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Will you vote for Fianna Fail?

Yes in the next election
43 (23.9%)
Maybe at some time in the future
24 (13.3%)
No never again
52 (28.9%)
I never have
61 (33.9%)

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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #720 on: January 18, 2016, 05:11:24 PM »
Micheál Martin gave his leaders speech at the Ard Fheis. I must say I found it entertaining. In fairness to the man, he is doing a brilliant job at standing to the side and making it look like FF had little or nothing to do with our present troubles. There is no doubt that FF will gain seats in the next election. There are just to many people/families with ties to the party for it not to. And with a few new faces running without baggage they will be easier to vote for.

Why does he keep boxing them in with the whole "we won't go into coalition" with all the other parties?

Way more damaging to their current situation than the failings of 10 years ago.

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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #721 on: January 18, 2016, 05:16:03 PM »
Micheál Martin gave his leaders speech at the Ard Fheis. I must say I found it entertaining. In fairness to the man, he is doing a brilliant job at standing to the side and making it look like FF had little or nothing to do with our present troubles. There is no doubt that FF will gain seats in the next election. There are just to many people/families with ties to the party for it not to. And with a few new faces running without baggage they will be easier to vote for.

Why does he keep boxing them in with the whole "we won't go into coalition" with all the other parties?

Way more damaging to their current situation than the failings of 10 years ago.

/Jim.

I can only imagine it's a manifestation of FF's obsession with SF as their main competition.  An effective declaration that they are not going to be in government may be an attempt to steal dome of SF's disaffected vote. He may be trying to position the Soldiers as the party of protest. Never going to work, in my opinion. A party that has Richie Kavanagh as the headline act at its conference is not going to harvest much of the urban hoodie vote.

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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #722 on: January 18, 2016, 05:21:42 PM »
Micheál Martin gave his leaders speech at the Ard Fheis. I must say I found it entertaining. In fairness to the man, he is doing a brilliant job at standing to the side and making it look like FF had little or nothing to do with our present troubles. There is no doubt that FF will gain seats in the next election. There are just to many people/families with ties to the party for it not to. And with a few new faces running without baggage they will be easier to vote for.

Why does he keep boxing them in with the whole "we won't go into coalition" with all the other parties?

Way more damaging to their current situation than the failings of 10 years ago.

/Jim.

I can only imagine it's a manifestation of FF's obsession with SF as their main competition.  An effective declaration that they are not going to be in government may be an attempt to steal dome of SF's disaffected vote. He may be trying to position the Soldiers as the party of protest. Never going to work, in my opinion. A party that has Richie Kavanagh as the headline act at its conference is not going to harvest much of the urban hoodie vote.

God be with the days of Bertie and his "constructive ambiguity"..........

Why can't he kick to touch like everyone else????  "Let the people speak..yaddya...common ground..do businesss..policy support...yaddya"

Their way back to power is propping up the detested blueshirts.

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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #723 on: January 18, 2016, 05:40:58 PM »

Their way back to power is propping up the detested blueshirts.

/Jim.

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Any chance at a power grab they'll take. By telling FG they won't join a coalition is just a bargaining strategy.
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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #724 on: January 18, 2016, 05:48:39 PM »
Micheál Martin gave his leaders speech at the Ard Fheis. I must say I found it entertaining. In fairness to the man, he is doing a brilliant job at standing to the side and making it look like FF had little or nothing to do with our present troubles. There is no doubt that FF will gain seats in the next election. There are just to many people/families with ties to the party for it not to. And with a few new faces running without baggage they will be easier to vote for.

Why does he keep boxing them in with the whole "we won't go into coalition" with all the other parties?

Way more damaging to their current situation than the failings of 10 years ago.

/Jim.


Simple really, to position FF or give the impression  as  being the main opposition party to the Government.

Personally think this GE is one FF have written off as one to get back on their feet and will be eyeing up the next one later in the year or in 4/5 years ahead as the one where they will be sniffing around looking for the second seats in the constituencies.

Think FF have no interest in getting into power this time. Same with SF I think.

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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #725 on: January 18, 2016, 05:55:34 PM »
Think FF have no interest in getting into power this time.

If a coalition is offered with tanaiste position would Micheal turn it down? It's a gamble to say you'll make it to the next election still in the driving seat of your party.
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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #726 on: January 18, 2016, 06:05:58 PM »

Think FF have no interest in getting into power this time. Same with SF I think.


100% - The worst move for FF would be to go into power and they know it. Power sharing as a minority party is suicide. They have to talk the talk about going into government to the Public, but in private opposition with a couple more seats will do (for the moment!).

From a personal view. My days of giving any sort of a mark to a FF Candidate are done. The thought of it disgusts me.

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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #727 on: January 18, 2016, 07:15:50 PM »


From a personal view. My days of giving any sort of a mark to a FF Candidate are done. The thought of it disgusts me.
+1.
If my best friend stood for them cuts I wouldn't give him even a no 10 never mind no1.
It certainly looks like they want to recover some seats but stay away from Govt to ensure SF can't claim to be the real Opposition.
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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #728 on: January 18, 2016, 07:38:00 PM »


From a personal view. My days of giving any sort of a mark to a FF Candidate are done. The thought of it disgusts me.
+1.
If my best friend stood for them cuts I wouldn't give him even a no 10 never mind no1.
It certainly looks like they want to recover some seats but stay away from Govt to ensure SF can't claim to be the real Opposition.
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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #729 on: January 18, 2016, 09:22:44 PM »
Micheál Martin gave his leaders speech at the Ard Fheis. I must say I found it entertaining. In fairness to the man, he is doing a brilliant job at standing to the side and making it look like FF had little or nothing to do with our present troubles. There is no doubt that FF will gain seats in the next election. There are just to many people/families with ties to the party for it not to. And with a few new faces running without baggage they will be easier to vote for.

Why does he keep boxing them in with the whole "we won't go into coalition" with all the other parties?

Way more damaging to their current situation than the failings of 10 years ago.

/Jim.

I can only imagine it's a manifestation of FF's obsession with SF as their main competition.  An effective declaration that they are not going to be in government may be an attempt to steal dome of SF's disaffected vote. He may be trying to position the Soldiers as the party of protest. Never going to work, in my opinion. A party that has Richie Kavanagh as the headline act at its conference is not going to harvest much of the urban hoodie vote.
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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #730 on: January 18, 2016, 11:12:56 PM »
devalera handed our sovereignty over to a bigger tyrant than the one we deposed...the Catholic Church

Once we recovered from that 70 year nightmare Cowen and Leinahan then handed the country over to the Troika

Fool me once, shame on you......

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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #731 on: February 28, 2016, 11:37:22 AM »
devalera handed our sovereignty over to a bigger tyrant than the one we deposed...the Catholic Church

Once we recovered from that 70 year nightmare Cowen and Leinahan then handed the country over to the Troika

Fool me once, shame on you......

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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #732 on: February 28, 2016, 11:59:24 AM »
Ah good old human nature. Hard to turn your back on generations of affinity to Fianna fail. I suppose for some supporters it would have been like a Liverpool supporter changing over to Man u once Man u started to win stuff from '93 on. It just does not happen!


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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #733 on: February 28, 2016, 03:56:11 PM »
Ah good old human nature. Hard to turn your back on generations of affinity to Fianna fail. I suppose for some supporters it would have been like a Liverpool supporter changing over to Man u once Man u started to win stuff from '93 on. It just does not happen!

If FG hadn't sat on their laurels going on about the recovery, maybe it would.
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Re: Will you vote for Fianna Fail?
« Reply #734 on: March 01, 2016, 06:16:04 PM »
Ah good old human nature. Hard to turn your back on generations of affinity to Fianna fail. I suppose for some supporters it would have been like a Liverpool supporter changing over to Man u once Man u started to win stuff from '93 on. It just does not happen!

If FG hadn't sat on their laurels going on about the recovery, maybe it would.

Yes the problem with the recovery is that it is early days, only affects a few and the stats that the politicians live and die by are irrelevant to the ordinary person. They want to see something real.
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