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tyrone08

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« Reply #210 on: May 25, 2023, 08:15:01 PM »
The whole thing is pointless really. Anyone who has coached kids will know that regardless of counting scores the kids will know themselves who won or who "lost".

Losing and how to react to it is a vital life skill and teaching kids early will help them develop into resilient adults.

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« Reply #211 on: May 25, 2023, 08:16:21 PM »
Or if their team is crap and lose all their games then they’ll grow up losers  ;D
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« Reply #212 on: May 25, 2023, 08:26:24 PM »
Or if their team is crap and lose all their games then they’ll grow up losers  ;D
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« Reply #213 on: May 26, 2023, 01:02:30 AM »
The whole thing is pointless really. Anyone who has coached kids will know that regardless of counting scores the kids will know themselves who won or who "lost".

Losing and how to react to it is a vital life skill and teaching kids early will help them develop into resilient adults.

That's all well and good, and of course the kids will know, but if there are no official results, then the club doesn't need to pick the stronger players at the expense of the weaker ones. They can all play and develop and learn.
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« Reply #214 on: May 26, 2023, 09:33:43 AM »
Would picking 'weaker' players instead of 'stronger' players not lead to disillusionment amongst the latter.

I know from personal experience that losing more talented players is at least as common as losing less talented people.

I've known people who were taken off in an U16 match who never kicked a ball again. I know players who are togging out for 20 years and who wouldn't start a game more than once a year. 

All of these things have f all squared to do with whether games are competitive at U12. As usual the GAA are making decisions on the hoof, on the scantiest of anecdotal evidence by the looks of things, and without a single thought as to what the detrimental effects could be.

Its like the shitshow that moving to U17s proved to be.

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« Reply #215 on: May 27, 2023, 12:31:15 AM »
Twitter has been an interesting read the past few days.

There’s a lot of adults in Ireland that truly detest how their GAA clubs/mentors treated them as youngsters.

There’s just something doesn’t sit right about this blame game with me.

I was the most mediocre footballer / athlete who walked this earth. I was dropped more times than I can remember. Turned up for a bucket load of matches when I knew I wouldn’t play. Threw the toys out of the pram once or twice, when I should have played. But I loved playing football, and blamed nobody but myself for not making teams… and then stuck at it til I was 43.

I’m not sure about this “I was never given a chance” mentality that pervades these conversations. Try harder folks.

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« Reply #216 on: May 27, 2023, 03:46:15 AM »
The problem at underage games is some parents at games plus some of the people managing these teams,  Non-Competive at this level is fine enough.

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« Reply #217 on: May 27, 2023, 10:29:04 AM »
Twitter has been an interesting read the past few days.

There’s a lot of adults in Ireland that truly detest how their GAA clubs/mentors treated them as youngsters.

There’s just something doesn’t sit right about this blame game with me.

I was the most mediocre footballer / athlete who walked this earth. I was dropped more times than I can remember. Turned up for a bucket load of matches when I knew I wouldn’t play. Threw the toys out of the pram once or twice, when I should have played. But I loved playing football, and blamed nobody but myself for not making teams… and then stuck at it til I was 43.

I’m not sure about this “I was never given a chance” mentality that pervades these conversations. Try harder folks.

There’s a level that you are actually at and then there’s a level that you think you are at… anyone that had a decent work ethic or ability got on, anyone who didn’t usually fitted into the team that suited their abilities or work ethic.

People looking back complaining about how they were treated in relation to their game time needs to have a word with himself.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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« Reply #218 on: May 27, 2023, 11:39:59 AM »
Would picking 'weaker' players instead of 'stronger' players not lead to disillusionment amongst the latter.

I know from personal experience that losing more talented players is at least as common as losing less talented people.

I've known people who were taken off in an U16 match who never kicked a ball again. I know players who are togging out for 20 years and who wouldn't start a game more than once a year. 

All of these things have f all squared to do with whether games are competitive at U12. As usual the GAA are making decisions on the hoof, on the scantiest of anecdotal evidence by the looks of things, and without a single thought as to what the detrimental effects could be.

Its like the shitshow that moving to U17s proved to be.

Do you realise there has been literally nothing changed this wee from Croke Park - how parents and clubs apply that is on them surely?

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« Reply #219 on: May 27, 2023, 12:02:00 PM »
Twitter has been an interesting read the past few days.

There’s a lot of adults in Ireland that truly detest how their GAA clubs/mentors treated them as youngsters.

There’s just something doesn’t sit right about this blame game with me.

I was the most mediocre footballer / athlete who walked this earth. I was dropped more times than I can remember. Turned up for a bucket load of matches when I knew I wouldn’t play. Threw the toys out of the pram once or twice, when I should have played. But I loved playing football, and blamed nobody but myself for not making teams… and then stuck at it til I was 43.

I’m not sure about this “I was never given a chance” mentality that pervades these conversations. Try harder folks.

There’s a level that you are actually at and then there’s a level that you think you are at… anyone that had a decent work ethic or ability got on, anyone who didn’t usually fitted into the team that suited their abilities or work ethic.

People looking back complaining about how they were treated in relation to their game time needs to have a word with himself.

Some people looking at this issue through the prism of their own youth - some positive and some not so positive.

Yeah, the kids that usually got/get on were the kids who always have a ball or hurl in their hands.  Simple as.  You can see it.  Other lads just turn up an hour every week for training.

In my experience, the parents' of these kids are the first ones to complain in there's a wee competition and their son is in the other team.

I think the GAA must do a proper study on underage competition, through various academic studies and see what the best option is and what best practice is.  Not sure if there's much research out there but it needs looked at.

My option is Go Games of mixed abilities all the way through from February to August, then say a few tournaments in September. 

 

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« Reply #220 on: May 27, 2023, 12:12:32 PM »
They have done that Marty - and Go Games was developed as the best practice!