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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2820 on: December 11, 2016, 06:32:09 PM »
Thats fair enough. Fair comment. But i lived the troubles like everyone else. I was appalled by brollys one sided, selective memory, ira rhetoric.  Well done Tommy, for pointing out what a bitter twisted little man joe is.

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2821 on: December 11, 2016, 06:37:42 PM »
His comments about Kevin Lynch were disgusting.

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« Reply #2822 on: December 11, 2016, 06:44:57 PM »
Great article that by tommy conlon. Fair play tommy.
Not everyone is the six counties thinks like joe. Id back jarlath burns over joe every feckin day of the week.

Not everyone in the six counties thinks like Jarlath either.

Not everyone in the six counties thinks.  Too many are just sheep following the so called traditional route.

And some do think, they weigh it up and they feel the "traditional route" is the one which has some principle on its side.

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2823 on: December 11, 2016, 06:59:23 PM »
Great article that by tommy conlon. Fair play tommy.
Not everyone is the six counties thinks like joe. Id back jarlath burns over joe every feckin day of the week.

Not everyone in the six counties thinks like Jarlath either.

Not everyone in the six counties thinks.  Too many are just sheep following the so called traditional route.

And some do think, they weigh it up and they feel the "traditional route" is the one which has some principle on its side.

And what a country and legacy they and their 'principle' have left for us and our children.

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2824 on: December 11, 2016, 07:01:21 PM »
Great article that by tommy conlon. Fair play tommy.
Not everyone is the six counties thinks like joe. Id back jarlath burns over joe every feckin day of the week.

Not everyone in the six counties thinks like Jarlath either.

Not everyone in the six counties thinks.  Too many are just sheep following the so called traditional route.

And some do think, they weigh it up and they feel the "traditional route" is the one which has some principle on its side.

And what a country and legacy they and their 'principle' have left for us and our children.

Maybe because most of their country abandoned their principles after they got their own bit of freedom.........


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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2826 on: December 11, 2016, 07:06:56 PM »
Sweet Jesus, that Conlon article is unbelievable given the fact that he is attacking a journalist who writes in the same paper. This will no doubt get interesting, you would nearly think the Indo had set up Conlon to create a journalistic war between the two as I doubt very much if we've heard the end of this now.

What county is Conlon from?


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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2828 on: December 11, 2016, 07:31:49 PM »
His comments about Kevin Lynch were disgusting.

I think elements of the following paragraph are a bit unnecessarily inflammatory alright. More like something Ian O'Doherty would write replete with wee dig at the hunger strikers.

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Kevin Lynch played underage hurling for Dungiven before he moved on to greater things. He decided to do a bit of killing for Ireland and, after that, a bit of dying for Ireland. He didn't join the IRA, on the grounds presumably that they were a bit slack in the depravity department. Instead he joined the INLA, which happily had an even more bestial disposition. Lynch died by suicide in 1981. He hadn't eaten any grub in Long Kesh for a few months.

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« Reply #2829 on: December 11, 2016, 07:48:12 PM »
That will go down well with the Independent bosses and demographic alright.
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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2830 on: December 11, 2016, 08:05:36 PM »
This is some story, how much of it is true?

...This author recalls a chilling encounter with three top INLA members from what was known in 1987 as the 'GHQ faction' of the movement.

The trio had survived the 1987 feud, which had been prompted, in part, by the kidnapping, torture, murder and secret burial of Seamus Ruddy in Paris as the GHQ group tried to seize control of INLA's gun-running operations from Europe.

They fought a bitter power-struggle with their rivals in the so-called 'Army Council' faction, which was later to morph into the IPLO. The survivors from the GHQ group who kept on the INLA name included Hugh 'Cueball' Torney, Gino Gallagher and John Fennell – the trio who met this author in the spring of 1994.

They wanted to tell their side of the organisation's history. They feared that many of Jack Holland and this writer's sources came from the opposing faction.

Yet within a couple of years all three men were dead – slain not by their hated Ulster loyalist enemies, or the British state, but rather by each other

Torney had Gallagher shot dead in a Falls Road dole office fearing he was about to be deposed as INLA leader for unilaterally calling a ceasefire from a Dublin courthouse after being caught with weapons in the Republic. The faction that supported Gallagher's attempted putsch then carried out one of the most gruesome killings of the 1990s.

They tracked John Fennell down to a caravan park in Bundoran and battered him to death using breeze-blocks.

Finally, Torney himself was cornered in Lurgan and shot dead just days after his second-in-command, Dessie McCleary had been gunned down in front of young children enjoying a post-Holy Communion meal inside a Belfast pizza parlour.

In between these fratricidal slayings, the anti-Torney group managed to shoot dead nine-year-old Barbara McAlorum in a gun attack on her Belfast home...
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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2831 on: December 11, 2016, 08:38:06 PM »
The author is a respected journalist rather than a columnist for a Sunday paper though his background will bring him nothing but vilification from some quarters on this Board. https://www.theguardian.com/profile/henrymcdonald


From WIKI:
Henry McDonald is a writer and Ireland correspondent for The Guardian and Observer.

McDonald has written extensively about the Troubles and related issues. He was born in the Irish nationalist Markets area of Belfast and attended St. Malachy's College. McDonald was formerly involved in Sinn Féin the Workers Party, a left-wing Irish republican party that emerged from Sinn Féin in the early 1970s and was associated with the Official IRA. He travelled to the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) with the youth wing of SFWP around 1980. Much of his writing concerns paramilitary groups in Northern Ireland, like the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) and Irish National Liberation Army (INLA). He has written a book on the INLA, INLA - Deadly Divisions, which he co-authored with the now deceased Jack Holland. The book was first published in 1994 and has since been re-printed.

More recently, McDonald has written on Ulster loyalist paramilitary groups and has co-authored books on the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) and UDA with Jim Cusack. He also wrote a biography of Ulster Unionist Party (UUP) leader David Trimble. He was, for a period, a security correspondent for the BBC in Belfast. During the 1990s he was a staff reporter at Belfast newspaper The Irish News, where he edited the youth pages.

McDonald is a supporter of Cliftonville and Everton.

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2832 on: December 11, 2016, 09:07:55 PM »
The Indo is very FF. A friend of the auld fella was a FF councillor and he used to go on long rants about the IRA Vs the Gardaí.  Nothing more despicable than that. Even Thatcher would get a free pass. That is also the Indo mentality.
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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2833 on: December 11, 2016, 09:33:12 PM »
Sweet Jesus, that Conlon article is unbelievable given the fact that he is attacking a journalist who writes in the same paper. This will no doubt get interesting, you would nearly think the Indo had set up Conlon to create a journalistic war between the two as I doubt very much if we've heard the end of this now.

What county is Conlon from?
The article is quite believable as a typical Tommy Conlon article. He's a purveyor of a string of articles centered around his attention seeking trash opinions.
Joe is Aristotle compared to Tommy.

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #2834 on: December 11, 2016, 10:23:00 PM »
Sweet Jesus, that Conlon article is unbelievable given the fact that he is attacking a journalist who writes in the same paper. This will no doubt get interesting, you would nearly think the Indo had set up Conlon to create a journalistic war between the two as I doubt very much if we've heard the end of this now.

What county is Conlon from?
The article is quite believable as a typical Tommy Conlon article. He's a purveyor of a string of articles centered around his attention seeking trash opinions.
Joe is Aristotle compared to Tommy.

Aristotle didn't Plato the crowd as much as Brolly.  :D
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