Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[ONeill]

[armaghniac]

Would you get much of a view from the mountain if you brought binoculars?

Probably easier to watch on TV.

[AustinPowers]

Aggrieved is a bit strong, being put out or having to settle to watch the game on telly is the worst that's going to come out of this. No one will miss the game, compensation for those unlucky to not get is definitely needed, but the claim culture in modern society means people are aggrieved if someone gives them a compliment.

Anyone defending these muppets is as bad

I'm not sure that many are defending the "muppets". I don't know who they are or what their motivations are. I am however very interested in the outcome and I am not that annoyed that some persons are at least thinking of taking this further.

Aggrieved, seems a very appropriate word.
I'm not sure what the problem is with it?

People want to go to the game. I think we had 7k at a home match in a freezing cold Saturday night against Clare in Division 3. There is a huge appetite to attend games. Look at the crowd 2 hours before throw in for games in the Athletics ground as young and old try to get a seat before the mass crowd arrives.

Few in Armagh have ever said the game shouldn't be in Antrim and there is huge sympathy for Antrim's position. I had my worries about the game being in Corrigan Park as I couldn't see how more than a few Antrim fans could get a ticket. It looks like that injustice is being addressed by tearing up the Ts&Cs of the season ticket. And they are being torn up. The line that the capacity issue allows the Ulster Council to do what it's proposing is a fiction.

That's why I'm interested in the outcome. If we arrive at the point where the GAA can just renege on its obligations I'm not sure any of us will be celebrating that in the long run.

So regardless of all that, the game was fixed for Corrigan and due to the size and ticket allocation it's deemed that it's not enough to cover the season ticket allocation that Armagh have.

That's a Ulster council problem not an Antrim one, the games been fixed and unfortunately it's been over sold, those that lose out on coming up the Whiterock road can watch on tv, those that missed out can get their money back and a free ticket or a corneto

Everyone moves on, and toys stay in the pram, the childish behaviour is akin to a two year old throwing a tantrum in a shop!

Now we have a continuation of something that will make more headlines than the game.

I'm not sure I've seen anything from the GAA president on this or from Croke or even from the Armagh team to tell people that's it's done and move on.

Again anyone that continues to look at this with any other view, really needs to look at themselves

I do agree with you on this bit why would the Armagh team have to say anything on the matter?

The Armagh team manager have sway, a little statement saying they are happy and in agreement to play at Corrigan and while it's not perfect and people will miss out but we are looking forward to playing the game.

Pretty sure I've seen Geezer say that.

Paddy Burns  said something similar  too

[illdecide]

Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) leader Gavin Robinson has warned his party has put a "marker" down at Stormont to block Sinn Féin spending money on "pet projects".

It follows the decision by Infrastructure Minister Liz Kimmins to approve £150,000 for Irish-language signage at Belfast's new Grand Central Station.

A row over the Irish language around the executive table is nothing new but this one has been simmering for some time.

Sinn Féin has accused the DUP of blocking the executive from resolving a funding crisis for cross-border Irish language services, which are facing a £650,000 cut.

The finger of blame is being pointed at DUP Deputy First Minister Emma Little-Pengelly for refusing to allow the matter to reach the executive.

So this latest row over Irish-language signage at Belfast Central Station has added another pressure point.

In an email to his supporters over the weekend, the DUP leader said the signage decision was now being challenged around the executive table.

It is understood DUP Communities Minister Gordon Lyons has posed a series of questions about the move in a letter to the infrastructure minister.

Last week Little-Pengelly criticised the decision, claiming "much of the £150,000 will be used to rip out new signs" to "drive forward a political agenda" by the infrastructure minister.

She also questioned spending the money at a time when the executive financially was in a "very difficult place".


Infrastructure Minister Liz Kimmins said her decision reflected the "thriving Irish language community"

But in announcing the extra funding, Kimmins said it was a "hugely positive development" which reflected the "thriving Irish language community".

She also confirmed her decision had passed an equality screening exercise which showed it would have "a minor positive impact".

It may come down to whether or not the decision by the infrastructure minister to approve funding for the signs should have been subject to wider executive approval.

Robinson believes it should.

"This is clearly a controversial matter and our ministers will use their position at the executive table to not only get to the bottom of how the decision was made but put a marker down that public money cannot be used to further Sinn Féin's pet project," the DUP leader said.

Whether the decision can be taken by a single minister depends on whether it is considered "controversial" and/or cross-cutting, in other words whether it falls under the purview of multiple departments.

History tell us it may be a judge and not a minister who decides, if we reach that point.

[illdecide]

Now who would have thought Mr Lyons would be objecting to anything Irish...

[illdecide]

If any of you seen his interview on Friday (I think it was) where he claimed he knew nothing about the GAA and Casement application...You just knew looking at his face he was lying thru his cake hole, the interviewer even knew he was lying but no one has the testicular fortitude to pull them on it.

[AustinPowers]

I think all this  pissing and moaning  about anything Irish/GAA , from  unionist politicians is all  part of the act

They can't be seen by  their  voters to be kowtowing to SF and  all things Irish. They know  things like Irish language signs  will be installed (they agreed to it) , they know Casement will be build at some stage, and in some form.  It's all bum and bluster , to be seen to be doing  something.  When they are powerless to stop it, but let's shout and roar because it looks good and justifies  their  positions  to their Neanderthal voters

In all honesty,  this is the way Stormont, as a whole, operates. To be  seen to be doing something.

[general_lee]

The players settling? Talk me through that....

Ok
I'll try and use small words so you can understand.

Unfortunately if there is a settlement it will be the GAA who foot the bill for any costs.

The players acted against the expressed will of the GAA but will face zero repercussions for their actions.

You're a fool. The people taking legal action are fools, and like you are not proper Gaels.

Fools yes but not proper Gaels?  We know nothing about the personal circumstances of any one involved. Also I'm not sure there's a criteria to be a "proper" Gael.

Well there's certainly a criteria for not being one and these 8 fools fit it.

[Rossfan]

Can only Nordies be "proper gaels"?
Are there application forms?
Or is there a group of "super gaels" who decide who is or isn't a "proper gael"?

[Spiderlegs]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and only half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

[David McKeown]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation very well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

Only thing I'd say is. What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket. The argument will be there that there is some value to that guarantee that was wrongly advertised.

Even if the 8 (and let's remember that's all I know about from one source. It's unlikely but there could be others)get a ticket in the first come first served procedure on Wednesday there has still been a loss of value (will be the argument) for which some form of compensation should be offered.

[Milltown Row2]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and only half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

I'm not sure I've seen a post where it hasn't just mentioned the 8 nob heads on their own and left the rest of the buckfast drinking cultchie cousin loving Armagh supporters out of it...

[JoG2]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and only half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

What have those hoors been up to now?

[JoG2]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation very well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

Only thing I'd say is. What was offered with the season ticket was the guaranteed right to a ticket. The argument will be there that there is some value to that guarantee that was wrongly advertised.

Even if the 8 (and let's remember that's all I know about from one source. It's unlikely but there could be others)get a ticket in the first come first served procedure on Wednesday there has still been a loss of value (will be the argument) for which some form of compensation should be offered.

I've put up the small print on this twice already....tickets not guaranteed

[Armagh18]

David McKeown, you've explained the situation well and remained calm in doing so.
You don't necessarily approve of the legal action but accept their right to do so and understand the two very straightforward arguments in their favour.
I'm sure you've felt like screaming into a pillow during your postings.

As it stands, no-one has actually missed out until Wednesday's sale comes and goes but let's say the "Ticket Gate 8" are successful whether via court or quiet settlement, then what? Surely it will open it up to other aggrieved patrons who actually do end up missing out. Of course, many will refuse to take legal action regardless, myself included, and I would encourage against it but again the right to do so is acknowledged.

Just a word on the narky BS by some posters on here towards collective Armagh fans. Just like you within your county, we express many different views, opinions and attitudes across a multitude of topics worthy of discussing on here or elsewhere. Posting negativity about a comment from one or 2 people along the lines of "Armagh fans are the worst" is such cheap nonsense. So easy to respond with "Tyrone fans" this or "Donegal fans" that if one balloon pipes in with a bad take. Insert any county name here that you wish and the derogatory term works but is still totally baseless.

Buckfast Brigade and the likes. I would say its been 20 years since my one and only half bottle of buckfast :-)
Am I this Brigade lol?

The small minority of clowns who go to Armagh matches and are usually too drunk to watch it would the the "buckfast brigade" every county had them, but for some reason Armagh get the bad name. No mention of the row on the hill last year between 2 hurling counties supporters, or as recently as a few weeks ago in Tralee the Armagh lady who had her coat burned by a flare thrown at her by Kerry supporters or the Armagh supporters flag that was burned as well.