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Re: Antrim Football Thread
« Reply #17940 on: May 26, 2019, 04:28:59 PM »
Most of Carginís would be 30+ too.

What a load of balls. The team I saw play Creggan a fews ago had about 3. Mick Mc Cann, Tony Scullion for sure, after that Croizer maybe, is he 30 yet
Crozier & Tomas McCann. Kevin OíBoyle, Magill and Close.
Basically just their main men from the championship winning team.
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« Reply #17941 on: May 26, 2019, 04:32:31 PM »
I get what you are saying but, if Iím training for something Iíll get myself to a level that I want to compete at, you set goals and try and achieve them.

 I pay 30 odd quid a month for gym membership if I wanted to physically get to a standard Iíd have to put the effort in and work out. Some people go to the gym and fart about the ones that donít are on show yesterday, unfortunately being a gifted footballer wonít cut the mustard if you are easily beat in a a tackle or unable to win the race to a ball.

Having a fitness coach or dietician telling you what you already know you need to do is a cop out IMO of course

You know whats so funny about your last sentence is that your that ignorant or stupid you donít know your one or the other.
We were much improved on the shambles in Newry last year so management and players deserve some credit for that.  I canít get my head around the two tier system - Iíd fear we would disappear off the map altogether.  Still think playing like we did yesterday we would give quite a few teams across the country a game, itís not that long ago the same Tyrone team hammered Armagh in an All Ireland Quarterfinal. 


You do realise Tyrone took off their three main scoring men 5 minutes into the second half which meant we didnít get bt by 30 pts. There are about 4 teams at best we would beat. Our league performance is evidence if that this year and the last 5 ffs

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Re: Antrim Football Thread
« Reply #17942 on: May 26, 2019, 04:34:40 PM »
Most of Carginís would be 30+ too.

What a load of balls. The team I saw play Creggan a fews ago had about 3. Mick Mc Cann, Tony Scullion for sure, after that Croizer maybe, is he 30 yet
Crozier & Tomas McCann

Thats 4, hardly Ďmostí 30/31 yr olds badly needed, big experience

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Re: Antrim Football Thread
« Reply #17943 on: May 26, 2019, 04:36:15 PM »
Most of Carginís would be 30+ too.

What a load of balls. The team I saw play Creggan a fews ago had about 3. Mick Mc Cann, Tony Scullion for sure, after that Croizer maybe, is he 30 yet
Crozier & Tomas McCann

Thats 4, hardly Ďmostí 30/31 yr olds badly needed, big experience
Sorry, I updated. You tell me, what Cargin players under 30 would make a real difference to Antrim?
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« Reply #17944 on: May 26, 2019, 04:56:21 PM »
I get what you are saying but, if Iím training for something Iíll get myself to a level that I want to compete at, you set goals and try and achieve them.

 I pay 30 odd quid a month for gym membership if I wanted to physically get to a standard Iíd have to put the effort in and work out. Some people go to the gym and fart about the ones that donít are on show yesterday, unfortunately being a gifted footballer wonít cut the mustard if you are easily beat in a a tackle or unable to win the race to a ball.

Having a fitness coach or dietician telling you what you already know you need to do is a cop out IMO of course

You know whats so funny about your last sentence is that your that ignorant or stupid you donít know your one or the other.

Funny or arrogant? Getting fit and doing strength and conditioning is about being committed, no one said itís easy, if it was then weíd all be at it, but if youíre serious about being a county footballer ( any county ) youíll (or should) make yourself the best you can be. And in todayís environment thatís improving your body strength and that involves doing weights, it wonít take a season or two but you can with coaching from a PT get physically into shape.

Yesterdayís game, the first comment was men against boys and that was about the physical side of things, never mind the footballing terms.

Training for triathlons Iíd have been up at 6.30, hitting the pool for 60-80 lengths before work back after work for running, weights followed by a spin on the bike, that was when I was mid 40ís! These lads are young men with the chance to play in big games representing their county. I canít totally blame management for players not being physically fit, unless theyíve not done any training
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« Reply #17945 on: May 26, 2019, 06:15:57 PM »
Not often i agree with MR but hes spot on here. Bit of ownership needed for some 'wannabe' county players.  You need the physicality before even attempting to play county...it looked like men against boys yesterday.  Where were the coahes?  What have these do called county men been doing with their physiques as past few years???? Amatuers in a sport that isnt amateur any more
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« Reply #17946 on: May 26, 2019, 06:22:51 PM »
Most of Carginís would be 30+ too.

What a load of balls. The team I saw play Creggan a fews ago had about 3. Mick Mc Cann, Tony Scullion for sure, after that Croizer maybe, is he 30 yet
Crozier & Tomas McCann

Thats 4, hardly Ďmostí 30/31 yr olds badly needed, big experience
Sorry, I updated. You tell me, what Cargin players under 30 would make a real difference to Antrim?



John McNabb; Marty Kane Justin Crozier James Laverty
Paul McCann jamie gribben ciaran bradley john carron gerard mccann to name but a few .....  ffs thats not even mentioning the over 30s who are still the fittest men in the county!  Mick mccann has been the greatest player antrim has produced in a lifetime with fitness levels up with the best of them at 33 and hes sitting at home with the feet up.coz we're a shambles!
 
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Re: Antrim Football Thread
« Reply #17947 on: May 26, 2019, 06:39:42 PM »
How many of them have played county football in recent years? Were we any better? They are alright players but would they really be noticeably different to what lined out for us yesterday? I donít believe it for a second.

Iíd say Michael McCann will be 35 the next time we play an Ulster championship game. A good club player still alright but county football Iím not so sure.


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« Reply #17948 on: May 26, 2019, 07:00:00 PM »
So no matter what names we put forward arent good enough?    Convienent that.    Would they be better? Simple answer yes.  And thats just the cargin players


Mick mccann an alright club player??? How many club matches do you watch?? Obviously none.
Ffs hes the best player in the county  now and as past 15 years and still one of the fittest, still only 33. 

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« Reply #17949 on: May 26, 2019, 07:11:20 PM »
So no matter what names we put forward arent good enough?    Convienent that.    Would they be better? Simple answer yes.  And thats just the cargin players


Mick mccann an alright club player??? How many club matches do you watch?? Obviously none.
Ffs hes the best player in the county  now and as past 15 years and still one of the fittest, still only 33.
I said heís a good club player and if heís really 33 heíll be 34 in a months time. Yes he was one of our best over the last 15 years. I donít think he would have really made a difference yesterday.

As for the rest, they may slightly improve us but not noticeably. I mean lots of them have played for Antrim in the last 5 years. We were as bad on those occasions as we were yesterday so to be honest I donít think it would make one bit of a difference.


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« Reply #17950 on: May 26, 2019, 09:00:11 PM »
Nothing was as bad as yesterday

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Re: Antrim Football Thread
« Reply #17951 on: May 26, 2019, 09:15:59 PM »
Really? Hereís our other Ulster championship games in this last 5 years.
St Galls & Cargin players played in these.

2018 - A poor Down side beat us by 7. We were hopeless.
2017 - Donegal beat us by 16. We were hopeless.
2016 - Fermanagh beat us by 6. We were hopeless.
2015 - Fermanagh beat us by 8. We were hopeless.

Thatís a similar standard as yesterday for me. In fact, yesterday was better than some of that I reckon.


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« Reply #17952 on: May 26, 2019, 10:02:16 PM »
Dont you mean 'some' cargin and st galls.players played in those games?? 

We've hit rock bottom and are getting worse.  Players yesterday in the main arent county quality.   Management doeant appear to be county level.  Strength and conditioning doesnt appear to be county level. 

If ever the county board needed a wake up call to the dire state of our county panel then yesterday was it

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Re: Antrim Football Thread
« Reply #17953 on: May 26, 2019, 10:08:02 PM »
Dont you mean 'some' cargin and st galls.players played in those games?? 

We've hit rock bottom and are getting worse.  Players yesterday in the main arent county quality.   Management doeant appear to be county level.  Strength and conditioning doesnt appear to be county level. 

If ever the county board needed a wake up call to the dire state of our county panel then yesterday was it
Weíve been the whipping boys of Ulster football for 40 years. Weíve had worse days than yesterday. Many of them.
We donít have the players in the entire county to make us competitive with anyone in Ulster.


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« Reply #17954 on: May 26, 2019, 10:28:11 PM »
We scored 2-09 against a top tier competitive team. We could have scored more but didnít take some chances, Tyrone would hammer all div 4 teams.

My gripe is we should be at least looking to have our whole  squad up to a physical standard (there was a few meeting the standard) then the management can at least put their plan in place!

In general weíve always had players that were physically smaller than our opponents! Hurling also, we need to produce bigger players
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