Joe Brolly

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Zulu

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

lenny

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Thats brollys opinion. Later in the article he says that Donaghy's catch from a hop ball was "impossible". That tells you all you need to know about brollys opinion and how he spins things to suit his argument.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

I'd like people to stop denying the holocaust and saying Cooper is a great when the evidence points other ways. Great players are the ones who do it when it really really matters, Cooper has throughout his career been shown to be a flat track bully but is given some revered and untouchable status by the GAA press.

Brolly is the only journalist to tackle this portrayal and was met with extreme hostility for expressing it. Time has vindicated him even further.

time ticking away

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

I'd like people to stop denying the holocaust and saying Cooper is a great when the evidence points other ways. Great players are the ones who do it when it really really matters, Cooper has throughout his career been shown to be a flat track bully but is given some revered and untouchable status by the GAA press.

Brolly is the only journalist to tackle this portrayal and was met with extreme hostility for expressing it. Time has vindicated him even further.
I didn't realize you held Brolly's opinion in such high esteem.
canavan is the man canavan is the man ee aye adi ooh.......

beer baron

He's good for a laugh is Joe,nothing more nothing less.

Zulu

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

I'd like people to stop denying the holocaust and saying Cooper is a great when the evidence points other ways. Great players are the ones who do it when it really really matters, Cooper has throughout his career been shown to be a flat track bully but is given some revered and untouchable status by the GAA press.

Brolly is the only journalist to tackle this portrayal and was met with extreme hostility for expressing it. Time has vindicated him even further.

It's opinions and that's all your's is, or perish the thought, even Joe's. Lots of people view Cooper a better player than you do so perhaps it's time you just left it at that?

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

I'd like people to stop denying the holocaust and saying Cooper is a great when the evidence points other ways. Great players are the ones who do it when it really really matters, Cooper has throughout his career been shown to be a flat track bully but is given some revered and untouchable status by the GAA press.

Brolly is the only journalist to tackle this portrayal and was met with extreme hostility for expressing it. Time has vindicated him even further.

It's opinions and that's all your's is, or perish the thought, even Joe's. Lots of people view Cooper a better player than you do so perhaps it's time you just left it at that?

There's a body of evidence there that shows Cooper doesn't deliver when the pressure is on. Cooper may just be the greatest flat track bully ever but he's a good bit off a real great.

beer baron

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

I'd like people to stop denying the holocaust and saying Cooper is a great when the evidence points other ways. Great players are the ones who do it when it really really matters, Cooper has throughout his career been shown to be a flat track bully but is given some revered and untouchable status by the GAA press.

Brolly is the only journalist to tackle this portrayal and was met with extreme hostility for expressing it. Time has vindicated him even further.

It's opinions and that's all your's is, or perish the thought, even Joe's. Lots of people view Cooper a better player than you do so perhaps it's time you just left it at that?

There's a body of evidence there that shows Cooper doesn't deliver when the pressure is on. Cooper may just be the greatest flat track bully ever but he's a good bit off a real great.

You are very selective in what you call pressure though because there's a large body of evidence to suggest he does produce in pressure situations,nothing more high pressure than an All Ireland final and he's been the star in them. But just ignore that as it doesn't fit your narrative.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: beer baron on September 27, 2015, 04:08:46 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

I'd like people to stop denying the holocaust and saying Cooper is a great when the evidence points other ways. Great players are the ones who do it when it really really matters, Cooper has throughout his career been shown to be a flat track bully but is given some revered and untouchable status by the GAA press.

Brolly is the only journalist to tackle this portrayal and was met with extreme hostility for expressing it. Time has vindicated him even further.

It's opinions and that's all your's is, or perish the thought, even Joe's. Lots of people view Cooper a better player than you do so perhaps it's time you just left it at that?

There's a body of evidence there that shows Cooper doesn't deliver when the pressure is on. Cooper may just be the greatest flat track bully ever but he's a good bit off a real great.

You are very selective in what you call pressure though because there's a large body of evidence to suggest he does produce in pressure situations,nothing more high pressure than an All Ireland final and he's been the star in them. But just ignore that as it doesn't fit your narrative.

And Cooper has now lost more than he has won.


beer baron

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: beer baron on September 27, 2015, 04:08:46 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

I'd like people to stop denying the holocaust and saying Cooper is a great when the evidence points other ways. Great players are the ones who do it when it really really matters, Cooper has throughout his career been shown to be a flat track bully but is given some revered and untouchable status by the GAA press.

Brolly is the only journalist to tackle this portrayal and was met with extreme hostility for expressing it. Time has vindicated him even further.

It's opinions and that's all your's is, or perish the thought, even Joe's. Lots of people view Cooper a better player than you do so perhaps it's time you just left it at that?

There's a body of evidence there that shows Cooper doesn't deliver when the pressure is on. Cooper may just be the greatest flat track bully ever but he's a good bit off a real great.

You are very selective in what you call pressure though because there's a large body of evidence to suggest he does produce in pressure situations,nothing more high pressure than an All Ireland final and he's been the star in them. But just ignore that as it doesn't fit your narrative.

And Cooper has now lost more than he has won.

He's only 1 player, an unbelievably good 1 but still only 1 player,anyway i don't know why i even bothered replying here again, i know you've your mind made up and i've mine made up so i'll leave it at that.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: beer baron on September 27, 2015, 04:42:26 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: beer baron on September 27, 2015, 04:08:46 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

I'd like people to stop denying the holocaust and saying Cooper is a great when the evidence points other ways. Great players are the ones who do it when it really really matters, Cooper has throughout his career been shown to be a flat track bully but is given some revered and untouchable status by the GAA press.

Brolly is the only journalist to tackle this portrayal and was met with extreme hostility for expressing it. Time has vindicated him even further.

It's opinions and that's all your's is, or perish the thought, even Joe's. Lots of people view Cooper a better player than you do so perhaps it's time you just left it at that?

There's a body of evidence there that shows Cooper doesn't deliver when the pressure is on. Cooper may just be the greatest flat track bully ever but he's a good bit off a real great.

You are very selective in what you call pressure though because there's a large body of evidence to suggest he does produce in pressure situations,nothing more high pressure than an All Ireland final and he's been the star in them. But just ignore that as it doesn't fit your narrative.

And Cooper has now lost more than he has won.

He's only 1 player, an unbelievably good 1 but still only 1 player,anyway i don't know why i even bothered replying here again, i know you've your mind made up and i've mine made up so i'll leave it at that.

He's one player regarded as one of the greatest of all times. Generally I'd judge players of that reputation under those particular parameters and Cooper falls a long way short.

trileacman

I'd be interested in Canavan's opinion on this as Joe's so willing to name-drop him into this to back his half-brained assertions. A top forward's opinion on a top forward. Not the ramblings of a 2nd rate wannabe.
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

trileacman

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 05:17:13 PM
Quote from: beer baron on September 27, 2015, 04:42:26 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: beer baron on September 27, 2015, 04:08:46 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

I'd like people to stop denying the holocaust and saying Cooper is a great when the evidence points other ways. Great players are the ones who do it when it really really matters, Cooper has throughout his career been shown to be a flat track bully but is given some revered and untouchable status by the GAA press.

Brolly is the only journalist to tackle this portrayal and was met with extreme hostility for expressing it. Time has vindicated him even further.

It's opinions and that's all your's is, or perish the thought, even Joe's. Lots of people view Cooper a better player than you do so perhaps it's time you just left it at that?

There's a body of evidence there that shows Cooper doesn't deliver when the pressure is on. Cooper may just be the greatest flat track bully ever but he's a good bit off a real great.

You are very selective in what you call pressure though because there's a large body of evidence to suggest he does produce in pressure situations,nothing more high pressure than an All Ireland final and he's been the star in them. But just ignore that as it doesn't fit your narrative.

And Cooper has now lost more than he has won.

He's only 1 player, an unbelievably good 1 but still only 1 player,anyway i don't know why i even bothered replying here again, i know you've your mind made up and i've mine made up so i'll leave it at that.

He's one player regarded as one of the greatest of all times. Generally I'd judge players of that reputation under those particular parameters and Cooper falls a long way short.
No he doesn't, you're talking through your ass.
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: trileacman on September 27, 2015, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 05:17:13 PM
Quote from: beer baron on September 27, 2015, 04:42:26 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: beer baron on September 27, 2015, 04:08:46 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 27, 2015, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 27, 2015, 11:42:43 AM
Brolly on Cooper today:

"when the heat is turned up, he disappears."

"In adversity, he fails."

"If Philly McMahon had tried that stuff with wee Peter (Canavan) he would have been waking up next morning with a very sore face and probably about 1-03 scored off him."

Is there a reason you're repeatedly bringing this up? You don't feel Cooper is amongst the greats, many would disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion, as is Brolly. However, you've made this point already as has Brolly so it's pointless doing so over and over again.

I'd like people to stop denying the holocaust and saying Cooper is a great when the evidence points other ways. Great players are the ones who do it when it really really matters, Cooper has throughout his career been shown to be a flat track bully but is given some revered and untouchable status by the GAA press.

Brolly is the only journalist to tackle this portrayal and was met with extreme hostility for expressing it. Time has vindicated him even further.

It's opinions and that's all your's is, or perish the thought, even Joe's. Lots of people view Cooper a better player than you do so perhaps it's time you just left it at that?

There's a body of evidence there that shows Cooper doesn't deliver when the pressure is on. Cooper may just be the greatest flat track bully ever but he's a good bit off a real great.

You are very selective in what you call pressure though because there's a large body of evidence to suggest he does produce in pressure situations,nothing more high pressure than an All Ireland final and he's been the star in them. But just ignore that as it doesn't fit your narrative.

And Cooper has now lost more than he has won.

He's only 1 player, an unbelievably good 1 but still only 1 player,anyway i don't know why i even bothered replying here again, i know you've your mind made up and i've mine made up so i'll leave it at that.

He's one player regarded as one of the greatest of all times. Generally I'd judge players of that reputation under those particular parameters and Cooper falls a long way short.
No he doesn't, you're talking through your ass.

He does. I disagree with a lot of what Brolly says but he is bang on the money when it comes to Cooper. It's easy to look good when the opposition allow you to but when things have gone to the melting pot Cooper has been found wanting, time after time after time again.

When you're in bother you look to your big players to dig you out of a hole and not only is Gooch regarded as one of Kerry's best or his generation's best but he is also talked about in all time greatness. Great players don't disappear like Cooper does when his team need him, consistently.

Great players do it when it really matters, Cooper is grand when things are going well and when he is allowed play or up against poor opposition but not when his team need him when in bother. Great players, great forwards can feed off the scraps. Cooper can't.