Joe Brolly

[Darby]

Off the top of my head, big games he has failed in:

Tyrone 03, 05, 08 and 15: Did not play well in 03, not bad in 15. Was Kerry's best player in 05 and 08 finals. In 05 he scored 0-5 and set up a goal. In 2008 he scored 0-6 (0-3 from play)
Dublin 15: Played terrible
Armagh 02 and 06: Played bad in 02 and in 06 he was only average, largely due to a lost season following his father's passing.
Derry 04: Best player on the field, scintillating. Scored 0-6, 0-5 from play.
Monaghan 07 and 08: Poor in 08. Very good in 07.
Cork 09: Played well. Scored 6 frees.
Down 10: By far Kerry's best player. Scored 0-7, 0-2 from play.
Donegal 12: Average

Poorish examples to be honest as I've highlighted above. I know you'll ignore though.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Off the top of my head, big games he has failed in:

Tyrone 03, 05, 08 and 15: Did not play well in 03, not bad in 15. Was Kerry's best player in 05 and 08 finals. In 05 he scored 0-5 and set up a goal. In 2008 he scored 0-6 (0-3 from play)
Dublin 15: Played terrible
Armagh 02 and 06: Played bad in 02 and in 06 he was only average, largely due to a lost season following his father's passing.
Derry 04: Best player on the field, scintillating. Scored 0-6, 0-5 from play.
Monaghan 07 and 08: Poor in 08. Very good in 07.
Cork 09: Played well. Scored 6 frees.
Down 10: By far Kerry's best player. Scored 0-7, 0-2 from play.
Donegal 12: Average

Poorish examples to be honest as I've highlighted above. I know you'll ignore though.

Cooper only scored three from play against Derry in 04 and was outscored in that particular area by both Paddy Bradley and Enda Muldoon who were feeding on scraps.

[Darby]

Off the top of my head, big games he has failed in:

Tyrone 03, 05, 08 and 15: Did not play well in 03, not bad in 15. Was Kerry's best player in 05 and 08 finals. In 05 he scored 0-5 and set up a goal. In 2008 he scored 0-6 (0-3 from play)
Dublin 15: Played terrible
Armagh 02 and 06: Played bad in 02 and in 06 he was only average, largely due to a lost season following his father's passing.
Derry 04: Best player on the field, scintillating. Scored 0-6, 0-5 from play.
Monaghan 07 and 08: Poor in 08. Very good in 07.
Cork 09: Played well. Scored 6 frees.
Down 10: By far Kerry's best player. Scored 0-7, 0-2 from play.
Donegal 12: Average

Poorish examples to be honest as I've highlighted above. I know you'll ignore though.

Cooper only scored three from play against Derry in 04 and was outscored in that particular area by both Paddy Bradley and Enda Muldoon who were feeding on scraps.

Only 0-3 from play? Okay then, he didn't have a great game I suppose then. Especially seeing as Bradley and Muldoon outscored him. Safe to say he had a really, really bad game then.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Off the top of my head, big games he has failed in:

Tyrone 03, 05, 08 and 15: Did not play well in 03, not bad in 15. Was Kerry's best player in 05 and 08 finals. In 05 he scored 0-5 and set up a goal. In 2008 he scored 0-6 (0-3 from play)
Dublin 15: Played terrible
Armagh 02 and 06: Played bad in 02 and in 06 he was only average, largely due to a lost season following his father's passing.
Derry 04: Best player on the field, scintillating. Scored 0-6, 0-5 from play.
Monaghan 07 and 08: Poor in 08. Very good in 07.
Cork 09: Played well. Scored 6 frees.
Down 10: By far Kerry's best player. Scored 0-7, 0-2 from play.
Donegal 12: Average

Poorish examples to be honest as I've highlighted above. I know you'll ignore though.

Cooper only scored three from play against Derry in 04 and was outscored in that particular area by both Paddy Bradley and Enda Muldoon who were feeding on scraps.

Only 0-3 from play? Okay then, he didn't have a great game I suppose then. Especially seeing as Bradley and Muldoon outscored him. Safe to say he had a really, really bad game then.

Cooper should be judged under different standards to others. He's the guy who we are told us the greatest forward of his generation. There are a good 6 or 7 forwards playing in Ulster alone in his era I'd have ahead of him.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Bomber - you've overtaken Fearon as the worst poster on this place.

Just take a second to think about that 

[Darby]

Off the top of my head, big games he has failed in:

Tyrone 03, 05, 08 and 15: Did not play well in 03, not bad in 15. Was Kerry's best player in 05 and 08 finals. In 05 he scored 0-5 and set up a goal. In 2008 he scored 0-6 (0-3 from play)
Dublin 15: Played terrible
Armagh 02 and 06: Played bad in 02 and in 06 he was only average, largely due to a lost season following his father's passing.
Derry 04: Best player on the field, scintillating. Scored 0-6, 0-5 from play.
Monaghan 07 and 08: Poor in 08. Very good in 07.
Cork 09: Played well. Scored 6 frees.
Down 10: By far Kerry's best player. Scored 0-7, 0-2 from play.
Donegal 12: Average

Poorish examples to be honest as I've highlighted above. I know you'll ignore though.

Cooper only scored three from play against Derry in 04 and was outscored in that particular area by both Paddy Bradley and Enda Muldoon who were feeding on scraps.

Only 0-3 from play? Okay then, he didn't have a great game I suppose then. Especially seeing as Bradley and Muldoon outscored him. Safe to say he had a really, really bad game then.

Cooper should be judged under different standards to others. He's the guy who we are told us the greatest forward of his generation. There are a good 6 or 7 forwards playing in Ulster alone in his era I'd have ahead of him.

He is the greatest forward of his generation. Greatest forward I've seen. He played very well in a lot of the games you're peddling as bad performances. He was surrounded by great Kerry players in a lot of those matches, and still stood out as their best player in a lot of them. You're saying he's not even a great footballer. You think Donaghy's great. You know very little about football.

[trueblue1234]

Bomber - you've overtaken Fearon as the worst poster on this place.

Just take a second to think about that

To be fair Fearon has his moments when he's entertaining. This is just painful.....

[omaghjoe]

Bomber - you've overtaken Fearon as the worst poster on this place.

Just take a second to think about that

Its yourselves giving him fuel and even tho I think he's way of the mark he's entitled to his deluded opinion in spite of the facts.

But the similarities with Fearon dont end there because now the odd one out bullyboy stuff starts...

[Il Bomber Destro]

Off the top of my head, big games he has failed in:

Tyrone 03, 05, 08 and 15: Did not play well in 03, not bad in 15. Was Kerry's best player in 05 and 08 finals. In 05 he scored 0-5 and set up a goal. In 2008 he scored 0-6 (0-3 from play)
Dublin 15: Played terrible
Armagh 02 and 06: Played bad in 02 and in 06 he was only average, largely due to a lost season following his father's passing.
Derry 04: Best player on the field, scintillating. Scored 0-6, 0-5 from play.
Monaghan 07 and 08: Poor in 08. Very good in 07.
Cork 09: Played well. Scored 6 frees.
Down 10: By far Kerry's best player. Scored 0-7, 0-2 from play.
Donegal 12: Average

Poorish examples to be honest as I've highlighted above. I know you'll ignore though.

Cooper only scored three from play against Derry in 04 and was outscored in that particular area by both Paddy Bradley and Enda Muldoon who were feeding on scraps.

Only 0-3 from play? Okay then, he didn't have a great game I suppose then. Especially seeing as Bradley and Muldoon outscored him. Safe to say he had a really, really bad game then.

Cooper should be judged under different standards to others. He's the guy who we are told us the greatest forward of his generation. There are a good 6 or 7 forwards playing in Ulster alone in his era I'd have ahead of him.

He is the greatest forward of his generation. Greatest forward I've seen. He played very well in a lot of the games you're peddling as bad performances. He was surrounded by great Kerry players in a lot of those matches, and still stood out as their best player in a lot of them. You're saying he's not even a great footballer. You think Donaghy's great. You know very little about football.

Great forwards do it when it really, really matters. Donaghy generally did it when they needed him, look at how he won them an All Ireland last year. Cooper just collapses when the pressure come round.

A great flat track bully but not a great player.

[Rodman]

While we all agree that Il Bomber is talking nonsense, it is strange that Gooch has never won player of the year. So for the past 14 years, in a period where Kerry were consistently dining at the top table, the Gooch was never deemed to be the stand out player in any of those years, yet many of us consider him to be the best footballer during that period....now go work that one out.

[trueblue1234]

Bomber - you've overtaken Fearon as the worst poster on this place.

Just take a second to think about that

Its yourselves giving him fuel and even tho I think he's way of the mark he's entitled to his deluded opinion in spite of the facts.

But the similarities with Fearon dont end there because now the odd one out bullyboy stuff starts...

You do realise completely disagreeing with someone isn't bullying?

[Eamonnca1]

Bomber - you've overtaken Fearon as the worst poster on this place.

Just take a second to think about that

That's below the belt.

[mouview]

Jeez, poor old Gooch turning out to be the new Joe Canning, and just as maligned.

[BennyHarp]

Is he maligned? It's one person on here and Joe Brolly who are throwing this nonsense at him, hardly a full scale assault. I'm sure he'll not lose too much sleep over this.

[Estimator]

Off the top of my head, big games he has failed in:

Tyrone 03, 05, 08 and 15: Did not play well in 03, not bad in 15. Was Kerry's best player in 05 and 08 finals. In 05 he scored 0-5 and set up a goal. In 2008 he scored 0-6 (0-3 from play)
Dublin 15: Played terrible
Armagh 02 and 06: Played bad in 02 and in 06 he was only average, largely due to a lost season following his father's passing.
Derry 04: Best player on the field, scintillating. Scored 0-6, 0-5 from play.
Monaghan 07 and 08: Poor in 08. Very good in 07.
Cork 09: Played well. Scored 6 frees.
Down 10: By far Kerry's best player. Scored 0-7, 0-2 from play.
Donegal 12: Average

Poorish examples to be honest as I've highlighted above. I know you'll ignore though.

Cooper only scored three from play against Derry in 04 and was outscored in that particular area by both Paddy Bradley and Enda Muldoon who were feeding on scraps.

Nice little side step and misuse of the stats. Muldoon scored 1-1 that day inside the first 15 odd minutes, he didn't score for the rest of the game. Bradley (one of the forwards you keep comparing Cooper to) scored 0-5 from play + 1 free. Two of those Bradley pts came in the last 5mins when Kerry had all but packed up and headed back down the road. Derry scored the last 5pts in that match. Kerry were 11pts up at that stage. Derry failed to score for about 30mins in that match. Something that Bradley should not have allowed to happen. He should have been grabbing that game by the scruff and kick Derry into the final. That's not to mention the three or more handy frees that he missed. Those scores would have kept us ticking, but nevermind Paddy and Enda had better games than Cooper.