Joe said that cooper was a good player but maybe did not show leadership at times it was need? give or take thats what he said. I presume thats as he sees it as a pundit. Is he not entitled to the view? I would have thought myself that in recent years for both Crokes and Kerry that was the case. But if reviewing Gooch's overall contribution to gaelic football I'd say he was at times sublime and one of the best forwards to grace the game. It's all a matter of opinion, innit.