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« Reply #18075 on: June 23, 2019, 10:50:13 AM »
Deluded comments and yet fairly typical.  'Putting it up' means at least challenge.   We've employed bargain bucket managers for last few years and we've got what we've deserved.  Even with all our best players playing we cant overcome the tactics of the incompetent on the line and the lack of training discipline from so called stars.   

No one is suggesting antrim are a div 1 or even a div 2 team but we certainly should not be in the position we are now taking hidings.   Kildare wont be winning an all ireland anytime soon.

We've all the excuses we'll ever need for mediocrity amd we use every one of them  -  just go through the list: manager, squad, county ground, training facilities, coaches, underage structures, investment, the fans ourselves - all rubbish......we all need to have a look at ourselves.

Are we resigning ourselves to mediocrity?  If so then change nothing and we'll all be more content

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« Reply #18076 on: June 23, 2019, 12:18:43 PM »
You are the one making deluded comments about there being players in Antrim capable of “putting it up to Kildare”. There fcukin well isn’t. Nowhere near it.
We may be able to get a better manager but we are absolutely limited due to the lack of quality footballers we have.


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« Reply #18077 on: June 23, 2019, 01:14:22 PM »
One manager/coach/fitness coach would not have got our players to a level that could compete with a division one team. And this same coach would not have been able to get these players you talked about to commit to the regime required to reach that level. Mainly because they need to be training hard for at least 3 seasons to be conditioned to at least match teams physically before the football ability kicks in.

Now it’s achievable as you only have to look at Loughery yesterday for Cork, was one of the best players on the pitch, but he’s playing possibly higher grade of club football and a higher standard of county, a county that has more money to spend on things that will improve our basic standards
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« Reply #18078 on: June 23, 2019, 04:20:27 PM »
James Loughrey is one of the few Antrim players that had the fitness, conditioning & athleticism needed even when he was with Antrim

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« Reply #18079 on: June 23, 2019, 06:04:02 PM »
Perhaps Loughery is one of the few antrim footballers to do what is necessary is get the physique of a modern intercounty player.   All these spoofers and apologists on here denying whats right in front of them - there is NO excuse why antrim's footballers do not have the physique of a div 1 footballer. None whatsoever. Anyone saying different is someone used to taking the easy road through life.  Its feckin hard and takes sacrifices - thats why antrim arent at it.   Antrim dont appear (happy to be proved wrong) to have the talent / ability of a div 1 team but they should at least have the physicality.  Fecks sake there is enough information available to do it.   

Antrim's problem appears to be attitude, exacerbated by pisspoor  managers and 'quick fix' supporters and county admins. 

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« Reply #18080 on: June 23, 2019, 06:28:38 PM »
Perhaps Loughery is one of the few antrim footballers to do what is necessary is get the physique of a modern intercounty player.   All these spoofers and apologists on here denying whats right in front of them - there is NO excuse why antrim's footballers do not have the physique of a div 1 footballer. None whatsoever. Anyone saying different is someone used to taking the easy road through life.  Its feckin hard and takes sacrifices - thats why antrim arent at it.   Antrim dont appear (happy to be proved wrong) to have the talent / ability of a div 1 team but they should at least have the physicality.  Fecks sake there is enough information available to do it.   

Antrim's problem appears to be attitude, exacerbated by pisspoor  managers and 'quick fix' supporters and county admins.

So you agree it’s a players responsibility to achieve this level of fitness that Loughrey has got to, was personal thing by him I assume, as there was no ‘special’ coach’s doing that when he was at Antrim. It was his own, and by the way, just right to do so.

You do some spoofing, we are not at the level, nor is it down to people on the internet discussing it. If players have excuses not to play, you’ll just have to accept them. Changing the management may bring a new set up and players but I doubt they’d have the impact against a division one team unless they manage to play, at a minimum, div 2 football.

Antrim seniors need a successful juvenile conveyor belt of talent feeding through to a senior set up, were they have competed with the teams in Ulster and started their conditioning from an earlier age.
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« Reply #18081 on: June 23, 2019, 07:23:27 PM »
Of course its a players responsibilty allied to the manager and county board doing all they can to facilitate.    If u remember, i know the reason why players stay away - you never appeared to accept these MR2.   I never said antrim could compete at div 1, i said they should have no excuses for not having the physicality.  And lastly, antrim should not be gettings hidings from anyone, save dublin.  Honestly, its like debating with jamie bryson on the stephen nolan show here.  Try debating what you actually read and not what you think you read.  Actually agree with you on your last paragraph.

Bottom line, antrims attitudes need to change. Players and other stakeholders

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« Reply #18082 on: June 23, 2019, 07:44:50 PM »
You’re right. I can’t believe it has taken 40 years for someone to finally come up with the winning formula. “Antrim’s attitudes need to change.”

Pin it to the wall.


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« Reply #18083 on: June 23, 2019, 07:48:27 PM »
Fair play to Loughery. He's trained that hard to play in Div 3 NFL with his adopted county next year.

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« Reply #18084 on: June 23, 2019, 08:24:22 PM »
You’re right. I can’t believe it has taken 40 years for someone to finally come up with the winning formula. “Antrim’s attitudes need to change.”

Pin it to the wall.

Sometimes the obvious things are right in front of you  :)

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« Reply #18085 on: June 23, 2019, 10:15:58 PM »
So we send Lenny & management packing and we get on the phone to Malachy O’Rourke and bring a few back from Cargin and St Galls or we sit tight with current set up and hope they build on this season and bring back the pride?


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« Reply #18086 on: June 23, 2019, 10:21:36 PM »
So we send Lenny & management packing and we get on the phone to Malachy O’Rourke and bring a few back from Cargin and St Galls or we sit tight with current set up and hope they build on this season and bring back the pride?

Look we could spend thousands on a management team with all the extras but still perform the same way.

Well done to all involved on that panel your commitment can’t be faulted
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« Reply #18087 on: June 23, 2019, 10:24:08 PM »
Can’t see Malachy O’Rourke answering that phone call.


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« Reply #18088 on: June 24, 2019, 06:20:56 PM »
Perhaps Loughery is one of the few antrim footballers to do what is necessary is get the physique of a modern intercounty player.   All these spoofers and apologists on here denying whats right in front of them - there is NO excuse why antrim's footballers do not have the physique of a div 1 footballer. None whatsoever. Anyone saying different is someone used to taking the easy road through life.  Its feckin hard and takes sacrifices - thats why antrim arent at it.   Antrim dont appear (happy to be proved wrong) to have the talent / ability of a div 1 team but they should at least have the physicality.  Fecks sake there is enough information available to do it.   

Antrim's problem appears to be attitude, exacerbated by pisspoor  managers and 'quick fix' supporters and county admins.

Loughrey was a freak athlete by our standards prior to he even doing the weights and bulking up. His commitment was 2nd to none prior to be going to Cork to get married. He was our best player bar none...breaking the gain line, punching holes in the opposition backline and laying off to the scorers. Massive loss

We could do with a top manager to get the buy in from all players. Clare have got to Div 2. They stayed there for a year and have improved. If they can we can..we have to aim high and stop being negative. We got there 10 yrs ago, beat Meath but went down.
In our biggest games in the qualifiers around then we had our captain etc not play due to pre booked holidays. That didnt help us kicking on
We need serious buy in if we are to have any chance. We can do it
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« Reply #18089 on: June 29, 2019, 07:20:01 AM »
Was at Aghagallon v L Dhearg last night, I could go off on a rant and say this and that and feed the trolls and upset MR2 but all I will say is that PH who was allegedly suspended by his own committee on advice of CCC due to numerous complaints in the past, should not have been allowed back period!

His connections to the LD club via family and chair of refs committee from the club he should never have been appointed (spectators opinions not mine) throughout the game. That's the local clubs argument no doubt.

I really do hope this game is on video, players and managers reacted and that's their problem but if they look at the video and the refs performance in relation to decision making then I would say they would have to hold their hands up!  Refs have a duty of care like everyone and last night was an example to all in relation to complete ignorance of this and created such a volatile situation which could have turned really serious but for a few level headed people on both sides.

Pity big AMcC (eyes and ears top accessor) wasn't at this oh that's right he doesn't go to LD games he just reports on everyone else .