Jarlath Burns

Started by ziggysego, August 13, 2011, 03:08:08 PM

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Tubberman

Quote from: Solo_run on January 19, 2025, 12:57:14 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 18, 2025, 06:44:51 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on January 18, 2025, 06:22:14 PMHaven't been following this at all. Did Jarlath intervene or did he write a letter to Naas expressing concern?

Email

Did the email raise concerns about Naas taking on RG or did Burns say do not go ahead with the appointment?

There's loads of media coverage of it you can read. He expressed his concerns but said they (Naas) had autonomy to make their own decisions.
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Quote from: Tubberman on January 19, 2025, 09:06:05 AM
Quote from: Solo_run on January 19, 2025, 12:57:14 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 18, 2025, 06:44:51 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on January 18, 2025, 06:22:14 PMHaven't been following this at all. Did Jarlath intervene or did he write a letter to Naas expressing concern?

Email

Did the email raise concerns about Naas taking on RG or did Burns say do not go ahead with the appointment?

There's loads of media coverage of it you can read. He expressed his concerns but said they (Naas) had autonomy to make their own decisions.
Which Kielty called him out on.

trueblue1234

I still don't understand Naas bringing this clusterfuck down on themselves. They would have 100% known there would be huge issues and distractions as a result, even from within the club. Surely that was going to outweigh the potential benefits.
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tiempo

Naas are looking to go further in Leinster having pushed Cuala this year

Like Jim McGuinness wanted Sam
Post Jim Donegal board wanted Sam
Fermanagh wanted Ulster
Derry wanted Sam
Corduff want Ulster

Gallagher must be an excellent coach therefore they sought his expertise, note, he isn't barred from coaching or managing having been through the GAA safeguarding processes

Naas aren't the issue

It was Jarlath who brought the media strom to the door of a mother father and 3 children, highly irresponsible

trueblue1234

Quote from: tiempo on January 19, 2025, 10:00:51 AMNaas are looking to go further in Leinster having pushed Cuala this year

Like Jim McGuinness wanted Sam
Post Jim Donegal board wanted Sam
Fermanagh wanted Ulster
Derry wanted Sam
Corduff want Ulster

Gallagher must be an excellent coach therefore they sought his expertise, note, he isn't barred from coaching or managing having been through the GAA safeguarding processes

Naas aren't the issue

It was Jarlath who brought the media strom to the door of a mother father and 3 children, highly irresponsible
I agree that JB shouldn't have got involved. But completely disagree on whether Naas should have sought out RG given the complete circus that was going to follow. Even from within their own club. Naas 100% were part of the issue.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

imtommygunn

Exactly this.jb shouldn't have got involved but not many clubs would have a happy membership bringing a boy like this in.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 19, 2025, 10:24:03 AM
Quote from: tiempo on January 19, 2025, 10:00:51 AMNaas are looking to go further in Leinster having pushed Cuala this year

Like Jim McGuinness wanted Sam
Post Jim Donegal board wanted Sam
Fermanagh wanted Ulster
Derry wanted Sam
Corduff want Ulster

Gallagher must be an excellent coach therefore they sought his expertise, note, he isn't barred from coaching or managing having been through the GAA safeguarding processes

Naas aren't the issue

It was Jarlath who brought the media strom to the door of a mother father and 3 children, highly irresponsible
I agree that JB shouldn't have got involved. But completely disagree on whether Naas should have sought out RG given the complete circus that was going to follow. Even from within their own club. Naas 100% were part of the issue.
+1

All the teams that he took before this all kicked off don't want him now so are hardly relevant.
That leaves Corduff & Naas (before Burns' intervention).

Wildweasel74

There a few posters on here backing J Burns here no matter the contradiction.

David McKeown

Quote from: tiempo on January 19, 2025, 10:00:51 AMNaas are looking to go further in Leinster having pushed Cuala this year

Like Jim McGuinness wanted Sam
Post Jim Donegal board wanted Sam
Fermanagh wanted Ulster
Derry wanted Sam
Corduff want Ulster

Gallagher must be an excellent coach therefore they sought his expertise, note, he isn't barred from coaching or managing having been through the GAA safeguarding processes

Naas aren't the issue

It was Jarlath who brought the media strom to the door of a mother father and 3 children, highly irresponsible

Was the problem not he was disbarred but that the safeguarding process couldn't disbar anyone in relation to adults because their powers were in conflict with the official guide?
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Snapchap

Quote from: tiempo on January 19, 2025, 10:00:51 AMNaas are looking to go further in Leinster having pushed Cuala this year

Like Jim McGuinness wanted Sam
Post Jim Donegal board wanted Sam
Fermanagh wanted Ulster
Derry wanted Sam
Corduff want Ulster

Gallagher must be an excellent coach therefore they sought his expertise, note, he isn't barred from coaching or managing having been through the GAA safeguarding processes

Naas aren't the issue

It was Jarlath who brought the media strom to the door of a mother father and 3 children, highly irresponsible

Just because he wasn't barred doesn't mean Naas wouldn't have known that his appointment would have had the potential for major outside controversy and internal conflict, regardless of Jarlath Burns.

Armamike

Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 19, 2025, 09:50:25 AMI still don't understand Naas bringing this clusterfuck down on themselves. They would have 100% known there would be huge issues and distractions as a result, even from within the club. Surely that was going to outweigh the potential benefits.

Exactly.  Never mind the circus it would bring, what about the major risk of losing half your club over this.  There are other good coaches out there.
That's just, like your opinion man.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Armamike on January 19, 2025, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 19, 2025, 09:50:25 AMI still don't understand Naas bringing this clusterfuck down on themselves. They would have 100% known there would be huge issues and distractions as a result, even from within the club. Surely that was going to outweigh the potential benefits.

Exactly.  Never mind the circus it would bring, what about the major risk of losing half your club over this.  There are other good coaches out there.

But does that make it the correct call? Herd mentality. Look, all of it could be true, some of it or none of it, but don't pick and choose, as there will be plenty of emails or calls to plenty of clubs
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

tiempo

Quote from: David McKeown on January 19, 2025, 11:21:29 AM
Quote from: tiempo on January 19, 2025, 10:00:51 AMNaas are looking to go further in Leinster having pushed Cuala this year

Like Jim McGuinness wanted Sam
Post Jim Donegal board wanted Sam
Fermanagh wanted Ulster
Derry wanted Sam
Corduff want Ulster

Gallagher must be an excellent coach therefore they sought his expertise, note, he isn't barred from coaching or managing having been through the GAA safeguarding processes

Naas aren't the issue

It was Jarlath who brought the media strom to the door of a mother father and 3 children, highly irresponsible

Was the problem not he was disbarred but that the safeguarding process couldn't disbar anyone in relation to adults because their powers were in conflict with the official guide?

If the GAA has flawed procedures he should act for change in that regard and not move the goalposts with an intervention designed to persecute one individual with their family as collateral

He's used the Gallagher family as a political football to kick start his Game Changer initiative

tiempo

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2025, 10:39:44 AMAll the teams that he took before this all kicked off don't want him now so are hardly relevant.
That leaves Corduff & Naas (before Burns' intervention).

He's a "career coach", we don't know who would/wouldn't have him back

I keep hearing the issues were well known, it makes a mockery of Jim McGuinness claims of a duty of care to his players

Or maybe RG presented no risk to Donegal players, which begs the question, what risk did he pose to Naas players?

I'm sure there's boys with a few issues looking after LGFA teams, but they're tolerated in the pursuit of wins

The GAA might want to create something like role based charters/procedures and have everyone sign up depending on what role(s) they occupy, Presidental witch hunts can't be allowed to continue

Wildweasel74

The craic with Aaron Gillan disappeared after Christmas 2023, so in general Linerick seem to have a off field discipline issue.