six county elections 05/05/2011

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gallsman

Quote from: Minder on May 07, 2011, 07:24:37 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on May 07, 2011, 06:52:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 07, 2011, 06:40:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 07, 2011, 06:37:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 07, 2011, 05:08:52 PM
Tom Elliott at the count - "flags of a foreign land" and "Sinn Fein scum"  :o

Just seen that on BBC site. What an arsehole.
Kept at it when Paul Clark interviewed him afterwards. He said of Gerry Kelly "an ex-IRA man, well he could still be in it for all I know". In fairness Nigel Dodds agreed with him about the "foreign flag".

In fairness????????  Dodds didn t condemn the 'scum'statement. Got out of it by suggesting there may have been provacation beforehand, He had no reason to suggesting that at all.

Will  probably congrat the Fermanagh munchie at Stormont next week

The point I was making was Nigel Dodds wouldn't be a kick in the hole from someone like Elliott in terms of views but it will be lost in the furore over Elliott. Him and Gerry Kelly can sit and congratulate each other all they want and play great mates, and some are taken in by it, but Dodds is the sort that would like to spend his life with his boot on the neck of a Catholic.

His seat will be coming under pressure in the years to come. Natural response of any Unionist beginning to feel the heat is to try and go back in time and further to the right.

Maguire01

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 07, 2011, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: amallon on May 07, 2011, 06:06:26 PM
Elliot is toast

And the UUP are meant to be the moderate face of unionism. :D
The problem for him is that the DUP has moved firmly into the centre-ground, so he has nowhere to go.

Maguire01

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 07, 2011, 07:04:25 PM
Let this fool no-one, the vast majority of Unionists want to see the nationalist people back in the 70s with no say, no rights and no chance.

Yes I know Evil Genius will reply with 10 different replies to my statement in nought point three seconds, just like he has commented on Elliots behaviour (yeah right)  ::)
I don't believe for a minute that the 'vast majority' would hold that opinion. And that's on the basis of Unionists who i've studied/worked/socialised with. I'd consider that to be a ridiculously sweeping statement.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Maguire01 on May 07, 2011, 07:38:59 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 07, 2011, 07:04:25 PM
Let this fool no-one, the vast majority of Unionists want to see the nationalist people back in the 70s with no say, no rights and no chance.

Yes I know Evil Genius will reply with 10 different replies to my statement in nought point three seconds, just like he has commented on Elliots behaviour (yeah right)  ::)
I don't believe for a minute that the 'vast majority' would hold that opinion. And that's on the basis of Unionists who i've studied/worked/socialised with. I'd consider that to be a ridiculously sweeping statement.

Do you know many prods then Spirit??
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

the colonel

Oliver McMullan SF elected in East Antrim. big big result for sinners
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Minder

Quote from: the colonel on May 07, 2011, 08:34:17 PM
Oliver McMullan SF elected in East Antrim. big big result for sinners

That will bring a smile to his face.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Minder on May 07, 2011, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: the colonel on May 07, 2011, 08:34:17 PM
Oliver McMullan SF elected in East Antrim. big big result for sinners

That will bring a smile to his face.

They never came round my house to take me to the polling station
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Maguire01

SDLP get back a seat in West Tyrone. So it looks like being down 2 seats from last time. Given that the losses in FST, Strangford, Nth Antrim and Sth Antrim were very narrow (surprisingly narrow in Nth Antrim, a seat which had pretty much been written off) and that the percentage held up on such a low turnout, they might conisder themselves unlucky. Or wonder if a better performance on the leaders' debates may have swung a few crucial votes.

SF steady, but no mission of a SF First Minister in the next 10 years with the DUP retaining a comanding lead and the TUV project as good as finished. The UUP is utterly headless and Tom's outburst is going to be one of the big news stories from this election. It's going to make it very uncomfortable for the UUP's moderates such as McCallister, McCrea and Nesbitt, because they're all likely to be cornered on it.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Maguire01 on May 07, 2011, 08:38:42 PM
SDLP get back a seat in West Tyrone. So it looks like being down 2 seats from last time. Given that the losses in FST, Strangford, Nth Antrim and Sth Antrim were very narrow (surprisingly narrow in Nth Antrim, a seat which had pretty much been written off) and that the percentage held up on such a low turnout, they might conisder themselves unlucky. Or wonder if a better performance on the leaders' debates may have swung a few crucial votes.

SF steady, but no mission of a SF First Minister in the next 10 years with the DUP retaining a comanding lead and the TUV project as good as finished. The UUP is utterly headless and Tom's outburst is going to be one of the big news stories from this election. It's going to make it very uncomfortable for the UUP's moderates such as McCallister, McCrea and Nesbitt, because they're all likely to be cornered on it.

The UUP has done a great job of making fools of themselves today, Tom Elliot is in the wrong party and Jim Allister will be giving him a ring to see if he can switch sides, if not the BNP will certainly take him, though he may be a bit radical for them
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

trileacman

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 07, 2011, 07:04:25 PM
Let this fool no-one, the vast majority of Unionists want to see the nationalist people back in the 70s with no say, no rights and no chance.

Yes I know Evil Genius will reply with 10 different replies to my statement in nought point three seconds, just like he has commented on Elliots behaviour (yeah right)  ::)

That is a very sweeping statement. The only fool is yourself. As Maguire said the vast majority of Unionists I have encountered tend to be good, well meaning people. I'd say a damn site less than 25% would envisage a nationalist under-class as you describe. Many of the Unionists/Protestants that encounter nationalists on a day to day basis would be sound enough. It is the ones who live in E. Belfast, Craigavon, Portadown, the Protestant garrison towns, that would hold the view that nationalists are a threat.
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Quote from: Maguire01 on May 07, 2011, 07:38:59 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 07, 2011, 07:04:25 PM
Let this fool no-one, the vast majority of Unionists want to see the nationalist people back in the 70s with no say, no rights and no chance.

Yes I know Evil Genius will reply with 10 different replies to my statement in nought point three seconds, just like he has commented on Elliots behaviour (yeah right)  ::)
I don't believe for a minute that the 'vast majority' would hold that opinion. And that's on the basis of Unionists who i've studied/worked/socialised with. I'd consider that to be a ridiculously sweeping statement.
+1

Square Ball

anyone see the interview with the shinner this afternoon when he finished it with the classic quote of "keep it lit"
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

Minder

Quote from: Maguire01 on May 07, 2011, 08:38:42 PM
SDLP get back a seat in West Tyrone. So it looks like being down 2 seats from last time. Given that the losses in FST, Strangford, Nth Antrim and Sth Antrim were very narrow (surprisingly narrow in Nth Antrim, a seat which had pretty much been written off) and that the percentage held up on such a low turnout, they might conisder themselves unlucky. Or wonder if a better performance on the leaders' debates may have swung a few crucial votes.

SF steady, but no mission of a SF First Minister in the next 10 years with the DUP retaining a comanding lead and the TUV project as good as finished. The UUP is utterly headless and Tom's outburst is going to be one of the big news stories from this election. It's going to make it very uncomfortable for the UUP's moderates such as McCallister, McCrea and Nesbitt, because they're all likely to be cornered on it.

Declan O'Loan was badly hampered by the boundary changes, in particular places like Waterfoot and Cushendall being absorbed into East Antrim.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

omagh_gael

Quote from: Square Ball on May 07, 2011, 08:55:42 PM
anyone see the interview with the shinner this afternoon when he finished it with the classic quote of "keep it lit"

Yeah, it was Barry McElduff. Very funny interview. The best part was that his visual had finished but the audio still played on with him just squeezing in his "keep 'er lit" finale.

Maguire01

Quote from: Minder on May 07, 2011, 08:58:43 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 07, 2011, 08:38:42 PM
SDLP get back a seat in West Tyrone. So it looks like being down 2 seats from last time. Given that the losses in FST, Strangford, Nth Antrim and Sth Antrim were very narrow (surprisingly narrow in Nth Antrim, a seat which had pretty much been written off) and that the percentage held up on such a low turnout, they might conisder themselves unlucky. Or wonder if a better performance on the leaders' debates may have swung a few crucial votes.

SF steady, but no mission of a SF First Minister in the next 10 years with the DUP retaining a comanding lead and the TUV project as good as finished. The UUP is utterly headless and Tom's outburst is going to be one of the big news stories from this election. It's going to make it very uncomfortable for the UUP's moderates such as McCallister, McCrea and Nesbitt, because they're all likely to be cornered on it.

Declan O'Loan was badly hampered by the boundary changes, in particular places like Waterfoot and Cushendall being absorbed into East Antrim.
That's my point - the fact that he was still in contention for the 6th seat was an achievement in itself. The fact that it went to McAllister makes it all the more depressing.