Connacht Senior club championship 2011

[NetNitrate]

That ref is surely owed a lot of apologies. How many experts like Martin Brehony swore it was a legitimate goal. It wasn't and for at least 3 good reasons.

[Croí na hÉireann]

there it is, square ball
and he fouled the defender after
goal rightly disallowed

I don't think it was a square ball, follow the "gaze" of the 3 players in the square and the ball already seems to be well inside the square. Given the direction the ball came from and the fact the Corofin player ran full tilt into the square I would safely say it wasn't a square ball. Hand on the shoulder is another matter.

[dublin7]

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

[Buckass]

Replays on tg4 show it was a perfectly good goal. Watching it with a Corkonian and 2 Westmeath heads and all of us thought TG4 pics showed it was good goal. What was keeper @? No square ball and contact with ball before he landed on full back

[Syferus]

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

The venue was perfect for this level of match and it's the second county ground, which is why it was an option in the first place. More club finals should be played at smaller venues as the atmosphere is far better than sticking 4-5,000 into stadia built for 30,000+.

[GalwayBayBoy]

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

The venue was perfect for this level of match and it's the second county ground, which is why it was an option in the first place. More club finals should be played at smaller venues as the atmosphere is far better than sticking 4-5,000 into stadia built for 30,000+.

I think the argument is a club final shouldn't be held on the home ground of one of the competing clubs and it shouldn't IMO. No matter who is in the final. No shortage of suitable grounds out there these days. I know Brigid's are hardly the first in this regard as Ballina for example have had provincial finals on their ground with them playing in it.

In fairness this is a seperate argument to the performance of the ref.

[ross4life]

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

The venue was perfect for this level of match and it's the second county ground, which is why it was an option in the first place. More club finals should be played at smaller venues as the atmosphere is far better than sticking 4-5,000 into stadia built for 30,000+.

I think the argument is a club final shouldn't be held on the home ground of one of the competing clubs and it shouldn't IMO. No matter who is in the final. No shortage of suitable grounds out there these days. I know Brigid's are hardly the first in this regard as Ballina for example have had provincial finals on their ground with them playing in it.

In fairness this is a seperate argument to the performance of the ref.

Really? would the venue issue be raised if St. Brigid's won without talking points or indeed if Corofin won. As Syferus said it's a fine pitch ideal for Club finals & a poor ref performance shouldn't stop games from  been played there in the future.

[seafoid]

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

The venue was perfect for this level of match and it's the second county ground, which is why it was an option in the first place. More club finals should be played at smaller venues as the atmosphere is far better than sticking 4-5,000 into stadia built for 30,000+.

I think the argument is a club final shouldn't be held on the home ground of one of the competing clubs and it shouldn't IMO. No matter who is in the final. No shortage of suitable grounds out there these days. I know Brigid's are hardly the first in this regard as Ballina for example have had provincial finals on their ground with them playing in it.

In fairness this is a seperate argument to the performance of the ref.

Really? would the venue issue be raised if St. Brigid's won without talking points or indeed if Corofin won. As Syferus said it's a fine pitch ideal for Club finals & a poor ref performance shouldn't stop games from  been played there in the future.

it is no use beating Corofin if St Brigids don't win the all-Ireland. 

[GalwayBayBoy]

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

The venue was perfect for this level of match and it's the second county ground, which is why it was an option in the first place. More club finals should be played at smaller venues as the atmosphere is far better than sticking 4-5,000 into stadia built for 30,000+.

I think the argument is a club final shouldn't be held on the home ground of one of the competing clubs and it shouldn't IMO. No matter who is in the final. No shortage of suitable grounds out there these days. I know Brigid's are hardly the first in this regard as Ballina for example have had provincial finals on their ground with them playing in it.

In fairness this is a seperate argument to the performance of the ref.

Really? would the venue issue be raised if St. Brigid's won without talking points or indeed if Corofin won.

Eh yes considering I raised the point on here well before the match took place.

Argument is not about the suitability of Kiltoom as a venue. I'm sure it's a fine facility. Just that club finals should not be played on the home ground of one of the competing clubs. I don't think this is a difficult concept to grasp myself.

[Tubberman]

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

The venue was perfect for this level of match and it's the second county ground, which is why it was an option in the first place. More club finals should be played at smaller venues as the atmosphere is far better than sticking 4-5,000 into stadia built for 30,000+.

I think the argument is a club final shouldn't be held on the home ground of one of the competing clubs and it shouldn't IMO. No matter who is in the final. No shortage of suitable grounds out there these days. I know Brigid's are hardly the first in this regard as Ballina for example have had provincial finals on their ground with them playing in it.

In fairness this is a seperate argument to the performance of the ref.

Really? would the venue issue be raised if St. Brigid's won without talking points or indeed if Corofin won. As Syferus said it's a fine pitch ideal for Club finals & a poor ref performance shouldn't stop games from  been played there in the future.

it is no use beating Corofin if St Brigids don't win the all-Ireland.

No point in most teams togging out at all so....

[ross4life]

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

The venue was perfect for this level of match and it's the second county ground, which is why it was an option in the first place. More club finals should be played at smaller venues as the atmosphere is far better than sticking 4-5,000 into stadia built for 30,000+.

I think the argument is a club final shouldn't be held on the home ground of one of the competing clubs and it shouldn't IMO. No matter who is in the final. No shortage of suitable grounds out there these days. I know Brigid's are hardly the first in this regard as Ballina for example have had provincial finals on their ground with them playing in it.

In fairness this is a seperate argument to the performance of the ref.

Really? would the venue issue be raised if St. Brigid's won without talking points or indeed if Corofin won.

Eh yes considering I raised the point on here well before the match took place.

Argument is not about the suitability of Kiltoom as a venue. I'm sure it's a fine facility. Just that club finals should not be played on the home ground of one of the competing clubs. I don't think this is a difficult concept to grasp myself.

In fairness you raised the point before the match because it was news to you that a competing team was at home in a club Connacht final before.

I hear your argument but i for one have no problem with teams having home advantage & must remember St.Brigid's have been on both sides of the coin now.

[Lone Shark]

As for the referee - yes he was brutal. But, did he cause Corofin to lose the game? No

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone on this board not from Roscommon who shares this view? I fully accept that Devanney just had a poor day, it wasn't bias, and I'd have no problem with the location of the game - but surely to God it's easy to see that he changed the result of this game with a long sequence of decisions in favour of Brigids?

[neilthemac]

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

The venue was perfect for this level of match and it's the second county ground, which is why it was an option in the first place. More club finals should be played at smaller venues as the atmosphere is far better than sticking 4-5,000 into stadia built for 30,000+.

I think the argument is a club final shouldn't be held on the home ground of one of the competing clubs and it shouldn't IMO. No matter who is in the final. No shortage of suitable grounds out there these days. I know Brigid's are hardly the first in this regard as Ballina for example have had provincial finals on their ground with them playing in it.

In fairness this is a seperate argument to the performance of the ref.

Really? would the venue issue be raised if St. Brigid's won without talking points or indeed if Corofin won.

Eh yes considering I raised the point on here well before the match took place.

Argument is not about the suitability of Kiltoom as a venue. I'm sure it's a fine facility. Just that club finals should not be played on the home ground of one of the competing clubs. I don't think this is a difficult concept to grasp myself.

What about Tuam?
Corofin had no problem playing Tuam Stars there!

[GalwayBayBoy]

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

The venue was perfect for this level of match and it's the second county ground, which is why it was an option in the first place. More club finals should be played at smaller venues as the atmosphere is far better than sticking 4-5,000 into stadia built for 30,000+.

I think the argument is a club final shouldn't be held on the home ground of one of the competing clubs and it shouldn't IMO. No matter who is in the final. No shortage of suitable grounds out there these days. I know Brigid's are hardly the first in this regard as Ballina for example have had provincial finals on their ground with them playing in it.

In fairness this is a seperate argument to the performance of the ref.

Really? would the venue issue be raised if St. Brigid's won without talking points or indeed if Corofin won.

Eh yes considering I raised the point on here well before the match took place.

Argument is not about the suitability of Kiltoom as a venue. I'm sure it's a fine facility. Just that club finals should not be played on the home ground of one of the competing clubs. I don't think this is a difficult concept to grasp myself.

What about Tuam?
Corofin had no problem playing Tuam Stars there!

In fairness a county final was only ever going to be in either Salthill or Tuam. It would have no made no sense at all to drag two teams and their fans from the greater Tuam area into Salthill.

[spuds]

As for the referee - yes he was brutal. But, did he cause Corofin to lose the game? No

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone on this board not from Roscommon who shares this view? I fully accept that Devanney just had a poor day, it wasn't bias, and I'd have no problem with the location of the game - but surely to God it's easy to see that he changed the result of this game with a long sequence of decisions in favour of Brigids?

Anyone who can call that a square ball from that angle must have some  depth perception skills. Maybe a free out, but that isn't what the ref gave.

The ref was out of his depth & had a shocker. You would have to question how these guys are appointed with so little experience.

Should never have played the game in brigid's ground either. Totally unsuitable for the game. Neutral venues for provincial finals should be a given.

The venue was perfect for this level of match and it's the second county ground, which is why it was an option in the first place. More club finals should be played at smaller venues as the atmosphere is far better than sticking 4-5,000 into stadia built for 30,000+.

I think the argument is a club final shouldn't be held on the home ground of one of the competing clubs and it shouldn't IMO. No matter who is in the final. No shortage of suitable grounds out there these days. I know Brigid's are hardly the first in this regard as Ballina for example have had provincial finals on their ground with them playing in it.

In fairness this is a seperate argument to the performance of the ref.

Really? would the venue issue be raised if St. Brigid's won without talking points or indeed if Corofin won.

Eh yes considering I raised the point on here well before the match took place.

Argument is not about the suitability of Kiltoom as a venue. I'm sure it's a fine facility. Just that club finals should not be played on the home ground of one of the competing clubs. I don't think this is a difficult concept to grasp myself.

What about Tuam?
Corofin had no problem playing Tuam Stars there!

Funny how the Rossie posters are only willing to take umbrage with the Galway poster and not with the majority of neutrals that saw the referee as having a huge influence on the result. 2 good teams and the potential for a more memorable match ruined. Not Brigids fault and best of luck to them, hope they can go a step further than last year.