Allianz Hurling League 2011 - Roinn 1

[Denn Forever]

Still it is a massive achievment and watch now for the D4 bandwaggon to inflate faster than the Leinster rugby one.

But D16 will be the driver.

[Reillers]

I like most gave Dublin no chance.

What you mean is that you gave Dublin no chance, the odds have reduced a lot from 40/1 for them as in the post below since the start of the league. I have seen Cats teams play when on the day no team would beat them, the last example was their four in a row All-Ireland and they humming like a sewing machine. Yesterday was Dublin's day.

Yesterday after the game in the car park of Clonliffe college was talking to a group of Kilkenny supporters who were simply dumbstruck with the Dublin performance. I have heard moaning about the kick pass being gone from football, yesterday Dublin were striking exquisite passes, some fifty yards, some short with the hurls that doesn't come from lying in ice baths in La Manga, it comes from ball work. It comes from answering the call to get up at 6am in the morning for training that Daly made to sort out the men from the boys, after which as the captain said yesterday, they had 35 players in training sessions each of who gave his all. Surely someone must have noticed yesterday the massive improvement in skill levels, getting the ball up in the hand at first touch, not being bullied off the ball and coming out with the ball from close quarter melees?

The book by Christy O'Connor "The Club" tells me a little bit about Anthony Daly, it is a very short part of a chapter but nevertheless it tells me all I want to know about him as does the camaraderie and bite he has put into this team and what it tells me is that come the championship, Dublin will have earned the respect to be treated with as much caution as anyone else on a given day. By achieving that they have done all I ever wanted to see them doing, restoring an interest in hurling in Dublin and put more hurls in kids hands and they did that yesterday.

Isn't that what I just said?

I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying.

I think that in the big picture it wont mean a lot for the championship when things get serious, teams will push on a lot, the likes of KK and Tipp have those other gears that the top teams are able to find come July/August, but I think Dublin has pushed on as much as they will for this season and might get a quarter/semi final, I would be very, very surprised to see them get any further than that.
Clearly they have the potential to improve in the coming years. But I think come Championship day, Kilkenny will up it again, and if they played again in a few weeks, it'd probably be an entirely different story.

And hurleys, for the love of god please use hurley not "hurl".

[AZOffaly]

We say "hurls" in the midlands.

[Reillers]

We say "hurls" in the midlands.

I know but it's still awful. It's a hurley. HURLEY!!

Most Dubs have never seen hurleys anyway. There's no harm in starting right and letting them continue on with it. 

[deiseach]

We say "hurls" in the midlands.

They say hurls in Wexford too. There doesn't seem to be any pattern to it

[Reillers]

We say "hurls" in the midlands.

They say hurls in Wexford too. There doesn't seem to be any pattern to it

Most of Leinster say it to be fair.

[Bud Wiser]

We say "hurls" in the midlands.

I know but it's still awful. It's a hurley. HURLEY!!

Most Dubs have never seen hurleys anyway. There's no harm in starting right and letting them continue on with it. 

Well I have been calling them hurls for the last 50 years so Im not going to stop now.  More Dubs saw hurleys this year than Cork supporters anyway and another thing, they gave interviews to TV without having Guinness or some sponsor emblazoned down the handle or looking for a few grand.

[heffo]

We say "hurls" in the midlands.

I know but it's still awful. It's a hurley. HURLEY!!

Most Dubs have never seen hurleys anyway. There's no harm in starting right and letting them continue on with it. 

Jaysus Reillers you're a patronising aul bollo*!. All those months with nothing but a picture of Sean Óg, a flaggelation whip and a darkened room for company have obviously warped your mind!.

Where would you see the standings in Hurling lying now - Tipp at the top obviously but where work Cork fit in in your mind?

There won't be any D4 bandwagon with Hurling, can't speak about any Leinster Rugby bandwagon, but if it's anything as good as the Munster one, the IRFU will be doing well.

Very happy with yesterday's result - it'll provide a huge boost to Hurling in Dublin.

The focus has to switch to the Championship opener v Offaly now - I'd expect it to be switched away from Parnell - Offaly will be delighted  will all these headlines.

[Milltown Row2]

Yeah no doubt Offaly will be relishing the fact that Dublin are the league winners after beating Kilkenny at Headquarters. Offaly will be going into the game knowing they have no inferiority complex with Dublin and think at any time they should be beating Dublin, Antrim have it and so do a lot of other teams.

Dublin will have to apply the same effort to every match otherwise they will get beat. But watching them and hearing the speech afterwards, Dublin seemed to have matured a bit. They are certainly a decent team and in the top 5 at the minute. If they really turn it on then who knows, on their day they can and have this season, beaten the main teams (bar Galway).

I watched them in Croke (thanks again Bud Wiser) against Tipp and they were at a good level then. Would be strange heading to Croke this September seeing Dublin lining out for an All Ireland, in hurling

If that were the case I'd need to get my request for tickets in early (Bud)

[Reillers]

We say "hurls" in the midlands.

I know but it's still awful. It's a hurley. HURLEY!!

Most Dubs have never seen hurleys anyway. There's no harm in starting right and letting them continue on with it. 

Jaysus Reillers you're a patronising aul bollo*!. All those months with nothing but a picture of Sean Óg, a flaggelation whip and a darkened room for company have obviously warped your mind!.

Where would you see the standings in Hurling lying now - Tipp at the top obviously but where work Cork fit in in your mind?

There won't be any D4 bandwagon with Hurling, can't speak about any Leinster Rugby bandwagon, but if it's anything as good as the Munster one, the IRFU will be doing well.

Very happy with yesterday's result - it'll provide a huge boost to Hurling in Dublin.

The focus has to switch to the Championship opener v Offaly now - I'd expect it to be switched away from Parnell - Offaly will be delighted  will all these headlines.

Oh is it Dublin you're from today?
If you're a Dub, (apparently) than why would you not know anything about Leinster, but you would about Munster. I suppose you are one of those "lunster fans".

I'll tell you where everyone is at come championship time. It's been a long year and it'll be interesting to see where everyone is at. 

And I wouldn't write off Offaly at all.

[heffo]

We say "hurls" in the midlands.

I know but it's still awful. It's a hurley. HURLEY!!

Most Dubs have never seen hurleys anyway. There's no harm in starting right and letting them continue on with it. 

Jaysus Reillers you're a patronising aul bollo*!. All those months with nothing but a picture of Sean Óg, a flaggelation whip and a darkened room for company have obviously warped your mind!.

Where would you see the standings in Hurling lying now - Tipp at the top obviously but where work Cork fit in in your mind?

There won't be any D4 bandwagon with Hurling, can't speak about any Leinster Rugby bandwagon, but if it's anything as good as the Munster one, the IRFU will be doing well.

Very happy with yesterday's result - it'll provide a huge boost to Hurling in Dublin.

The focus has to switch to the Championship opener v Offaly now - I'd expect it to be switched away from Parnell - Offaly will be delighted  will all these headlines.

Oh is it Dublin you're from today?
If you're a Dub, (apparently) than why would you not know anything about Leinster, but you would about Munster. I suppose you are one of those "lunster fans".

I'll tell you where everyone is at come championship time. It's been a long year and it'll be interesting to see where everyone is at. 

And I wouldn't write off Offaly at all.

I'm born and reared in Dublin Reillers and have never claimed to be from anywhere else - so I'm a little confused by your comments above.

I don't claim to know much about anything but I have friends and in-laws from Munster (your Bishopstown clubmate Bob Honohan for one) and they tell me about the two men and a dog watching Munster not so long ago and I can compare that with the current attendances - anyway, that's a matter for the IRFU and not something I'm overly concerned with.

Surely you can stick your neck out and give a frank subjective assesment of where teams stand as of now - sure anyone can tell you after the championship is over.

[Reillers]

Yeah no doubt Offaly will be relishing the fact that Dublin are the league winners after beating Kilkenny at Headquarters. Offaly will be going into the game knowing they have no inferiority complex with Dublin and think at any time they should be beating Dublin, Antrim have it and so do a lot of other teams.

Dublin will have to apply the same effort to every match otherwise they will get beat. But watching them and hearing the speech afterwards, Dublin seemed to have matured a bit. They are certainly a decent team and in the top 5 at the minute. If they really turn it on then who knows, on their day they can and have this season, beaten the main teams (bar Galway).

I watched them in Croke (thanks again Bud Wiser) against Tipp and they were at a good level then. Would be strange heading to Croke this September seeing Dublin lining out for an All Ireland, in hurling

If that were the case I'd need to get my request for tickets in early (Bud)

It's not just a question of Dublin keeping up that level of an effort. It's the case of their opposition upping theirs. What we saw from Dublin is probably as much as they can give. But all the other teams have more to give. More gears to go to.

They did very well to get to where they've gotten but I wouldn't be buying my final ticket yet.

[heffo]

Yeah no doubt Offaly will be relishing the fact that Dublin are the league winners after beating Kilkenny at Headquarters. Offaly will be going into the game knowing they have no inferiority complex with Dublin and think at any time they should be beating Dublin, Antrim have it and so do a lot of other teams.

Dublin will have to apply the same effort to every match otherwise they will get beat. But watching them and hearing the speech afterwards, Dublin seemed to have matured a bit. They are certainly a decent team and in the top 5 at the minute. If they really turn it on then who knows, on their day they can and have this season, beaten the main teams (bar Galway).

I watched them in Croke (thanks again Bud Wiser) against Tipp and they were at a good level then. Would be strange heading to Croke this September seeing Dublin lining out for an All Ireland, in hurling

If that were the case I'd need to get my request for tickets in early (Bud)

What we saw from Dublin is probably as much as they can give. But all the other teams have more to give. More gears to go to.

How many points would Cork beat Dublin by in the Championship Reillers?

[Milltown Row2]

Yeah no doubt Offaly will be relishing the fact that Dublin are the league winners after beating Kilkenny at Headquarters. Offaly will be going into the game knowing they have no inferiority complex with Dublin and think at any time they should be beating Dublin, Antrim have it and so do a lot of other teams.

Dublin will have to apply the same effort to every match otherwise they will get beat. But watching them and hearing the speech afterwards, Dublin seemed to have matured a bit. They are certainly a decent team and in the top 5 at the minute. If they really turn it on then who knows, on their day they can and have this season, beaten the main teams (bar Galway).

I watched them in Croke (thanks again Bud Wiser) against Tipp and they were at a good level then. Would be strange heading to Croke this September seeing Dublin lining out for an All Ireland, in hurling

If that were the case I'd need to get my request for tickets in early (Bud)

It's not just a question of Dublin keeping up that level of an effort. It's the case of their opposition upping theirs. What we saw from Dublin is probably as much as they can give. But all the other teams have more to give. More gears to go to.

They did very well to get to where they've gotten but I wouldn't be buying my final ticket yet.

obviously we can only go on what we have seen so far, and to be fair any team that beats Cork in Cork can be considered a decent team, last team to do that in Championship was Tipp and they went on to win the All Ireland.

With another few weeks of training, challenge matches and with a couple of players still to come back from injury Dublin still have ability to improve. I think Daly will have learnt from last year (against us) that you need to have a high tempo for all games. Kilkenny may win Leinster this year and Dublin will have to take the longer route, but if Dublin won Leinster then I think they could get into a All Ireland final. by doing so they will have to beat Galway and Kilkenny plus a strong semi final team. That would be some feat, Possibly a bit early to do that

[heffo]

Yeah no doubt Offaly will be relishing the fact that Dublin are the league winners after beating Kilkenny at Headquarters. Offaly will be going into the game knowing they have no inferiority complex with Dublin and think at any time they should be beating Dublin, Antrim have it and so do a lot of other teams.

Dublin will have to apply the same effort to every match otherwise they will get beat. But watching them and hearing the speech afterwards, Dublin seemed to have matured a bit. They are certainly a decent team and in the top 5 at the minute. If they really turn it on then who knows, on their day they can and have this season, beaten the main teams (bar Galway).

I watched them in Croke (thanks again Bud Wiser) against Tipp and they were at a good level then. Would be strange heading to Croke this September seeing Dublin lining out for an All Ireland, in hurling

If that were the case I'd need to get my request for tickets in early (Bud)

It's not just a question of Dublin keeping up that level of an effort. It's the case of their opposition upping theirs. What we saw from Dublin is probably as much as they can give. But all the other teams have more to give. More gears to go to.

They did very well to get to where they've gotten but I wouldn't be buying my final ticket yet.

obviously we can only go on what we have seen so far, and to be fair any team that beats Cork in Cork can be considered a decent team, last team to do that in Championship was Tipp and they went on to win the All Ireland.

With another few weeks of training, challenge matches and with a couple of players still to come back from injury Dublin still have ability to improve. I think Daly will have learnt from last year (against us) that you need to have a high tempo for all games. Kilkenny may win Leinster this year and Dublin will have to take the longer route, but if Dublin won Leinster then I think they could get into a All Ireland final. by doing so they will have to beat Galway and Kilkenny plus a strong semi final team. That would be some feat, Possibly a bit early to do that

I wouldn't be getting carried away talking about AI finals etc - I'd be more looking at the short to medium term boost we'll get from the win yesterday.

To win Leinster we'd have to beat Offaly, Galway & KK, but if we could get to a Leinster final, you might get a kind draw and get to a semi-final which would be massive progress.