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« Reply #21720 on: January 06, 2021, 02:21:40 PM »
MR2,  serious points.
All I have seen is social media posts about training in schools and similar actions.
No stats to measure progress or indeed no plan produced for Gaels to support.
N Antrim - not in Gaelfast remit IMO.
South Antrim may have got annoyed with this
Funding needs are critical and therefore more of a Croke Pk presence may be required

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« Reply #21721 on: January 06, 2021, 02:29:35 PM »

All I have seen is social media posts about training in schools and similar actions.  This was part of the plan
No stats to measure progress or indeed no plan produced for Gaels to support. I'm sure when Gaelfast was set up the plan was set out to those involved
N Antrim - not in Gaelfast remit IMO. North Antrim not involved, I'll give you that
South Antrim may have got annoyed with this. This is the same point as above, understandable but S/W committee not involved with Galefast anyways
Funding needs are critical and therefore more of a Croke Pk presence may be required. Croke Park are involved from day one and a line manager reviews this I assume

If you know different I'd be interested in hearing

So back to my point, What sort of goals were you looking to see improved over that period? Or better, what would be your approach to the funding
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« Reply #21722 on: January 06, 2021, 03:05:32 PM »
The future participation of funding at national level by Croke Pk is crucial to this project. In whos best interest is it exactly to have this discussion in an open forum, warts and all, where it has been deemed to fail, or otherwise. Antrim Gaels shouldnt be discussing this here. If there are problems in the mix, lets try to solve them, not openly draw attention for the whole country to see. Unless you have an alterior agenda that is.

Although I know Ive been as guilty as anyone in the past there is simply too much to lose by by having this chat on here. Pm one another if you really want to discuss, though might be an idea to find out exactly why Dr D left the position first.

Agreed, also be good if could deal in the facts and leave the hearsay elsewhere.

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« Reply #21723 on: January 06, 2021, 04:36:18 PM »

All I have seen is social media posts about training in schools and similar actions.  This was part of the plan
No stats to measure progress or indeed no plan produced for Gaels to support. I'm sure when Gaelfast was set up the plan was set out to those involved
N Antrim - not in Gaelfast remit IMO. North Antrim not involved, I'll give you that
South Antrim may have got annoyed with this. This is the same point as above, understandable but S/W committee not involved with Galefast anyways
Funding needs are critical and therefore more of a Croke Pk presence may be required. Croke Park are involved from day one and a line manager reviews this I assume

If you know different I'd be interested in hearing

So back to my point, What sort of goals were you looking to see improved over that period? Or better, what would be your approach to the funding
MR2,  you couldn't enjoy a pint with yourself.
Let's see the plan, measure the numbers  increase in members or participants and keep Croke involved and at the table to oversee and maintain funding
After Bannsides post I will let this matter drop as I've no hidden agenda. Like all Antrim Gaels just seeking the best for our county

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« Reply #21724 on: January 06, 2021, 04:38:29 PM »

All I have seen is social media posts about training in schools and similar actions.  This was part of the plan
No stats to measure progress or indeed no plan produced for Gaels to support. I'm sure when Gaelfast was set up the plan was set out to those involved
N Antrim - not in Gaelfast remit IMO. North Antrim not involved, I'll give you that
South Antrim may have got annoyed with this. This is the same point as above, understandable but S/W committee not involved with Galefast anyways
Funding needs are critical and therefore more of a Croke Pk presence may be required. Croke Park are involved from day one and a line manager reviews this I assume

If you know different I'd be interested in hearing

So back to my point, What sort of goals were you looking to see improved over that period? Or better, what would be your approach to the funding
MR2,  you couldn't enjoy a pint with yourself.
Let's see the plan, measure the numbers  increase in members or participants and keep Croke involved and at the table to oversee and maintain funding
After Bannsides post I will let this matter drop as I've no hidden agenda. Like all Antrim Gaels just seeking the best for our county

That's ok, I never brought the topic up, I was happy with the direction it was going
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

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« Reply #21725 on: January 06, 2021, 08:31:16 PM »
The future participation of funding at national level by Croke Pk is crucial to this project. In whos best interest is it exactly to have this discussion in an open forum, warts and all, where it has been deemed to fail, or otherwise. Antrim Gaels shouldnt be discussing this here. If there are problems in the mix, lets try to solve them, not openly draw attention for the whole country to see. Unless you have an alterior agenda that is.

Although I know Ive been as guilty as anyone in the past there is simply too much to lose by by having this chat on here. Pm one another if you really want to discuss, though might be an idea to find out exactly why Dr D left the position first.

Agreed, also be good if could deal in the facts and leave the hearsay elsewhere.
I think I'll ignore the gagging order bannside! this is a discussion baord and has its own moderator. So your thinking is lets stay quiet and hope Gaelfast gets sorted out by the people who have been running it for the last 2/3 years
Censorship is wrong and it is all committed Gaels on this board - lets' not blow Gaelfast opportunity because We are afraid to speak up

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« Reply #21726 on: January 06, 2021, 09:42:43 PM »
The future participation of funding at national level by Croke Pk is crucial to this project. In whos best interest is it exactly to have this discussion in an open forum, warts and all, where it has been deemed to fail, or otherwise. Antrim Gaels shouldnt be discussing this here. If there are problems in the mix, lets try to solve them, not openly draw attention for the whole country to see. Unless you have an alterior agenda that is.

Although I know Ive been as guilty as anyone in the past there is simply too much to lose by by having this chat on here. Pm one another if you really want to discuss, though might be an idea to find out exactly why Dr D left the position first.

Agreed, also be good if could deal in the facts and leave the hearsay elsewhere.
I think I'll ignore the gagging order bannside! this is a discussion baord and has its own moderator. So your thinking is lets stay quiet and hope Gaelfast gets sorted out by the people who have been running it for the last 2/3 years
Censorship is wrong and it is all committed Gaels on this board - lets' not blow Gaelfast opportunity because We are afraid to speak up

Couple questions then as you know more than me on this..

When did Gaelfast start itís recruitment for its coaches?

Out of the period thatís itís up and running, how long have they been furloughed?

Who do they report to quarterly in Belfast?
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

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« Reply #21727 on: January 06, 2021, 10:18:08 PM »
The future participation of funding at national level by Croke Pk is crucial to this project. In whos best interest is it exactly to have this discussion in an open forum, warts and all, where it has been deemed to fail, or otherwise. Antrim Gaels shouldnt be discussing this here. If there are problems in the mix, lets try to solve them, not openly draw attention for the whole country to see. Unless you have an alterior agenda that is.

Although I know Ive been as guilty as anyone in the past there is simply too much to lose by by having this chat on here. Pm one another if you really want to discuss, though might be an idea to find out exactly why Dr D left the position first.

Agreed, also be good if could deal in the facts and leave the hearsay elsewhere.
I think I'll ignore the gagging order bannside! this is a discussion baord and has its own moderator. So your thinking is lets stay quiet and hope Gaelfast gets sorted out by the people who have been running it for the last 2/3 years
Censorship is wrong and it is all committed Gaels on this board - lets' not blow Gaelfast opportunity because We are afraid to speak up

Couple questions then as you know more than me on this..

When did Gaelfast start itís recruitment for its coaches?

Out of the period thatís itís up and running, how long have they been furloughed?

Who do they report to quarterly in Belfast?
Gaelfast reports jointly to a management committee which is made up by antrim GAA and croke park I believe monthly
Recruited staff 2 and half years ago and not working for 6/7 months



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« Reply #21728 on: January 06, 2021, 10:31:29 PM »
Im not pro board or anti board on this Belfastgaaman and Ive no doubt you are as committed or as passionate about Antrim succeeding as all on here.

We all have valid grievances and run ins at different times with officialdom - manys a time I sat on top of that list of persona non grata - but all Im saying is that there cannot be any merit debating the matter in this particular forum at this time. What might be the obvious outcome if the mud starts to sling. How would you see this pan out? What are you really hoping to achieve?

If and when a suitable replacement for PD is found, what recomendations would you like to see implemented or done differently. How can a negative situation be turned into a positive one?

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« Reply #21729 on: January 06, 2021, 10:35:04 PM »
So I remember seeing something on recruitment back in April 19.. So if I get that right thatís about 10 months that the staff were fully implemented. Then furlough.

Whatís the plan? I havenít seen it. What does it consist of? Be interested in seeing the route youíd take

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« Reply #21730 on: January 07, 2021, 04:48:34 PM »
Ok here we go
target 10 Belfast pRimary schools who have little or no GAA
gets the coaches in to them and coach kids and teachers
link each of them up with a club
maKe all this public so clubs can row in behind
once primary teachers trained up a bit move half the coaches to 5 secondary schools with little or no GAA

I dnot have access to all the reports and Stats but that's the bones of it

Tear it To pieces boy and girls

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« Reply #21731 on: January 07, 2021, 05:48:12 PM »
Ok here we go
target 10 Belfast pRimary schools who have little or no GAA
gets the coaches in to them and coach kids and teachers
link each of them up with a club
maKe all this public so clubs can row in behind
once primary teachers trained up a bit move half the coaches to 5 secondary schools with little or no GAA

I dnot have access to all the reports and Stats but that's the bones of it

Tear it To pieces boy and girls

Clubs attached to local schools was established in Ciara Ferry's time as Games Dev Manager. A few issues arose- some clubs were unable to provide support on the ground to the school.

Some primary schools were located close to smaller club units, who were unable to manage ...bigger clubs came along and edged them out .
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« Reply #21732 on: January 07, 2021, 10:20:50 PM »
Start of league competitions pushed back due to cuurent Covid situation,  dates will be kept under review, with as much notice as possible to be given to start dates. No real surprise

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« Reply #21733 on: January 08, 2021, 05:33:04 PM »
Been struck down with Covid the past number of weeks, so playing catch up

Colleges football -
When we discuss Colleges football, the focus should not be on the MacRory or McLarnon cup per se, it's the GAA culture within the schools that is important. I went to St Pats Maghera. During the first three years, PE classes were non apologetically GAA based with a little bit of other sports thrown in. But in 4th year PE was now totally focused on other sports, fitness elements.

In first year we had the 1st year championship, all classes represented.  This was a big deal. Each class picked their own team. We had a group stage and then semi finals and final. During the semis and final the whole of 1st and 2nd year watched, close to 500. This was held at the end of the year just before the St Mary's 1st year blitz and helped the teachers pick the squad. The atmosphere during the finals was electric and it helped establish the school spirit, and to be honest, St Pats became my second club because of it.

The real value of this process was that close to 100 boys were coached all year long on the "St Pats Way", and this went on for close to 3 years. The 100 boys fed back into around 15-20 clubs in the SW Antrim, S Derry area. That raised playing standards in the county and was a major contributing factor in regards to the standard of minor football in Derry at that time.

From a schools point of view, Big A was the main man for  MacRory, but there was a team of coaches who were involved at the various grades and who all helped Big A in Mac Rory. Also the focus was on competing at younger grades and winning MacRory Cups

This system was repeated for Hurling and camogie.

The focus in Antrim should be on how many schools in Antrim have a true GAA culture. How many schools have a systemic 7 year coaching program within the school to produce good players ( not good enough to wait for a good group every 10 years)

Gaelfast - my understanding was that some in the SW  were unhappy at the Belfast focus on the proposal and that it should have been county wide like Dublin's (granted Dublin is majority city). Feedback from the county executive was that Gaelfast was to be Belfast focused but coaches will also support the regional divisions to help improve standards county wide

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« Reply #21734 on: January 09, 2021, 06:33:55 PM »
Who ever thought theY would miss mckenna cup ?