Mayo v Galway 26.6.11

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seafoid

Thanks lads. It has been a very entertaining afternoon.

seafoid

BTW Deel Rover I didn't say "Galway are like down they don't lose all-Irelands". Of course we do. But we wouldn't lose 14 in a row  ;) Teams have some sort of thought patterns and whatever Mayo has in all-Ireland finals seems to be banjaxed.

I still think Mayo are favourites for the match against Galway fwiw.

GalwayBayBoy

Seafoid are you related to Sylvie Linnane  by any chance?

As you too would start a riot in a graveyard. ;D

mayogodhelpus@gmail.com





But Seafoid, what happens when Mayo play Galway in Croke Park  ;)

All we need is to play the Heron Chokers in September in HQ and we are quids in.
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

Corcaigh Abu

Quote from: ross matt on June 02, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 02, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 02, 2011, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 09:13:59 AM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 02, 2011, 12:58:44 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Why do I read about Kildare every year?

Because you buy a newspaper on an annual basis?


Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Who wakes up screaming thinking of Kildare?

I do......

Fair play to you Hollow, you're a scholar and a gentleman. I should point out that I've been to games in Laois, Kildare and Monaghan and I found the welcome warm and the football tremendous. It just gets on my wick when people in West lie down and are then totally mystified when they get walked on.

I think, Iolar, that we tend to overlook theh fact that players and supporters live in each others' shadows.
Unlike professional soccer and rugby players, our GAA lads are very much part of their own communities and  therefore react to the vibes they pick up from those around them. If the fans are happy, the team plays well. If the fans think their neighbour's child is a total waste of space and couldn't kick snow off a rope, the poor lad's confidence is going to be sorely dented.
It's a two-way process; a form of synergy if you like.
Far too often, I have seen brilliant games in venues from Salthilll to Carrick and left those grounds knowing  that the winners would never reproduce their form when they crossed the Shannon. Unlike draught  Guinness, Connacht players should not lose their best qualities when they travel  across water.  Yet, most times they do no matter where the crossing occurs.
I don't think players lose their talents when they venture outside Connacht but all too often they do lose their confidence and I put that down to the drop of expectations amongst their supporters. That's a generalisation I know but it does happen more often than not.

If Galway fuballers have a good team they can go all the way and being from Connacht doesn't come into it. This year's under 21 was a good example. They were underdogs against Cork but they had no fear of them and won the semi final and then the final was a walk in the park.

Ros and Mayo are the ones that tend to suffer from stage fright . They both had good under 21 teams recently but nothing came of them.    It must be all in the head. The Galway hurlers have a similar affliction at senior level but can still churn out the goods under age.

I can't bear to look at how many all-Ireland finals Mayo have lost in the last 20 years.   

Galway had the players to beat the likes of Sligo, Wexford and Westmeath in recent years but they were'nt able to do it. Explain that?

Roscommon won the Connacht u-21s last year so there was obviously nothing wrong with their heads then. They also won connacht senior and it was lack of ability not confidence in Croker that had them lose to eventual AI winners Cork. They won the 06 minor AI beating Kerry in a replay so your "stage fright" theory doesnt hold up then either. In Connacht that year they beat an excellent Galway side in  a  turn up for the books. The reverse happened the year after when Galway went on to win the minor AI.

This year the Ross u-21 side wasnt within an asses roar of what turned out to be an excellent AI winning Galway side. Again there was no mental issues.... Ross were outclassed physically and skilfully.

Roscommon held their own at senior v the Dubs in 04 and kerry in 03 with both matches in Croker.  The  90/91 sides were beaten by Meath and Cork in Croker in very competitive matches.

Cant think  of any "stage fright" scenarios in Croker that you refer to. You'd be better looking at facts rather than trading on soundbites and stereotypes.  Galway definitely have the ability to go up and win silverware from time to time but thats due to having had class players like Joyce/Donnellan & Co that Connacht winning Rossie sides never had.  That being said 2001 is drifting in to the distance. Might be better to wait till after the Mayo match at least before condescendingly commenting on the neighbours mentality.

To be fair now i would hardly call Galway a football super power considering they have only won 2 all irelands since the 60's.They are the most successful connacht county but that's hardly a great achievement.If i were a Galway man i would be more worried about beating a non connacht team first. ;)
Roses Are Red,Violets Are Blue,We have 120 All Irelands, How Many Have You?

GaillimhIarthair

Quote from: Corcaigh Abu on June 02, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: ross matt on June 02, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 02, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 02, 2011, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 09:13:59 AM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 02, 2011, 12:58:44 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Why do I read about Kildare every year?

Because you buy a newspaper on an annual basis?


Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Who wakes up screaming thinking of Kildare?

I do......

Fair play to you Hollow, you're a scholar and a gentleman. I should point out that I've been to games in Laois, Kildare and Monaghan and I found the welcome warm and the football tremendous. It just gets on my wick when people in West lie down and are then totally mystified when they get walked on.

I think, Iolar, that we tend to overlook theh fact that players and supporters live in each others' shadows.
Unlike professional soccer and rugby players, our GAA lads are very much part of their own communities and  therefore react to the vibes they pick up from those around them. If the fans are happy, the team plays well. If the fans think their neighbour's child is a total waste of space and couldn't kick snow off a rope, the poor lad's confidence is going to be sorely dented.
It's a two-way process; a form of synergy if you like.
Far too often, I have seen brilliant games in venues from Salthilll to Carrick and left those grounds knowing  that the winners would never reproduce their form when they crossed the Shannon. Unlike draught  Guinness, Connacht players should not lose their best qualities when they travel  across water.  Yet, most times they do no matter where the crossing occurs.
I don't think players lose their talents when they venture outside Connacht but all too often they do lose their confidence and I put that down to the drop of expectations amongst their supporters. That's a generalisation I know but it does happen more often than not.

If Galway fuballers have a good team they can go all the way and being from Connacht doesn't come into it. This year's under 21 was a good example. They were underdogs against Cork but they had no fear of them and won the semi final and then the final was a walk in the park.

Ros and Mayo are the ones that tend to suffer from stage fright . They both had good under 21 teams recently but nothing came of them.    It must be all in the head. The Galway hurlers have a similar affliction at senior level but can still churn out the goods under age.

I can't bear to look at how many all-Ireland finals Mayo have lost in the last 20 years.   

Galway had the players to beat the likes of Sligo, Wexford and Westmeath in recent years but they were'nt able to do it. Explain that?

Roscommon won the Connacht u-21s last year so there was obviously nothing wrong with their heads then. They also won connacht senior and it was lack of ability not confidence in Croker that had them lose to eventual AI winners Cork. They won the 06 minor AI beating Kerry in a replay so your "stage fright" theory doesnt hold up then either. In Connacht that year they beat an excellent Galway side in  a  turn up for the books. The reverse happened the year after when Galway went on to win the minor AI.

This year the Ross u-21 side wasnt within an asses roar of what turned out to be an excellent AI winning Galway side. Again there was no mental issues.... Ross were outclassed physically and skilfully.

Roscommon held their own at senior v the Dubs in 04 and kerry in 03 with both matches in Croker.  The  90/91 sides were beaten by Meath and Cork in Croker in very competitive matches.

Cant think  of any "stage fright" scenarios in Croker that you refer to. You'd be better looking at facts rather than trading on soundbites and stereotypes.  Galway definitely have the ability to go up and win silverware from time to time but thats due to having had class players like Joyce/Donnellan & Co that Connacht winning Rossie sides never had.  That being said 2001 is drifting in to the distance. Might be better to wait till after the Mayo match at least before condescendingly commenting on the neighbours mentality.

To be fair now i would hardly call Galway a football super power considering they have only won 2 all irelands since the 60's.They are the most successful connacht county but that's hardly a great achievement.If i were a Galway man i would be more worried about beating a non connacht team first. ;)

Galway (9) - 1925, 1934, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1998, 2001.

Cork (7) - 1890, 1911, 1945, 1973, 1989, 1990, 2010.

ross matt

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 02, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
Quote from: Corcaigh Abu on June 02, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: ross matt on June 02, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 02, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 02, 2011, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 09:13:59 AM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 02, 2011, 12:58:44 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Why do I read about Kildare every year?

Because you buy a newspaper on an annual basis?


Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Who wakes up screaming thinking of Kildare?

I do......

Fair play to you Hollow, you're a scholar and a gentleman. I should point out that I've been to games in Laois, Kildare and Monaghan and I found the welcome warm and the football tremendous. It just gets on my wick when people in West lie down and are then totally mystified when they get walked on.

I think, Iolar, that we tend to overlook theh fact that players and supporters live in each others' shadows.
Unlike professional soccer and rugby players, our GAA lads are very much part of their own communities and  therefore react to the vibes they pick up from those around them. If the fans are happy, the team plays well. If the fans think their neighbour's child is a total waste of space and couldn't kick snow off a rope, the poor lad's confidence is going to be sorely dented.
It's a two-way process; a form of synergy if you like.
Far too often, I have seen brilliant games in venues from Salthilll to Carrick and left those grounds knowing  that the winners would never reproduce their form when they crossed the Shannon. Unlike draught  Guinness, Connacht players should not lose their best qualities when they travel  across water.  Yet, most times they do no matter where the crossing occurs.
I don't think players lose their talents when they venture outside Connacht but all too often they do lose their confidence and I put that down to the drop of expectations amongst their supporters. That's a generalisation I know but it does happen more often than not.

If Galway fuballers have a good team they can go all the way and being from Connacht doesn't come into it. This year's under 21 was a good example. They were underdogs against Cork but they had no fear of them and won the semi final and then the final was a walk in the park.

Ros and Mayo are the ones that tend to suffer from stage fright . They both had good under 21 teams recently but nothing came of them.    It must be all in the head. The Galway hurlers have a similar affliction at senior level but can still churn out the goods under age.

I can't bear to look at how many all-Ireland finals Mayo have lost in the last 20 years.   

Galway had the players to beat the likes of Sligo, Wexford and Westmeath in recent years but they were'nt able to do it. Explain that?

Roscommon won the Connacht u-21s last year so there was obviously nothing wrong with their heads then. They also won connacht senior and it was lack of ability not confidence in Croker that had them lose to eventual AI winners Cork. They won the 06 minor AI beating Kerry in a replay so your "stage fright" theory doesnt hold up then either. In Connacht that year they beat an excellent Galway side in  a  turn up for the books. The reverse happened the year after when Galway went on to win the minor AI.

This year the Ross u-21 side wasnt within an asses roar of what turned out to be an excellent AI winning Galway side. Again there was no mental issues.... Ross were outclassed physically and skilfully.

Roscommon held their own at senior v the Dubs in 04 and kerry in 03 with both matches in Croker.  The  90/91 sides were beaten by Meath and Cork in Croker in very competitive matches.

Cant think  of any "stage fright" scenarios in Croker that you refer to. You'd be better looking at facts rather than trading on soundbites and stereotypes.  Galway definitely have the ability to go up and win silverware from time to time but thats due to having had class players like Joyce/Donnellan & Co that Connacht winning Rossie sides never had.  That being said 2001 is drifting in to the distance. Might be better to wait till after the Mayo match at least before condescendingly commenting on the neighbours mentality.

To be fair now i would hardly call Galway a football super power considering they have only won 2 all irelands since the 60's.They are the most successful connacht county but that's hardly a great achievement.If i were a Galway man i would be more worried about beating a non connacht team first. ;)

Galway (9) - 1925, 1934, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1998, 2001.

Cork (7) - 1890, 1911, 1945, 1973, 1989, 1990, 2010.

No answer to that one in fairness!

ross matt

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 02, 2011, 06:00:26 PM
Seafoid are you related to Sylvie Linnane  by any chance?

As you too would start a riot in a graveyard. ;D

Too much credit to him. Stirring it would mean he knew what he was talking about instead of spouting shite he cant stand over.

Blowitupref

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 02, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
Quote from: Corcaigh Abu on June 02, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: ross matt on June 02, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 02, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 02, 2011, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 09:13:59 AM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 02, 2011, 12:58:44 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Why do I read about Kildare every year?

Because you buy a newspaper on an annual basis?


Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Who wakes up screaming thinking of Kildare?

I do......

Fair play to you Hollow, you're a scholar and a gentleman. I should point out that I've been to games in Laois, Kildare and Monaghan and I found the welcome warm and the football tremendous. It just gets on my wick when people in West lie down and are then totally mystified when they get walked on.

I think, Iolar, that we tend to overlook theh fact that players and supporters live in each others' shadows.
Unlike professional soccer and rugby players, our GAA lads are very much part of their own communities and  therefore react to the vibes they pick up from those around them. If the fans are happy, the team plays well. If the fans think their neighbour's child is a total waste of space and couldn't kick snow off a rope, the poor lad's confidence is going to be sorely dented.
It's a two-way process; a form of synergy if you like.
Far too often, I have seen brilliant games in venues from Salthilll to Carrick and left those grounds knowing  that the winners would never reproduce their form when they crossed the Shannon. Unlike draught  Guinness, Connacht players should not lose their best qualities when they travel  across water.  Yet, most times they do no matter where the crossing occurs.
I don't think players lose their talents when they venture outside Connacht but all too often they do lose their confidence and I put that down to the drop of expectations amongst their supporters. That's a generalisation I know but it does happen more often than not.

If Galway fuballers have a good team they can go all the way and being from Connacht doesn't come into it. This year's under 21 was a good example. They were underdogs against Cork but they had no fear of them and won the semi final and then the final was a walk in the park.

Ros and Mayo are the ones that tend to suffer from stage fright . They both had good under 21 teams recently but nothing came of them.    It must be all in the head. The Galway hurlers have a similar affliction at senior level but can still churn out the goods under age.

I can't bear to look at how many all-Ireland finals Mayo have lost in the last 20 years.   

Galway had the players to beat the likes of Sligo, Wexford and Westmeath in recent years but they were'nt able to do it. Explain that?

Roscommon won the Connacht u-21s last year so there was obviously nothing wrong with their heads then. They also won connacht senior and it was lack of ability not confidence in Croker that had them lose to eventual AI winners Cork. They won the 06 minor AI beating Kerry in a replay so your "stage fright" theory doesnt hold up then either. In Connacht that year they beat an excellent Galway side in  a  turn up for the books. The reverse happened the year after when Galway went on to win the minor AI.

This year the Ross u-21 side wasnt within an asses roar of what turned out to be an excellent AI winning Galway side. Again there was no mental issues.... Ross were outclassed physically and skilfully.

Roscommon held their own at senior v the Dubs in 04 and kerry in 03 with both matches in Croker.  The  90/91 sides were beaten by Meath and Cork in Croker in very competitive matches.

Cant think  of any "stage fright" scenarios in Croker that you refer to. You'd be better looking at facts rather than trading on soundbites and stereotypes.  Galway definitely have the ability to go up and win silverware from time to time but thats due to having had class players like Joyce/Donnellan & Co that Connacht winning Rossie sides never had.  That being said 2001 is drifting in to the distance. Might be better to wait till after the Mayo match at least before condescendingly commenting on the neighbours mentality.

To be fair now i would hardly call Galway a football super power considering they have only won 2 all irelands since the 60's.They are the most successful connacht county but that's hardly a great achievement.If i were a Galway man i would be more worried about beating a non connacht team first. ;)

Galway (9) - 1925, 1934, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1998, 2001.

Cork (7) - 1890, 1911, 1945, 1973, 1989, 1990, 2010.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Corcaigh Abu

#69
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 02, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
Quote from: Corcaigh Abu on June 02, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: ross matt on June 02, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 02, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 02, 2011, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 09:13:59 AM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 02, 2011, 12:58:44 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Why do I read about Kildare every year?

Because you buy a newspaper on an annual basis?


Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Who wakes up screaming thinking of Kildare?

I do......

Fair play to you Hollow, you're a scholar and a gentleman. I should point out that I've been to games in Laois, Kildare and Monaghan and I found the welcome warm and the football tremendous. It just gets on my wick when people in West lie down and are then totally mystified when they get walked on.

I think, Iolar, that we tend to overlook theh fact that players and supporters live in each others' shadows.
Unlike professional soccer and rugby players, our GAA lads are very much part of their own communities and  therefore react to the vibes they pick up from those around them. If the fans are happy, the team plays well. If the fans think their neighbour's child is a total waste of space and couldn't kick snow off a rope, the poor lad's confidence is going to be sorely dented.
It's a two-way process; a form of synergy if you like.
Far too often, I have seen brilliant games in venues from Salthilll to Carrick and left those grounds knowing  that the winners would never reproduce their form when they crossed the Shannon. Unlike draught  Guinness, Connacht players should not lose their best qualities when they travel  across water.  Yet, most times they do no matter where the crossing occurs.
I don't think players lose their talents when they venture outside Connacht but all too often they do lose their confidence and I put that down to the drop of expectations amongst their supporters. That's a generalisation I know but it does happen more often than not.

If Galway fuballers have a good team they can go all the way and being from Connacht doesn't come into it. This year's under 21 was a good example. They were underdogs against Cork but they had no fear of them and won the semi final and then the final was a walk in the park.

Ros and Mayo are the ones that tend to suffer from stage fright . They both had good under 21 teams recently but nothing came of them.    It must be all in the head. The Galway hurlers have a similar affliction at senior level but can still churn out the goods under age.

I can't bear to look at how many all-Ireland finals Mayo have lost in the last 20 years.   

Galway had the players to beat the likes of Sligo, Wexford and Westmeath in recent years but they were'nt able to do it. Explain that?

Roscommon won the Connacht u-21s last year so there was obviously nothing wrong with their heads then. They also won connacht senior and it was lack of ability not confidence in Croker that had them lose to eventual AI winners Cork. They won the 06 minor AI beating Kerry in a replay so your "stage fright" theory doesnt hold up then either. In Connacht that year they beat an excellent Galway side in  a  turn up for the books. The reverse happened the year after when Galway went on to win the minor AI.

This year the Ross u-21 side wasnt within an asses roar of what turned out to be an excellent AI winning Galway side. Again there was no mental issues.... Ross were outclassed physically and skilfully.

Roscommon held their own at senior v the Dubs in 04 and kerry in 03 with both matches in Croker.  The  90/91 sides were beaten by Meath and Cork in Croker in very competitive matches.

Cant think  of any "stage fright" scenarios in Croker that you refer to. You'd be better looking at facts rather than trading on soundbites and stereotypes.  Galway definitely have the ability to go up and win silverware from time to time but thats due to having had class players like Joyce/Donnellan & Co that Connacht winning Rossie sides never had.  That being said 2001 is drifting in to the distance. Might be better to wait till after the Mayo match at least before condescendingly commenting on the neighbours mentality.

To be fair now i would hardly call Galway a football super power considering they have only won 2 all irelands since the 60's.They are the most successful connacht county but that's hardly a great achievement.If i were a Galway man i would be more worried about beating a non connacht team first. ;)

Galway (9) - 1925, 1934, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1998, 2001.

Cork (7) - 1890, 1911, 1945, 1973, 1989, 1990, 2010.

Ahem Cork 120 All Irelands across all codes of the GAA Galway 47. You are the second biggest county in ireland and ye don't even have as many all irelands as we have. ;) And we have only lost to Kerry in croke park in the championship since 04.Galway can't buy a win there for love nor money in recent years.
Roses Are Red,Violets Are Blue,We have 120 All Irelands, How Many Have You?

ross4life

Is their a rational reason why a Cork man is trying to wind up the Galway lads? or is this another reincarnation of PSTG??
The key to success is to be consistently competitive -- if you bang on the door often it will open

Corcaigh Abu

Quote from: ross4life on June 02, 2011, 08:51:57 PM
Is their a rational reason why a Cork man is trying to wind up the Galway lads? or is this another reincarnation of PSTG??

Fair play they have more senior football all irelands than us but they don't have as many as us across all codes of the gaa.No winding up just stating facts. ;D
Roses Are Red,Violets Are Blue,We have 120 All Irelands, How Many Have You?

GaillimhIarthair

Quote from: Corcaigh Abu on June 02, 2011, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 02, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
Quote from: Corcaigh Abu on June 02, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: ross matt on June 02, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 02, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 02, 2011, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 09:13:59 AM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 02, 2011, 12:58:44 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Why do I read about Kildare every year?

Because you buy a newspaper on an annual basis?


Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Who wakes up screaming thinking of Kildare?

I do......

Fair play to you Hollow, you're a scholar and a gentleman. I should point out that I've been to games in Laois, Kildare and Monaghan and I found the welcome warm and the football tremendous. It just gets on my wick when people in West lie down and are then totally mystified when they get walked on.

I think, Iolar, that we tend to overlook theh fact that players and supporters live in each others' shadows.
Unlike professional soccer and rugby players, our GAA lads are very much part of their own communities and  therefore react to the vibes they pick up from those around them. If the fans are happy, the team plays well. If the fans think their neighbour's child is a total waste of space and couldn't kick snow off a rope, the poor lad's confidence is going to be sorely dented.
It's a two-way process; a form of synergy if you like.
Far too often, I have seen brilliant games in venues from Salthilll to Carrick and left those grounds knowing  that the winners would never reproduce their form when they crossed the Shannon. Unlike draught  Guinness, Connacht players should not lose their best qualities when they travel  across water.  Yet, most times they do no matter where the crossing occurs.
I don't think players lose their talents when they venture outside Connacht but all too often they do lose their confidence and I put that down to the drop of expectations amongst their supporters. That's a generalisation I know but it does happen more often than not.

If Galway fuballers have a good team they can go all the way and being from Connacht doesn't come into it. This year's under 21 was a good example. They were underdogs against Cork but they had no fear of them and won the semi final and then the final was a walk in the park.

Ros and Mayo are the ones that tend to suffer from stage fright . They both had good under 21 teams recently but nothing came of them.    It must be all in the head. The Galway hurlers have a similar affliction at senior level but can still churn out the goods under age.

I can't bear to look at how many all-Ireland finals Mayo have lost in the last 20 years.   

Galway had the players to beat the likes of Sligo, Wexford and Westmeath in recent years but they were'nt able to do it. Explain that?

Roscommon won the Connacht u-21s last year so there was obviously nothing wrong with their heads then. They also won connacht senior and it was lack of ability not confidence in Croker that had them lose to eventual AI winners Cork. They won the 06 minor AI beating Kerry in a replay so your "stage fright" theory doesnt hold up then either. In Connacht that year they beat an excellent Galway side in  a  turn up for the books. The reverse happened the year after when Galway went on to win the minor AI.

This year the Ross u-21 side wasnt within an asses roar of what turned out to be an excellent AI winning Galway side. Again there was no mental issues.... Ross were outclassed physically and skilfully.

Roscommon held their own at senior v the Dubs in 04 and kerry in 03 with both matches in Croker.  The  90/91 sides were beaten by Meath and Cork in Croker in very competitive matches.

Cant think  of any "stage fright" scenarios in Croker that you refer to. You'd be better looking at facts rather than trading on soundbites and stereotypes.  Galway definitely have the ability to go up and win silverware from time to time but thats due to having had class players like Joyce/Donnellan & Co that Connacht winning Rossie sides never had.  That being said 2001 is drifting in to the distance. Might be better to wait till after the Mayo match at least before condescendingly commenting on the neighbours mentality.

To be fair now i would hardly call Galway a football super power considering they have only won 2 all irelands since the 60's.They are the most successful connacht county but that's hardly a great achievement.If i were a Galway man i would be more worried about beating a non connacht team first. ;)

Galway (9) - 1925, 1934, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1998, 2001.

Cork (7) - 1890, 1911, 1945, 1973, 1989, 1990, 2010.

Ahem Cork 120 All Irelands across all codes of the GAA Galway 47. You are the second biggest county in ireland and ye don't even have as many all irelands as we have. ;) And we have only lost to Kerry in croke park in the championship since 04.Galway can't buy a win there for love nor money in recent years.
And I doubt we will get a win there either this year but sure our time will come again at some stage when we have a good enough team.  Anyway, its seems unusual for a Youghal man to be getting worked up about football.  Hurling would be the staple diet in that neck of the woods, no?

Corcaigh Abu

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Why do I read about Kildare every year?

Because you buy a newspaper on an annual basis?


Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on June 02, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Who wakes up screaming thinking of Kildare?

I do......

Fair play to you Hollow, you're a scholar and a gentleman. I should point out that I've been to games in Laois, Kildare and Monaghan and I found the welcome warm and the football tremendous. It just gets on my wick when people in West lie down and are then totally mystified when they get walked on.

I think, Iolar, that we tend to overlook theh fact that players and supporters live in each others' shadows.
Unlike professional soccer and rugby players, our GAA lads are very much part of their own communities and  therefore react to the vibes they pick up from those around them. If the fans are happy, the team plays well. If the fans think their neighbour's child is a total waste of space and couldn't kick snow off a rope, the poor lad's confidence is going to be sorely dented.
It's a two-way process; a form of synergy if you like.
Far too often, I have seen brilliant games in venues from Salthilll to Carrick and left those grounds knowing  that the winners would never reproduce their form when they crossed the Shannon. Unlike draught  Guinness, Connacht players should not lose their best qualities when they travel  across water.  Yet, most times they do no matter where the crossing occurs.
I don't think players lose their talents when they venture outside Connacht but all too often they do lose their confidence and I put that down to the drop of expectations amongst their supporters. That's a generalisation I know but it does happen more often than not.

If Galway fuballers have a good team they can go all the way and being from Connacht doesn't come into it. This year's under 21 was a good example. They were underdogs against Cork but they had no fear of them and won the semi final and then the final was a walk in the park.

Ros and Mayo are the ones that tend to suffer from stage fright . They both had good under 21 teams recently but nothing came of them.    It must be all in the head. The Galway hurlers have a similar affliction at senior level but can still churn out the goods under age.

I can't bear to look at how many all-Ireland finals Mayo have lost in the last 20 years.   

Galway had the players to beat the likes of Sligo, Wexford and Westmeath in recent years but they were'nt able to do it. Explain that?

Roscommon won the Connacht u-21s last year so there was obviously nothing wrong with their heads then. They also won connacht senior and it was lack of ability not confidence in Croker that had them lose to eventual AI winners Cork. They won the 06 minor AI beating Kerry in a replay so your "stage fright" theory doesnt hold up then either. In Connacht that year they beat an excellent Galway side in  a  turn up for the books. The reverse happened the year after when Galway went on to win the minor AI.

This year the Ross u-21 side wasnt within an asses roar of what turned out to be an excellent AI winning Galway side. Again there was no mental issues.... Ross were outclassed physically and skilfully.

Roscommon held their own at senior v the Dubs in 04 and kerry in 03 with both matches in Croker.  The  90/91 sides were beaten by Meath and Cork in Croker in very competitive matches.

Cant think  of any "stage fright" scenarios in Croker that you refer to. You'd be better looking at facts rather than trading on soundbites and stereotypes.  Galway definitely have the ability to go up and win silverware from time to time but thats due to having had class players like Joyce/Donnellan & Co that Connacht winning Rossie sides never had.  That being said 2001 is drifting in to the distance. Might be better to wait till after the Mayo match at least before condescendingly commenting on the neighbours mentality.

To be fair now i would hardly call Galway a football super power considering they have only won 2 all irelands since the 60's.They are the most successful connacht county but that's hardly a great achievement.If i were a Galway man i would be more worried about beating a non connacht team first. ;)

Galway (9) - 1925, 1934, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1998, 2001.

Cork (7) - 1890, 1911, 1945, 1973, 1989, 1990, 2010.

Ahem Cork 120 All Irelands across all codes of the GAA Galway 47. You are the second biggest county in ireland and ye don't even have as many all irelands as we have. ;) And we have only lost to Kerry in croke park in the championship since 04.Galway can't buy a win there for love nor money in recent years.
And I doubt we will get a win there either this year but sure our time will come again at some stage when we have a good enough team.  Anyway, its seems unusual for a Youghal man to be getting worked up about football.  Hurling would be the staple diet in that neck of the woods, no?

That's right im from the very far end of the hurling part of Cork but i like all Cork teams.I was there in Croke Park when we lost to Fermanagh in 04.Now going back to the matter at hand i will give a hesitant nod to Mayo but i wouldn't be surprised if Galway pull it off.
Roses Are Red,Violets Are Blue,We have 120 All Irelands, How Many Have You?

seafoid

I was so happy that Cork won that all Ireland last year . That team had been trying for so long.