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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #210 on: May 14, 2012, 05:18:24 PM »
When I was young and learning to play the game I was told that you should never show the opposition any sign of weakness, that when you where hurt jump up and let on your fine, I think most people will agree that this in the main this was the way things used to be.
You probably always had the odd boy on teams buying free's etc, but I honestly don't know how some of these boys watch themselves on the Sunday game with some of the antics that they get up to, seriously like have they know shame?
Did Tyrone bring cheating into modern football? I don't know, but they certainly took it to a new level and the sad thing about is they where a class team that had no need to be so low.
The funny thing about Tyrone having more divers than most of the other counties in Ireland put together is that if yo go to Cookstown/Omagh/Strabane for a night out you are taking your life into your own hands as they are roughest crowd of hallions you could ever have the misfortune to come across and love nothing more than fighting ( this includes men and women ), yet when they take to the pitch they can be knocked over by a gust of wind. Doesn't make sense.
No cheating in football before 2003.  ::)
Especially from those L/Derry b'tards.

Do you care to back this up with any evidence? We already have 4 high profile incidents involving Tyrone talked about in this thread already . . .

To the Derry wans on this thread, youse are letting youself down a bit. Derry have had a few over the years who liked to "make the most" of physical contact. That said the Tyronies took it to a different level altogether and its a waste of time trying to reason with their supporters. The aul fella calls them the taliban for a reason. We appear to have skipped the worst incident of the lot and that was Dooher against Westmeath in Omagh, I couldnt believe he conned the ref with it.

I think you're being harsh there olg. Yes we had a few lads who were keen to goad opposition players to get them sent off but very few who would have exaggerated or taken a dive. The only one I can think of would be Johnny McGurk who would have made a meal of things but never any really bad incidents (other than at club level).

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #211 on: May 14, 2012, 05:29:36 PM »
When I was young and learning to play the game I was told that you should never show the opposition any sign of weakness, that when you where hurt jump up and let on your fine, I think most people will agree that this in the main this was the way things used to be.
You probably always had the odd boy on teams buying free's etc, but I honestly don't know how some of these boys watch themselves on the Sunday game with some of the antics that they get up to, seriously like have they know shame?
Did Tyrone bring cheating into modern football? I don't know, but they certainly took it to a new level and the sad thing about is they where a class team that had no need to be so low.
The funny thing about Tyrone having more divers than most of the other counties in Ireland put together is that if yo go to Cookstown/Omagh/Strabane for a night out you are taking your life into your own hands as they are roughest crowd of hallions you could ever have the misfortune to come across and love nothing more than fighting ( this includes men and women ), yet when they take to the pitch they can be knocked over by a gust of wind. Doesn't make sense.
No cheating in football before 2003.  ::)
Especially from those L/Derry b'tards.

Do you care to back this up with any evidence? We already have 4 high profile incidents involving Tyrone talked about in this thread already . . .
The goading of Peter Canavan in the 2001 All-Ireland Quarter Final for a start that led to his sending off, along with Tohill punching McAnallen in the earlier Ulster Championship game and getting away with it.

If I were you I'd be more worried by the fact that Draperstown is now becoming half full of Tyrone natives, alongside the other half turning into xenophobic rednecks.
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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #212 on: May 14, 2012, 05:33:16 PM »
The aul fella calls them the taliban for a reason.
That's not the worst of labels I've heard. Wouldn't be a bad idea for us to make all the women in south L/Derry wear Burqas.
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« Reply #213 on: May 14, 2012, 05:46:28 PM »
When I was young and learning to play the game I was told that you should never show the opposition any sign of weakness, that when you where hurt jump up and let on your fine, I think most people will agree that this in the main this was the way things used to be.
You probably always had the odd boy on teams buying free's etc, but I honestly don't know how some of these boys watch themselves on the Sunday game with some of the antics that they get up to, seriously like have they know shame?
Did Tyrone bring cheating into modern football? I don't know, but they certainly took it to a new level and the sad thing about is they where a class team that had no need to be so low.
The funny thing about Tyrone having more divers than most of the other counties in Ireland put together is that if yo go to Cookstown/Omagh/Strabane for a night out you are taking your life into your own hands as they are roughest crowd of hallions you could ever have the misfortune to come across and love nothing more than fighting ( this includes men and women ), yet when they take to the pitch they can be knocked over by a gust of wind. Doesn't make sense.
No cheating in football before 2003.  ::)
Especially from those L/Derry b'tards.

Do you care to back this up with any evidence? We already have 4 high profile incidents involving Tyrone talked about in this thread already . . .
The goading of Peter Canavan in the 2001 All-Ireland Quarter Final for a start that led to his sending off, along with Tohill punching McAnallen in the earlier Ulster Championship game and getting away with it.

If I were you I'd be more worried by the fact that Draperstown is now becoming half full of Tyrone natives, alongside the other half turning into xenophobic rednecks.

Bummer,

You are moving the goalposts somewhat if your starting to include goading, the topic here is diving is it not? Poor aul Peter was well fit for the goading, he preferred to get his retaliation in first on most occassions, and not with taunting either. Jesus if your including one player punching another we will be here from now till Fermanagh win an Ulster Championship, although he didnt punch him either.

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #214 on: May 14, 2012, 05:58:10 PM »
Bummer,

You are moving the goalposts somewhat if your starting to include goading, the topic here is diving is it not? Poor aul Peter was well fit for the goading, he preferred to get his retaliation in first on most occassions, and not with taunting either. Jesus if your including one player punching another we will be here from now till Fermanagh win an Ulster Championship, although he didnt punch him either.
I'm not moving any goalposts. I've already said earlier that goading along with dirty digs and diving/simulation are cancers of the game and I'd rather not see them. But if yer going to see your opponents play dirty, you lose nothing taking them on at their own game.Slap it up them I only wish Fintona were the same to some extent, we're too nice of a team - our more notable "physical" players over the years more often than not have been inward transfers.
As for Fermanagh winning an Ulster Championship, they will probably do it before L/Derry win their next one. And it'll be nice yet annoying (if only to hear the waterboys crow about it) at the same time if it's Canavan that leads them to taking home the Anglo-Celt.
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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #215 on: May 14, 2012, 06:06:05 PM »
Great to see PTG create such debate even 7 years after he retired from County football.  ;D ;D

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #216 on: May 14, 2012, 06:06:16 PM »
Bummer
By the way, if you're going to use that name, then you are at least in your thirties or very close to it. So it begs the question of what are you doing going to nightclubs in Cookstown, Omagh or Strabane? Still trying to bag 17 year old O'Neill pussy?
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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #217 on: May 14, 2012, 06:08:02 PM »
Great to see PTG create such debate even 7 years after he retired from County football.  ;D ;D
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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #218 on: May 14, 2012, 06:09:17 PM »
Ah now Fintona we are clearly talking about diving here. If you want to get into goading opposition players there are a few of the 2003  inbreds who could write a book on it!

I'm not really getting the Draperstown half full of Tyrone rednecks reference? Would you care to expand on this?

Also is there any particular reason for the name calling/slagging of where we're from? We are trying to have a civilized debate here! And you still haven't given me any examples of Derry players feigning injury or diving!!!!

Good to see the old Tyrone siege mentality alive and well ...

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #219 on: May 14, 2012, 06:15:58 PM »
Bummer
By the way, if you're going to use that name, then you are at least in your thirties or very close to it. So it begs the question of what are you doing going to nightclubs in Cookstown, Omagh or Strabane? Still trying to bag 17 year old O'Neill pussy?

Bummer,

Not like you to slip so badly, read back a few posts and send on your apologies.

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #220 on: May 14, 2012, 06:30:02 PM »
Ah now Fintona we are clearly talking about diving here.
Nope. We were talking about Joe Brolly.

If you want to get into goading opposition players there are a few of the 2003  inbreds who could write a book on it!
A bit harsh slagging off your own players!

I'm not really getting the Draperstown half full of Tyrone rednecks reference? Would you care to expand on this?
It was half Tyronies, half xenophobic rednecks, but hey. Tirruadh is full of Tyrone exiles these days, I was up around the place a couple of days before the NFL2 final between Tyrone & Kildare and the amount of Tyrone flags out were ridiculous! As for the natives being xenophobic rednecks... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15021321

Also is there any particular reason for the name calling/slagging of where we're from? We are trying to have a civilized debate here!
Hmmm...
If you want to get into goading opposition players there are a few of the 2003  inbreds who could write a book on it!
You couldn't pwn yourself easier if you were Tony Fearon!

And you still haven't given me any examples of Derry players feigning injury or diving!!!!
No need! Dirty and unsportsmanlike conduct are my pet hates, which includes - but not limited to - feigning injury or simulation. It's not me being a la carte about playing conduct in the GAA.

Good to see the old Tyrone siege mentality alive and well ...
As opposed to the siege mentality that exists among clubs in much of south L/Derry? Pretty legendary across Ireland, only Kerry and Laois club hurling comes close.
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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #221 on: May 14, 2012, 06:39:23 PM »
Bummer
By the way, if you're going to use that name, then you are at least in your thirties or very close to it. So it begs the question of what are you doing going to nightclubs in Cookstown, Omagh or Strabane? Still trying to bag 17 year old O'Neill pussy?

Bummer,

Not like you to slip so badly, read back a few posts and send on your apologies.

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The funny thing about Tyrone having more divers than most of the other counties in Ireland put together is that if yo go to Cookstown/Omagh/Strabane for a night out you are taking your life into your own hands as they are roughest crowd of hallions you could ever have the misfortune to come across and love nothing more than fighting ( this includes men and women ), yet when they take to the pitch they can be knocked over by a gust of wind. Doesn't make sense.

Now I know there are some rough elements to parts of these towns on Saturday nights that I'd avoid (though there's c***ts like that in every town with a bit of nightlife beyond a pub, I know from being out in/working at a nightclub in Enniskillen) but these are pretty much restricted to venues that attract sixth formers, young apprentices and some university students - the more "mature" venues don't tend to be plagued as such bar the odd occasion. At least in Omagh anyway. So the only conclusion I can make is that you like to be chasing anything that on Monday to Fridays is in a pleated skirt. Now I don't know about you but I consider myself a bit old for that.
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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #222 on: May 14, 2012, 06:50:02 PM »
Ah now Fintona we are clearly talking about diving here.
Nope. We were talking about Joe Brolly.

If you want to get into goading opposition players there are a few of the 2003  inbreds who could write a book on it!
A bit harsh slagging off your own players!

I'm not really getting the Draperstown half full of Tyrone rednecks reference? Would you care to expand on this?
It was half Tyronies, half xenophobic rednecks, but hey. Tirruadh is full of Tyrone exiles these days, I was up around the place a couple of days before the NFL2 final between Tyrone & Kildare and the amount of Tyrone flags out were ridiculous! As for the natives being xenophobic rednecks... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15021321

Also is there any particular reason for the name calling/slagging of where we're from? We are trying to have a civilized debate here!
Hmmm...
If you want to get into goading opposition players there are a few of the 2003  inbreds who could write a book on it!
You couldn't pwn yourself easier if you were Tony Fearon!

And you still haven't given me any examples of Derry players feigning injury or diving!!!!
No need! Dirty and unsportsmanlike conduct are my pet hates, which includes - but not limited to - feigning injury or simulation. It's not me being a la carte about playing conduct in the GAA.

Good to see the old Tyrone siege mentality alive and well ...
As opposed to the siege mentality that exists among clubs in much of south L/Derry? Pretty legendary across Ireland, only Kerry and Laois club hurling comes close.

So with regard to my very simple and easily worded question you have no examples and have engaged in whataboutery in order to score some cheap points . . . fair enough I suppose I should have understood the level I was dealing with before I asked.

PS. Tirruadh isn't in Draperstown ;)

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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #223 on: May 14, 2012, 07:00:03 PM »
So with regard to my very simple and easily worded question you have no examples and have engaged in whataboutery in order to score some cheap points . . . fair enough I suppose I should have understood the level I was dealing with before I asked.
Ah, "whataboutery", the defence of the idiot whom when confronted with a critique of their own actions tries to find an excuse but fails. Are you related to Joey Barton by any chance?

PS. Tirruadh isn't in Draperstown ;)
That's not what the folk in Straw told me!  ;D

By the way, an aunt of mine was doing some shopping in Draperstown last month with her children and was abruptly stopped in the street close to the Vivo Extra store by two burly men demanding to know if she was Polish. At the rate these things are going, that village will be having its own Stormfront chapter by the end of this year.

I have to say that a brilliant job has been done by the Tyrone senior team over the past decade in putting some civilised manners on the primitive L/Derry hoards - mind you, it's just all two dozen of them - that attend Intercounty games who have ensured that in reminding some people that when there's no London in Tyrone, the retort of "No Sams either" has been lost to the annals of time and with that happening, the bitterness coming from our northern neighbours is more noticeable than an overflowing barrel of crushed lemons :)
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Re: Joe Brolly
« Reply #224 on: May 14, 2012, 07:14:44 PM »
I've heard it all now, someone from Fintona calling other people rednecks. ;D ;D