US Congresswoman and some of her staff shot

[Tyrones own]

"Love your neighbour" - Jesus Christ.

Careful Seanie...that type of dangerous rhetoric is frowned upon around these parts 

[Tyrones own]

TO- a few things
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    the driving of business' to foreign countries due to taxes and regulations which is exacerbating the sky rocketing unemployment rates

what business is going to "foreign" countries? what tax and regulation do you think is the cause of this? and what tax and regulation is exacerbating the sky rocketing unemployment rates?
Which part of all of

Mainly tech business that I'm familiar with...I live in Silicon Valley and have a good few friends that have lost or are loosing their jobs due to outsourcing and those that are not loosing them are being let go and hired back under contract solely due to the fact these employers don't know what to expect from this so called health care monstrosity and so are slipping out from under it...that and huge increases in pay roll taxes and workers comp insurance here in California, and do we need to mention the costs that will inevitably occur under the other scam that is Cap and trade!
In a nut shell HB... the uncertainty of the policies being forced on us here is only exacerbating the economic woes and unemployment figures in this country

[seafoid]

TO- a few things
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    the driving of business' to foreign countries due to taxes and regulations which is exacerbating the sky rocketing unemployment rates

what business is going to "foreign" countries? what tax and regulation do you think is the cause of this? and what tax and regulation is exacerbating the sky rocketing unemployment rates?
Which part of all of

Mainly tech business that I'm familiar with...I live in Silicon Valley and have a good few friends that have lost or are loosing their jobs due to outsourcing and those that are not loosing them are being let go and hired back under contract solely due to the fact these employers don't know what to expect from this so called health care monstrosity and so are slipping out from under it...that and huge increases in pay roll taxes and workers comp insurance here in California, and do we need to mention the costs that will inevitably occur under the other scam that is Cap and trade!
In a nut shell HB... the uncertainty of the policies being forced on us here is only exacerbating the economic woes and unemployment figures in this country

The US already spends 15% of GDP on health. Without healthcare reform the cost will bankrupt the country.
  Health costs have the potential to go to 20%+  of GDP especially considering that 60% of Americans are already either overweight or obese.  The numbers for republican do nothing just don't add up.

the US Defence budget is over twice the size it was in 2000. It is one of the main drivers of the deficit.   

[ross4life]

OK TO, if I might summarise what you've said there.

• I don't care how capable or otherwise an aspirant to the Oval Office is; as long as they're of the Right they're fine with me (shoot 'em up baby!)


• The current state of the US economy is entirely down to the Democrats. GWB and his two terms of (disastrous) office had absolutely nothing to do with it.[/li]
  
  
  • If it's not hard right politics then it's full-blown socialism, there's no in-between.
  
  
  • Gun law is the supreme law, and from which all greatness flows (and the fact that the US is the shooting-spree capital of the world is a rather unfortunate, but wholly random, coincidence)
  
  

[heganboy]

Fox News has cancelled an interview with the comedian Joan Rivers after she described Sarah Palin as "stupid and a threat" and blamed her for the recent attack on an Arizona congresswoman that left six people dead.

The move will reinforce the growing perception that Fox News sees its role as not only to promote Palin but shield her from criticism after the politician – who is also a Fox presenter – was accused of contributing to the extreme political rhetoric that provided the backdrop to the shootings in Tucson.

Rivers made her comments in an interview with TMZ in which she was asked whether Palin should be US president.

"I think Sarah Palin is an amazing woman. I think she represents everything strong a woman can be, and I think she should go someplace – to another planet – to show them, and get out of our face," she said.

Rivers was then asked whether Palin should be blamed for the attack in Tucson.

"They're right to blame Sarah for the shootings. Go look at her website. This woman is encouraging sandbaggers to reload ... this woman is just stupid and a threat," she said.

The comedian said that shortly after the TMZ interview, her agent received a call cancelling her appearance on Fox and Friends.

"We got called," Rivers told CNN. "So now we call it Fox and Former Friends. They said to our PR lady it was because of what we said about Miss Palin."

Rivers also tweeted about the incident, saying: "Outcome: DON'T PISS OFF SARAH PALIN. She's apparently 'very powerful', and is obviously still smarting from the end of her reality show."

Fox disputed Rivers' account, claiming that "the volume of news topics" meant there was no room for her on the show.

The topics included a segment on National Penguin Awareness Day, and an assessment of the Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler's performance as a judge on American Idol.

Fox said Rivers should have been rescheduled but was mistakenly cancelled.

[Puckoon]

Fox News has cancelled an interview with the comedian Joan Rivers after she described Sarah Palin as "stupid and a threat" and blamed her for the recent attack on an Arizona congresswoman that left six people dead.

The move will reinforce the growing perception that Fox News sees its role as not only to promote Palin but shield her from criticism after the politician – who is also a Fox presenter – was accused of contributing to the extreme political rhetoric that provided the backdrop to the shootings in Tucson.

Rivers made her comments in an interview with TMZ in which she was asked whether Palin should be US president.

"I think Sarah Palin is an amazing woman. I think she represents everything strong a woman can be, and I think she should go someplace – to another planet – to show them, and get out of our face," she said.

Rivers was then asked whether Palin should be blamed for the attack in Tucson.

"They're right to blame Sarah for the shootings. Go look at her website. This woman is encouraging sandbaggers to reload ... this woman is just stupid and a threat," she said.

The comedian said that shortly after the TMZ interview, her agent received a call cancelling her appearance on Fox and Friends.

"We got called," Rivers told CNN. "So now we call it Fox and Former Friends. They said to our PR lady it was because of what we said about Miss Palin."

Rivers also tweeted about the incident, saying: "Outcome: DON'T PISS OFF SARAH PALIN. She's apparently 'very powerful', and is obviously still smarting from the end of her reality show."

Fox disputed Rivers' account, claiming that "the volume of news topics" meant there was no room for her on the show.

The topics included a segment on National Penguin Awareness Day, and an assessment of the Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler's performance as a judge on American Idol.
Fox said Rivers should have been rescheduled but was mistakenly cancelled.

You'd think they would call it what it is.

BTW - I'd never get tired of slapping Joan Rivers. 'Comedian', my arse.

[muppet]

BTW I'd never get tired of slapping Joan Rivers Comedian my arse

PSTG see what punctuation does.

[magpie seanie]

"Love your neighbour" - Jesus Christ.

Careful Seanie...that type of dangerous rhetoric is frowned upon around these parts 

Dangerous indeed. 

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Rather ironic, that only for those arch-capitalists, the Chinese, the US would be financial toast by now.

[magpie seanie]

Sure it was that commie Obama who invited them in.

[seafoid]

Fox News has cancelled an interview with the comedian Joan Rivers after she described Sarah Palin as "stupid and a threat" and blamed her for the recent attack on an Arizona congresswoman that left six people dead.

The move will reinforce the growing perception that Fox News sees its role as not only to promote Palin but shield her from criticism after the politician – who is also a Fox presenter – was accused of contributing to the extreme political rhetoric that provided the backdrop to the shootings in Tucson.

Rivers made her comments in an interview with TMZ in which she was asked whether Palin should be US president.

"I think Sarah Palin is an amazing woman. I think she represents everything strong a woman can be, and I think she should go someplace – to another planet – to show them, and get out of our face," she said.

Rivers was then asked whether Palin should be blamed for the attack in Tucson.

"They're right to blame Sarah for the shootings. Go look at her website. This woman is encouraging sandbaggers to reload ... this woman is just stupid and a threat," she said.

The comedian said that shortly after the TMZ interview, her agent received a call cancelling her appearance on Fox and Friends.

"We got called," Rivers told CNN. "So now we call it Fox and Former Friends. They said to our PR lady it was because of what we said about Miss Palin."

Rivers also tweeted about the incident, saying: "Outcome: DON'T PISS OFF SARAH PALIN. She's apparently 'very powerful', and is obviously still smarting from the end of her reality show."

Fox disputed Rivers' account, claiming that "the volume of news topics" meant there was no room for her on the show.

The topics included a segment on National Penguin Awareness Day, and an assessment of the Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler's performance as a judge on American Idol.
Fox said Rivers should have been rescheduled but was mistakenly cancelled.

You'd think they would call it what it is.

BTW - I'd never get tired of slapping Joan Rivers. 'Comedian', my arse.

Isn't her arse now her face? 

[Puckoon]

Interestingly after fox pulled the plug on her, she was a very special guest on Anderson Cooper on CNN. I didn't get to catch her interview myself, but Cooper was introducing her as being a woman who was going to voice her opinions on a very prominent "celebrity".

[Denn Forever]

On her way back hopefully

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12253687

Gabrielle Giffords moving to Texas rehabilitation centre
Mrs Giffords is being transported to a rehabilitation clinic in Houston in the state of Texas

The US congresswoman shot in the head in an attack at a constituency meeting in which six people died is being moved to a rehabilitation centre in Texas.

Gabrielle Giffords is being transported from a hospital in the Arizona city of Tucson to Memorial Hermann Rehabilitation Hospital in Houston.

Her husband, a Nasa astronaut, says he hopes she will make a full recovery

[Groucho]

WASHINGTON: Just a month after a deranged Tucson gunman killed six people and wounded 13 others, including US Representative Gabrielle Giffords, national sales of the automatic pistol and high-capacity magazine favored by the shooter have surged.  And while budgets are slashed for the Federal agency that oversees gun sellers, lawmakers in South Dakota are now considering a new law that would require every adult in the state to own a firearm.

This mad rush of new gun buyers in the wake of the slaughter in Tucson was no surprise to Greg Wolff, owner of "Glockmeisters," a chain of Arizona hunting supply stores. Hours after the shootings, Wolff's businesses were mobbed with customers eager to buy the same pistol, the Glock 19, and high-capacity magazine allegedly used by Jared Loughner, the 23-year-old arrested at the scene. 

"We're at double our volume over what we usually do," Wolff told reporters weeks after the shooting spree. "When something like this happens people get worried that the government is going to ban stuff."

According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), the government agency that licenses gun shops, sales of handguns in Arizona jumped 60 percent during the month following the Tucson shootings. During the same period (compared with the previous year), sales jumped 65 percent in Ohio, 16 percent in California, 38 percent in Illinois, and 33 percent in New York. Nationally, the sale of firearms increased 5 percent.

Buyers also flocked to gun stores and Internet sites to buy the same type of high-capacity magazine allegedly used by Jared Loughner.  Cheaper Than Dirt!, an Internet firearms and ammunition retailer based in Fort Worth, boasts that it has experienced a huge surge in orders for pistol magazines holding more than 10 rounds, with 30-round Glock magazines leading sales. The same company also bragged that it had sold its entire inventory of Glock 19s.   

Roberta Wilson, Cheaper Than Dirt's chief operating officer, attributes the sales surge to a law recently introduced in the Texas legislature that would ban the sale of high-capacity magazines. "It's not unusual to see panic buying when legislation like this is introduced," said Wilson. "Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and we'll see this bill die in committee."

At the Federal level, particularly at the ATF, oversight of gun sales and gun retailers will likely be scaled back due to congressional budget cuts. Washington lawmakers say the reduction in money earmarked for ATF is intended to eliminate duplicate efforts shared by other Federal agencies.  But ATF officials say the loss of money will likely translate into layoffs of personnel responsible for enforcing national firearms laws.

While Federal and state lawmakers grapple with ways to implement gun laws that balance public safety with the Constitutionally-guaranteed right of Americans to bear arms, South Dakota lawmakers have introduced legislation that would require, that's right, require every adult resident of the state to buy a firearm "sufficient to provide for their ordinary self-defense."

The proposed law, which awaits approval by the South Dakota legislature, would give people six months to acquire a firearm after turning 21. The provision does not apply to people who are barred from owning a firearm, such as convicted felons and violent mental patients.

The pending legislation does not specify what type of firearm South Dakota residents would be required to buy. Instead, the new measure merely mandates that South Dakotans would be required to choose a gun "suitable to their temperament, physical capacity, and preference."

State Representative Hal Wick, a Republican from Sioux Falls who co-sponsored the law, says the measure "provides for an individual mandate to adult citizens to provide for the self-defense of themselves and others.


WHY?