Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[trileacman]

Jarlath now saying the 6Cos Executive needs to up their £62m due to inflation.

If it was inflated as much as his ego they'd be ready to start in the morning.

     

[trileacman]

Talk of it being at less than capacity for 1-3 days a year. Sure that applies to nearly every other ground as well FFS.

Yeah but they didn't cost 250 million.

[trileacman]

But we should make no apologies in trying to strive for the best rather than looking to build another generic stadium with no other potential revenue streams outside of GAA.

No harm but the potential revenue streams outside the GAA are pretty much non-existent for Casement with the exception of Ulster Rugby matches.

The 120 million PUC in Cork isn't due to host any concerts this year. The 8,000 seater Musgrave Park is due to hold 7 concerts. PUC hasn't hosted any concerts since Westlife in 2022.

[6th sam]

Surely we are the only place in the world where we get a £50m handout and people are still gurning.
1. £50m is the very least the British government should be giving to West Belfast after presiding over years of underfunding and discrimination of the nationalist population here.
2. The GAA is thriving , yet there continues to be ridiculous council allocation of pitches to soccer as opposed to GAA. Fair play to IFA and Ulster rugby who have been earning money on their stadia for years whilst the GAA haven't had that opportunity ( not all of their own making). The GAA is getting what they deserve , and they're the best placed organisation to make this work given the success of Croke Park , and the volunteer base they can tap in to , to help sustainability .
3. The emotive use of health and education , argument is immature analysis ( Westminster won't transfer the £50m into health , education ) , and takes no account that health and education here are draining money because for political reasons again , they won't pool resources to provide the very best systems. Importantly , health and education will always cost money, but appropriate investment in sport/recreation, should actually generate income and additional investment , boosting the economy
4. There appears to be nearly £180m available as it stands , can additional funds be found by the GAA, stormont and Dublin , business sector to provide the most functional stadium possible for Irelands second city? Say we max out at £250m for a ~ 28k stadium(capable of extension in the future if needed) which is about right for a region the size of Ulster .
5. Stormont and other investors contributing to this project must put the squeeze on planners to work quicker thru proposals for what should be a smaller , less intrusive, more functional and sustainable stadium
6. All stakeholders have a responsibility to  demand that this large investment is spent for sustainable economic and feelgood benefit... should have daily use for meeting's conventions,  recreation, whilst being able to host marquee games in soccer rugby nfl etc.
7. This will be the most modern stadium in Europe , we should make it the best by learning from other projects , clearly there isn't enough  experience on this island to develop the most cost effective , sustainable stadium possible
8. Politically all the community needs to embrace this massive opportunity for all


 

[Sportacus]

Ulster Council quoted on front page of the Irish News saying there are no plans to downsize the stadium. 
So does that fire it back into Stormont, where they're incapable of making a big decision.
They'll still be waffling about it in five years time if this is the strategy.

[LC]

Seen the 3D image in the front of the Irish News again today, seriously wtf.

The GAA need to catch themselves on and work with what they have, brand new stadium but similar in principle to what is there in terms of new stand down on side and terracing around the perimeter.  Good enough for Newry, Armagh and likewise Celtic Park

You could just imagine whoever was making the pitch to Downing Street saying we need £x million and by the way this place might (and a big might at that) only be full once the year, the rest of the time it will be losing money.

Bottom line UK Government are saying to them there is £50m now f@#k off.

[Rossfan]

Dear Comhairle Uladh,
Time for reality.
Mise le meas
Rf

[AustinPowers]

Nothing is going to  happen until after  next July  when the  deadline  for the current plans runs out

The GAA won't/can't  be  seen to be backing down

So, I'd say it will be at least another 2  years  of nothing happening  with  Casement.  With costs continuing to rise ,  we'll probably end up with something the size  of  Corrigan Park. If  anything

[general_lee]

I haven't that much experience in delivering major infrastructure projects but surely they can start work and do it in phases like Croke Park?

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

I haven't that much experience in delivering major infrastructure projects but surely they can start work and do it in phases like Croke Park?

You should be on the committee leading the Casement Park redevelopment.

[general_lee]

I haven't that much experience in delivering major infrastructure projects but surely they can start work and do it in phases like Croke Park?

You should be on the committee leading the Casement Park redevelopment.

I'm overqualified.

[twohands!!!]

I haven't that much experience in delivering major infrastructure projects but surely they can start work and do it in phases like Croke Park?

You should be on the committee leading the Casement Park redevelopment.

No the fact that he has any experience whatsoever disqualifies him.

On a more serious note - one problem with that approach (building a stadium piecemeal) is that it's more expensive. I remember hearing that it added a fair bit of cost to Croke Park compared to if it had been done all at once.

A big part of why Croke Park was done in phases was that priority was given to not causing disruption to holding games (and the income they provided)

Also I'm not that familar with the planning permission rules for a project of this size but I would be fairly certain that there are certain conditions around the manner of the construction - if the Ulster council want to build one stand initially and say the plan is to build more later then I expect they would have to apply for completely new planning permission to build the stadium this way.

[Rossfan]

If they keep waiting for the missing €/£100m (rising by €/£0.5m per month) the planning they have will expire and will have to start all over again anyway.
Then the objectors can start all over again.....

[quit yo jibbajabba]

A never ending circle of shite while some boys have earned a pretty penny no doubt

[Armamike]

This should be no.1 on Jarlath's to do list.  It will be a very disappointing tenure for him if this is still in limbo when he hands over to the next President.