The War You Don't See

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Now available to watch online:

http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=198443

Thanks, Arthur

[give her dixie]

Having watched the film this evening, it has only proved what I have believed for years.
The mainstream media have been hood winking us for a lifetime, and have been working hand in hand with
our corrupt western leaders in their illegal and inhumane wars, where the real victims are never seen or heard of. In the UK media, the only deaths we hear about in Iraq and Afghanistan are the soldiers who get killed.
Never a word about the innocent men women and children they butcher and kill for fun.

John Pilgner has done a fantastic job with this film, and hopefully more and more people will look at the news closer and ask more questions in the future. He deserves a lot of respect for standing up to the mainsteam press who report what they are told to report by the Government.

On the subject of Palestine / Israel, his points were well put across. The massacre of the 9 humanitarians onboard the Mavi Marmara was a good example. Following the attacks, the mainstream media dished out the US/Israeli propaganda, and brainwashed the vast majority of the public with their lies and bullshit.
A few months later, a UN investigation found that the 9 were murdered illegally, 5 of whom were shot at a range of 45cm or less. A war crime was committed, and lives could have been saved if medical attention had of been allowed to be administered in the cruical time after the shootings.

This week, the 100 person since March has been shot by US/Israeli Occupation forces while collection rubble from the remains of houses bombed 2 years ago. So far this month, 12 Palestinians have been murdered in Gaza. 5 were killed in one airstrike on Saturday. Did we hear this reported in any of the mainstream media?

Right now as I type, Gaza is once again under attack by US/Israeli forces. F16s have dropped over 10 bombs in the past hour, targeting an electric plant, a dairy plant, a cemetery, and tunnells among other targets. This is a weekly occurence, yet the media never report it. However, if someone was to spit at Israel, it would be all over the news, and the US would rush in with another few billion to arm them even further.

Next week will mark the 2nd anniversary of the brutal attacks on Gaza that left over 1,400 people dead in 3 weeks. The continued murder and occupation goes on without any sanctions against Israel, and the leaders of the west sit idly by and allows it to happen. However, a growing list of nations are stepping up and formally recognising the state of Palestine based on the '67 borders. Just last week Brazil, Bolivia, Argentina, Equador, and Norway joined 130 other nation in this recognition. In the US, a vote in the house passed 435 to 0 to refuse to recognise a Palestinian state, and also to spend $725 billion on various occupation and wars across the middle east. I'm sure there are a lot of US citizens who are refused health care and unemployment benefits that could do with a few of those dollars.....

However, times are changing, and the US and Israel have a rude awakening coming their way very soon, and the sooner the better for the sake of humanity and peace not only in the middle east, but around the world.

To counteract the shite we hear through the mainstream media, I set up a news page on facebook for news related to Gaza. Along with a reporter who lives in Gaza, we report the news from the besigged region every day. Click on the following link to view some of the news, and see for yourself how tragic the conditions are for 1.5 million people:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gaza-TV-News/119275738102852?ref=ts

[give her dixie]

A good article that shows the ugly side of war and occupation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340207/I-didnt-think-Iraqis-humans-says-U-S-soldier-raped-14-year-old-girl-killing-her-family.html


'I didn't think of Iraqis as humans,' says U.S. soldier who raped 14-year-old girl before killing her and her family


An Iraq War veteran serving five life terms for raping and killing a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and killing her parents and sister says he didn't think of Iraqi civilians as humans after being exposed to extreme warzone violence.
Steven Green, a former 101st Airborne soldier, in his first interview since the 2006 killings, claimed that his crimes were fuelled in part by experiences in Iraq's violent 'Triangle of Death' where two of his sergeants were gunned down.

He also cited a lack of leadership and help from the Army.
'I was crazy,' Green said in the exclusive telephone interview from federal prison in Tucson, Arizona. 'I was just all the way out there. I didn't think I was going to live.'

Green talked about what led up to the March 12, 2006, attack on a family near Mahmoudiya, Iraq, that left him serving five consecutive life sentences.
The former soldier, who apologised at sentencing for his crimes, said he wasn't seeking sympathy nor trying to justify his actions - killings prosecutors described at trial in 2009 as one of the worst crimes of the Iraq war.
But Green said people should know his actions were a consequence of his circumstances in a war zone.
'If I hadn't ever been in Iraq, I wouldn't be in the kind of trouble I'm in now,' Green said. 'I'm not happy about that.' Green was discharged with a 'personality disorder' before federal charges were brought against him.

Prosecutors sought a death sentence, but a federal jury in Paducah, Kentucky, opted for five life sentences on charges including the rape and murder of 14-year-old Abeer Qassim Al-Janabi and the shooting deaths of her mother, father and younger sister.

Four other soldiers were convicted in military court for various roles in the attack. Three remain in military prison.
Green is challenging the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act, which allows the federal government to charge an American in civilian court for alleged crimes committed overseas. He was the first former soldier convicted under the statute. The U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals has scheduled arguments for January 21.

Green is challenging the constitutionality of that law, saying it gives the executive branch too much leeway over whom to prosecute. Prosecutors say the law should be upheld.
'I've got some hope, but I'm not delusional about it,' said Green, now 25. 'I hope it works. But, whenever they give you multiple life sentences, they're not planning on letting you out.'
Green didn't testify at trial. During sentencing, he apologized and said he expects to face 'God's justice' when he dies.

A 19-year-old high school dropout from Midland, Texas, Green joined the Army after obtaining his high school equivalency diploma from a correspondence school.

He said signing up was easy, born of a sense of duty to defend his country and the opportunities that offered.
'I thought I'd be neglecting my duty if I didn't,' Green said. 'You've got a career, you've got a job. It gives you opportunities to do things with your life.'
The military placed Green with the Fort Campbell-based 101st Airborne. Upon arriving in Iraq, Green said, his training to kill, the rampant violence and derogatory comments by other soldiers against Iraqis served to dehumanise that country's civilian population.
A turning point came on December 10, 2005, Green said, when a previously friendly Iraqi approached a traffic checkpoint and opened fire.
The shots killed Staff Sgt. Travis L. Nelson, 41, instantly. Sgt. Kenith Casica, 32, was hit in the throat. Casica died as soldiers raced him aboard a Humvee to a field hospital.
Green said those deaths 'messed me up real bad.'

The deaths intensified Green's feelings toward all Iraqis, whom soldiers often called by a derogatory term. 'There's not a word that would describe how much I hated these people,' Green said. 'I wasn't thinking these people were humans.'

Over the next four months, Green sought help from a military stress counsellor, obtaining small doses of a mood-regulating drug - and a directive to get some sleep before returning to his checkpoint south of Baghdad.
In the interview, Green described alcohol and drugs being prevalent at the checkpoint. Green said soldiers there frequently felt abandoned by the Army and were given little support after the deaths of Casica and Nelson.
Spc. James P. Barker of Fresno, California, testified that he pitched the idea of going to the al-Janabi family's home to Sgt. Paul E. Cortez of Barstow, California, who was in charge of the traffic checkpoint.
Green, who talked frequently of wanting to kill Iraqis, was brought along.
Cortez testified that Barker and Green had the idea of having sex with the girl and that he didn't know the family would be killed.
Green, then a private,saidhe had 'an altered state of mind' at the time. 'I wasn't thinking about more than 10 minutes into the future at any given time,' Green said. 'I didn't care.'
At the Iraqi home, Barker and Cortez pulled Abeer into one room, while Green held the mother, father and youngest daughter in another.

Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman, of Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, stood guard in the hall. As Barker and Cortez raped the teen, Green shot the three family members, killing them.

He then went into the next room and raped Abeer, before shooting her in the head. The soldiers lit her remains on fire before leaving. Another soldier stood watch a few miles away at the checkpoint.
Since his sentencing on September 4, 2009, Green has been attacked at the federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana, and was then transferred to Arizona.

In prison, Green converted to Catholicism and has corresponded with a nun in Louisville about his faith.
Green described prison life as a 'lonely existence' and said other inmates consider those convicted of sex offenses among the lowest, making life 'hazardous' among the general prison population.
For Green, each day is just a matter of getting through 24 hours so he can do it all again the next day. Meanwhile, he lives with memories of the attack that took away the Iraqi family.
'If I thought that was an OK thing now, I wouldn't be much of a human being,' Green said.

[lawnseed]

1 to 9 thats the exceptable ratio of combatants to civilian deaths according to the brits comander in chief. i dare say where the yanks are involved the ratio is higher. time our government closed shannon to US troops. if theyre going out to kill people let them land in england. bare in mind that all our media rt news, al jeezara etc are all heavily censored   

[Man Marker]

Just watched that show on iplayer, makes you thinks, confirms what we have mostly thought, thank god for my simple life. The anount of lies that have been spun nere in our own country from both camps. My conscience is clear.

[mannix]

not surprised, a lot of americans are pumped up with patriot pills the media feeds them. even the cops and security guard at the mall has a power trip going on. The real winner is China, they now own the usa, and without firing a single bullet. i live in america so I see whats fed to the gullible patriots.

[ziggy90]

Just watched that show on iplayer, makes you thinks, confirms what we have mostly thought, thank god for my simple life. The anount of lies that have been spun nere in our own country from both camps. My conscience is clear.

MM what is the name of that programme? I can't find it using the i-player link. Cheers.

[Aerlik]

not surprised, a lot of americans are pumped up with patriot pills the media feeds them. even the cops and security guard at the mall has a power trip going on. The real winner is China, they now own the usa, and without firing a single bullet. i live in america so I see whats fed to the gullible patriots.

Agree 100% with you, Mannix.  China has the USA by the short and curlies and up to its neck in debt.  So, enter the power games.  Why do you think the USA is trying to bolster its geostrategic position in that region?  Cos it knows that China really is the world's only superpower right now and is sitting back and watching the yanks slowly implode.  China is buying up the bulk of Australia's resources especially iron ore,coal and gas and stockpiling the stuff knowing that it will very soon be in a very strong position to dominate.  Rio Tinto is selling shit loads of iron from Brazil to China too.  African countries are also in China's sights.  Fcuk human rights.  And  the Tyrone's Own-endorsed War on Terror is but a front.  A last desparate measure to recuperate that which is beyond their grasp.