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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2955 on: January 18, 2020, 12:20:32 PM »
if the gaa are serious semi finals should be out of croke park.
Serious about what?

Geographically, Belfast doesnít lend itself well to hosting an All Ireland semi final.
It would also be an extremely rare occurrence that the attendance at an AI semi final would be low enough to be accommodated at Casement Park, at the proposed capacity. I imagine the GAA would take a lot of flak if they denied tens of thousands of fans the opportunity to attend a semi final involving their county by playing it in a smaller stadium in a northern corner of Ireland. Add to that the loss of revenue.

All in, I think it is pie in the sky stuff to suggest that AI semi finals could be played at Casement.


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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2956 on: January 18, 2020, 02:51:51 PM »
if the gaa are serious semi finals should be out of croke park.
Serious about what?

Geographically, Belfast doesnít lend itself well to hosting an All Ireland semi final.
It would also be an extremely rare occurrence that the attendance at an AI semi final would be low enough to be accommodated at Casement Park, at the proposed capacity. I imagine the GAA would take a lot of flak if they denied tens of thousands of fans the opportunity to attend a semi final involving their county by playing it in a smaller stadium in a northern corner of Ireland. Add to that the loss of revenue.

All in, I think it is pie in the sky stuff to suggest that AI semi finals could be played at Casement.

Geographically, Belfast doesnít lend itself well to hosting an Ulster semi final.

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2957 on: January 18, 2020, 03:51:59 PM »
if the gaa are serious semi finals should be out of croke park.
Serious about what?

Geographically, Belfast doesnít lend itself well to hosting an All Ireland semi final.
It would also be an extremely rare occurrence that the attendance at an AI semi final would be low enough to be accommodated at Casement Park, at the proposed capacity. I imagine the GAA would take a lot of flak if they denied tens of thousands of fans the opportunity to attend a semi final involving their county by playing it in a smaller stadium in a northern corner of Ireland. Add to that the loss of revenue.

All in, I think it is pie in the sky stuff to suggest that AI semi finals could be played at Casement.

Geographically, Belfast doesnít lend itself well to hosting an Ulster semi final.
Thatís a bit of a stretch but depending on the pairing, it could be true.


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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2958 on: January 18, 2020, 03:55:15 PM »
I would say Gaa games will be second in line with concerts first in line

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2959 on: January 18, 2020, 04:16:52 PM »
if the gaa are serious semi finals should be out of croke park.
Serious about what?

Geographically, Belfast doesnít lend itself well to hosting an All Ireland semi final.
It would also be an extremely rare occurrence that the attendance at an AI semi final would be low enough to be accommodated at Casement Park, at the proposed capacity. I imagine the GAA would take a lot of flak if they denied tens of thousands of fans the opportunity to attend a semi final involving their county by playing it in a smaller stadium in a northern corner of Ireland. Add to that the loss of revenue.

All in, I think it is pie in the sky stuff to suggest that AI semi finals could be played at Casement.

Geographically, Belfast doesnít lend itself well to hosting an Ulster semi final.
Thatís a bit of a stretch but depending on the pairing, it could be true.

Donegal Tyrone, Cavan Armagh
Fermanagh Monaghan, Donegal Down

Last 2 years semis. Hardly ideal for both teams involved.

At a push, semis involving Antrim Down Tyrone and Derry are only suited to Casement semis.

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2960 on: January 18, 2020, 05:17:16 PM »
It doesnít have to be a mid-point to be an acceptable venue though. Just as long as itís not a ridiculous trek.
6 of the 9 counties are within an hours drive from Belfast. I donít think thatís an unacceptable journey to a game especially to play or spectate in a state of the art stadium.



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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2961 on: January 18, 2020, 07:58:11 PM »
It doesnít have to be a mid-point to be an acceptable venue though. Just as long as itís not a ridiculous trek.
6 of the 9 counties are within an hours drive from Belfast. I donít think thatís an unacceptable journey to a game especially to play or spectate in a state of the art stadium.

Which 6 counties?

Crossmaglen, Teemore, Trillick, Steelstown, Attical are they within an hour?

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2962 on: January 18, 2020, 08:37:08 PM »
Antrim, Armagh, Down, Derry, Tyrone and Monaghan.
Maybe stretching it with Monaghan but not by much!!

I donít know why you are mentioning all of those places.
For what itís worth, Cross and Attical are about an hour. Teemore isnít in a county I mentioned.

The fact is, Belfast isnít a very long trip from any of the above counties and I donít believe it is unacceptable to ask teams and fans from those counties to travel that distance for an Ulster semi final.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2020, 08:40:38 PM by hardstation »


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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2963 on: January 18, 2020, 08:40:58 PM »
It doesnít have to be a mid-point to be an acceptable venue though. Just as long as itís not a ridiculous trek.
6 of the 9 counties are within an hours drive from Belfast. I donít think thatís an unacceptable journey to a game especially to play or spectate in a state of the art stadium.

Is Donegal Cavan in Belfast not an unacceptable trek for both? Or Fermanagh Monaghan? Itís also unreasonable for when West Tyrone play North Derry.

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2964 on: January 18, 2020, 08:42:50 PM »
Donegal, Cavan and Fermanagh are 3 counties I havenít included.
Where should West Tyrone play North Derry?
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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2965 on: January 18, 2020, 09:32:00 PM »
Build it in the middle of Lough Neagh and it'll be central for most people.

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« Reply #2966 on: January 18, 2020, 09:58:19 PM »
Casement is ideal for
Down v Derry
Down v Antrim

pretty good for
Armagh v Down
Armagh v Derry
Down v Tyrone

not much use for

most teams v Cavan
most teams  v Donegal.
Fermanagh v Monaghan

and another problem is that Antrim simply don't bring crowd as some  of the above do.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2967 on: January 21, 2020, 12:54:35 PM »
In fairness Antrim games could be held in a phone box for all that turns up.

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2968 on: January 21, 2020, 01:16:28 PM »
https://youtu.be/XrooZwU2Hh8

Youd be surprised at the support when it starts to come together.  Antrim is the biggest sleeping giant in the association, not something we are proud of, and a lot of good work is now going on to turn the tide that allows us to fulfil our potential. If Ulster GAA is looking for expedential growth then Belfast is the place to do it.

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #2969 on: January 21, 2020, 03:42:37 PM »
https://youtu.be/XrooZwU2Hh8

Youd be surprised at the support when it starts to come together.  Antrim is the biggest sleeping giant in the association, not something we are proud of, and a lot of good work is now going on to turn the tide that allows us to fulfil our potential. If Ulster GAA is looking for expedential growth then Belfast is the place to do it.

I'm totally on board with Antrim upping their game. But they'd wanna get their fingers out. We've been hearing about this sleeping giant this 40 years. They can barely get a team out wearing all the same jerseys.