Amanda Knox & Raffaele Sollecito freed on appeal in Kercher case

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Brick Tamlin

Was there some sort of sinister sexual cult carry-on to the whole thing or what?
Why is Knox being labelled as Foxy Knoxy.

deiseach

Quote from: Brick Tamlin on January 31, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Why is Knox being labelled as Foxy Knoxy.

Because a) she is and b) it rhymes. The whole affair has been a case for Media Studies 101.

tyrone girl

Quote from: deiseach on January 31, 2014, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on January 31, 2014, 11:10:45 AM
Why? I love reading and the case interested me. Damm all wrong with that.

That's cool. I would have thought they'd be a slog. It's an emotive subject and a lot of the content would be pure conjecture.

Didnt read them all together though to be fair. Was quite some time between each one i think. Im a bit morbid in that sense i am very interested in true crime type books.

tyrone girl

Quote from: Brick Tamlin on January 31, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Was there some sort of sinister sexual cult carry-on to the whole thing or what?
Why is Knox being labelled as Foxy Knoxy.

The police seemed to clasp onto both knox and the boyfriends behavior after the murder took place. Then people started coming out of the woodwork with stories about her.

nrico2006

Was there much evidence against her apart from her telling fibs with regard her story etc?  Was the knife they found proven to be the murder weapon?  Was Foxys DNA on it?  If so, how do argue thats proof of anything if she more than likely used that knife prior to the murder as she lived in the house.  What did Guede say happened?
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gallsman

Quote from: tyrone girl on January 31, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on January 31, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Was there some sort of sinister sexual cult carry-on to the whole thing or what?
Why is Knox being labelled as Foxy Knoxy.

The police seemed to clasp onto both knox and the boyfriends behavior after the murder took place. Then people started coming out of the woodwork with stories about her.

In your solictor's training, was there a course on how to draw conclusions based on media reporting and books written by the key stakeholder in a particular case?

tyrone girl

It sounds stupid me saying that i actually cant remember the ins and out after following it so much but i think her dna was found on a certain knife in the boyfriends house which also had merediths dna on it but could be completely wrong in that as there was something about a knife being inadmissable as evidence in the retrial.

There was stuff about the phones etc both being off from exact times of murder, the fact she implicated her boss and said it was him and she found him in the house after committing the murder. Then the phone records apparently showed that they didnt phone the police when they say they did etc.  Small things about the window being apparently broken from the inside and it only made to look like a robbery. Apparently then merediths friends said whilst they were all waiting to be questioned she was talking about the way the body was lying on the floor etc when she hadnt actually seen it. All of course seemingly circumstancial evidence but there was also dna involved somewhere. Im annoyed now that i cant remember things about it. Really want to read again.

Guede im thinking now didnt implicate them at the time but down the line added them into his story.

Im confusing myself now   :-\

Main Street

Quote from: nrico2006 on January 31, 2014, 11:30:05 AM
Was there much evidence against her apart from her telling fibs with regard her story etc?  Was the knife they found proven to be the murder weapon?  Was Foxys DNA on it?  If so, how do argue thats proof of anything if she more than likely used that knife prior to the murder as she lived in the house.  What did Guede say happened?
Actual hard core evidence? this is Italy, the prosecutor just has to make the circumstance fit the crime no matter how farcical the story is and it's regarded as proof enough if it makes compelling fantasy soap drama.

tyrone girl

Quote from: gallsman on January 31, 2014, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on January 31, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on January 31, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Was there some sort of sinister sexual cult carry-on to the whole thing or what?
Why is Knox being labelled as Foxy Knoxy.

The police seemed to clasp onto both knox and the boyfriends behavior after the murder took place. Then people started coming out of the woodwork with stories about her.



In your solictor's training, was there a course on how to draw conclusions based on media reporting and books written by the key stakeholder in a particular case?

When i have Solicitors training then i will come back and try and answer that question for you. Im allowed to draw whatever conclusions i like. Thats life. We all draw conclusions and they wont make a damm bit of difference to the outcome of her case. Im allowed an opinion . On how i base that opinion isnt your business.

seafoid

Quote from: tyrone girl on January 31, 2014, 11:52:03 AM
Quote from: gallsman on January 31, 2014, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on January 31, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on January 31, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Was there some sort of sinister sexual cult carry-on to the whole thing or what?
Why is Knox being labelled as Foxy Knoxy.

The police seemed to clasp onto both knox and the boyfriends behavior after the murder took place. Then people started coming out of the woodwork with stories about her.



In your solictor's training, was there a course on how to draw conclusions based on media reporting and books written by the key stakeholder in a particular case?

When i have Solicitors training then i will come back and try and answer that question for you. Im allowed to draw whatever conclusions i like. Thats life. We all draw conclusions and they wont make a damm bit of difference to the outcome of her case. Im allowed an opinion . On how i base that opinion isnt your business.
Of course you are but how do you back it up?
Because she looks shifty ?

southdown

Quote from: deiseach on January 31, 2014, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on January 31, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Why is Knox being labelled as Foxy Knoxy.

Because a) she is and b) it rhymes. The whole affair has been a case for Media Studies 101.

Foxy Knoxy is a self tile, her Myspace page name was Foxy Knoxy.

tyrone girl

If you read my posts i read books on it from all sides of the coin and my feeling was she was guilty as sin. If you also read my posts i have stated that i do not recall all the ins and outs of the case as quite some time has passed since i read them. At the time however from what i read feel she was guilty. I havnt read anything since that leads my opinion to change. I have no idea what really happened exactly but im still capable of forming my own opinion based on whatever i like.

deiseach

Quote from: southdown on January 31, 2014, 12:22:13 PM
Foxy Knoxy is a self tile, her Myspace page name was Foxy Knoxy.

A happy coincidence. The media would have used the term in any case. Of course, if someone can find evidence that Catherine Nevin called herself the Black Widow on her Myspace page. . . ;)

gallsman

Quote from: tyrone girl on January 31, 2014, 11:52:03 AM
When i have Solicitors training then i will come back and try and answer that question for you.

Apologies, bit of a fuzzy memory. You do or did work in the legal profession though, yes? Then you'd be familiar with the concept of proving someone's guilt I expect. In order to do this, the judicial systems in most first world countries rely on things like, oh I don't know, evidence or something. Not opinion based on hearsay.

Unfortunately in this case, like many other first world judicial systems, Italy's can be an absolute joke.

trueblue1234

Quote from: gallsman on January 31, 2014, 01:20:18 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on January 31, 2014, 11:52:03 AM
When i have Solicitors training then i will come back and try and answer that question for you.

Apologies, bit of a fuzzy memory. You do or did work in the legal profession though, yes? Then you'd be familiar with the concept of proving someone's guilt I expect. In order to do this, the judicial systems in most first world countries rely on things like, oh I don't know, evidence or something. Not opinion based on hearsay.

Unfortunately in this case, like many other first world judicial systems, Italy's can be an absolute joke.

Jeez she's just given her opinion. I'm sure she's not expecting the Italian judicial system to base their decision on the opinion of someone on the internet.
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