is there a war coming?

[southdown]

It's looking likely that an attack could take place very soon.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/magazine/will-israel-attack-iran.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all

Obama's stance should be very interesting.

[Denn Forever]

Is this why this has hapened?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9090465/Iran-claims-its-navy-enters-Mediterranean-as-tensions-with-Israel-grow.html

Iran claims its navy enters Mediterranean as tensions with Israel grow
Iran's navy claimed its warships entered the Mediterranean on Saturday to show its 'might' to regional countries, as a high-level American official was due to arrive in Israel.

[mannix]

The problem with attacking Iran is they actually can fight back. And they have the heavyweights backing them, as long as the yanks know that, there will be no attacking Iran. Guaranteed.

[southdown]

I think that Israel will defintely attack, the interesting sceanrio will be what the US does when this happens.

[mannix]

Israel could be on their own if they decide to attack. The USA will not get involved, the American people are getting tired of the constant wars and "nation building" while their own country is falling apart. The 16 trillion dollar national debt does not help neither.

[CiKe]

Israel could be on their own if they decide to attack. The USA will not get involved, the American people are getting tired of the constant wars and "nation building" while their own country is falling apart. The 16 trillion dollar national debt does not help neither.

It's debatable whether a presidential candidate could be elected in US if Israel does attack and he doesn't profess support. Opposing the war in Irag is one thing, "abandoning" Israel would be another thing altogether - the lobbyists would be out en masse.

[theskull1]

Between the lobbyists and the media, Israel is in full control of what the US decides to do in these circumstances

[southdown]

Obama cannot afford to piss off the Jewish voters.  However, even if he does not support an Israeli strike the Arab world will still believe that the US was in some way involved, Obama is cannot really come out of this looking good either way.

[johnneycool]

Obama cannot afford to piss off the Jewish voters.  However, even if he does not support an Israeli strike the Arab world will still believe that the US was in some way involved, Obama is cannot really come out of this looking good either way.

The Jewish vote isn't the problem ,its the amount of influence they have in the media which is all important to any American President.

Sure look at the amount of fawning, Blair, Brown and Cameron did with Murdock and the Sun in the UK and the American system is even worse.

The Israelies will stick with their surgical strike policy for the time being.

[southdown]

It no longer seems to be a question of IF Israel will attack, it's now about how/when they will attack.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17115643

[seafoid]

I think an Israeli attack would be the height of stupidity. Very low risk of success , totally illegal under international law and sets a great precedent for future unjustified attacks on Israel. Only one of which needs to work.   

[seafoid]

Just now, Israel and most American Jewish organizations are loudly beating the drums of war.

Read more: http://www.forward.com/articles/151984/#ixzz1nbWBaJei

[thejuice]

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/wikileaks-release-stratfor-emails-isr

As news organizations are sifting through the five million emails released by Wikileaks today, they're posting their findings. (See the interview above with Julian Assange about the spying on Bhopal activists.) Oddly enough, the major news organizations (the same ones pounding the drums for an attack on Iran) are quiet about this interesting tidbit from Stratfor, the intelligence company:

Growing concerns over Iran's nuclear facilities may prove to be all for naught. Officials from the global intelligence company Stratfor allegedly discussed that Israel may have already destroyed the Iranian nuclear facility, according to one of the emails released by Wikileaks Monday.

In one of the over five million emails leaked, the conversation centered on Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak praising the news of deadly munitions blasts at a base of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards.

"I think this is a diversion. The Israelis already destroyed all the Iranian nuclear infrastructure on the ground weeks ago," one intelligence official wrote in an email dated November 14, 2011. "The current 'let's bomb Iran' campaign was ordered by the EU leaders to divert the public attention from their at home financial problems. It plays also well for the US since Pakistan, Russia and N. Korea are mentioned in the report. "

One other Stratfor official allegedly indicated a similar finding.

"Israeli commandos in collaboration with Kurd forces destroyed few underground facilities mainly used for the Iranian defense and nuclear research projects," he wrote on November 13, 2011. "Even if the Israelis have the capabilities and are ready to attack by air, sea and land, there is no need to attack the nuclear program at this point after the commandos destroyed a significant part of it."

[southdown]

Very interesting comments above.  Is it possible then that attacks may already have taken place?  If so, why has this not been made public?  Seems hard to believe but at the same time i wouldn't be suprised.

I cannot see how this is going to resolve itself in a satisfactory way as I cannot see the Israeli's waiting for the sanctions to kick in.  They keep referring to this "zone of immunity" and stress that time is very much against them.

[mannix]

iran will get their way, whos going to stop them? economic sanctions are not starving the fellas in power in iran.