Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[Milltown Row2]

Aggrieved is a bit strong, being put out or having to settle to watch the game on telly is the worst that's going to come out of this. No one will miss the game, compensation for those unlucky to not get is definitely needed, but the claim culture in modern society means people are aggrieved if someone gives them a compliment.

Anyone defending these muppets is as bad

[Tony Baloney]

I think if you have bought season tickets for you and your family and cannot get tickets for this match you have a right to feel aggrieved. Does anyone disagree with that?

Antrim Gaels similarly have the right to feel aggrieved about the mess Ulster Council have made of Casement Park. Antrim Gaels no doubt are asking what their own county have done regarding facilities within the county and what fund raising is ongoing to address this in the future.

The legal case, for those prepared to take one, looks cut and dried. The GAA can rightly refuse to issue a match ticket if there isn't capacity but there doesn't appear to be anything in the Ts&Cs that allows the GAA to refuse to issue a match ticket to a season ticket holder so that they can issue the same ticket to someone else. The fact that the ticket is being issued to someone else by definition means that it is not a stadium capacity issue.

The wider position is complicated more by Antrim not having season ticket holders. But that won't affect the legal case.

I won't be taking any legal case but if I was a journalist I'd be asking the GAA if they are bound by contract law and will they be holding any other party to contract law? Their position on that could be quoted back to them before the Casement debacle concludes.

I wish I had so little in my life to worry about where I'm "aggrieved" to the point of legal action because I didn't get a ticket to a fairly meaningless match against Antrim. As I said previously - 8 sad bastards.

[Wildweasel74]

Its no different to a cancelled ticket of ticket master. Keep on going on about it. People just gonna take a serious dislike to Armagh ones, the longer it keeps going on. Match is in Antrim, live with it.

[armaghniac]

I think if you have bought season tickets for you and your family and cannot get tickets for this match you have a right to feel aggrieved. Does anyone disagree with that?

Antrim Gaels similarly have the right to feel aggrieved about the mess Ulster Council have made of Casement Park. Antrim Gaels no doubt are asking what their own county have done regarding facilities within the county and what fund raising is ongoing to address this in the future.

The legal case, for those prepared to take one, looks cut and dried. The GAA can rightly refuse to issue a match ticket if there isn't capacity but there doesn't appear to be anything in the Ts&Cs that allows the GAA to refuse to issue a match ticket to a season ticket holder so that they can issue the same ticket to someone else. The fact that the ticket is being issued to someone else by definition means that it is not a stadium capacity issue.

The wider position is complicated more by Antrim not having season ticket holders. But that won't affect the legal case.

I won't be taking any legal case but if I was a journalist I'd be asking the GAA if they are bound by contract law and will they be holding any other party to contract law? Their position on that could be quoted back to them before the Casement debacle concludes.

I wish I had so little in my life to worry about where I'm "aggrieved" to the point of legal action because I didn't get a ticket to a fairly meaningless match against Antrim. As I said previously - 8 sad bastards.

It is not the most important event, but a case would reduce bait and switch skulduggery in the future.

[Armagh18]

While my preference would always be for Antrim to get a home venue and as a season ticket holder from the start I would never be one of the 8 I find the embarrassing thing here is that so many have jumped on a poster who suggests a different view. What is the use of a forum if alternative views are treated this way?

The use of forum is to call fools fools for doing foolish things lol

[Armagh18]

I think if you have bought season tickets for you and your family and cannot get tickets for this match you have a right to feel aggrieved. Does anyone disagree with that?

Antrim Gaels similarly have the right to feel aggrieved about the mess Ulster Council have made of Casement Park. Antrim Gaels no doubt are asking what their own county have done regarding facilities within the county and what fund raising is ongoing to address this in the future.

The legal case, for those prepared to take one, looks cut and dried. The GAA can rightly refuse to issue a match ticket if there isn't capacity but there doesn't appear to be anything in the Ts&Cs that allows the GAA to refuse to issue a match ticket to a season ticket holder so that they can issue the same ticket to someone else. The fact that the ticket is being issued to someone else by definition means that it is not a stadium capacity issue.

The wider position is complicated more by Antrim not having season ticket holders. But that won't affect the legal case.

I won't be taking any legal case but if I was a journalist I'd be asking the GAA if they are bound by contract law and will they be holding any other party to contract law? Their position on that could be quoted back to them before the Casement debacle concludes.

I wish I had so little in my life to worry about where I'm "aggrieved" to the point of legal action because I didn't get a ticket to a fairly meaningless match against Antrim. As I said previously - 8 sad bastards.

Spot on

[Milltown Row2]

Yeah cause going to court is going to sort out everything!

That'll show them! Not

[trueblue1234]

I think if you have bought season tickets for you and your family and cannot get tickets for this match you have a right to feel aggrieved. Does anyone disagree with that?

Antrim Gaels similarly have the right to feel aggrieved about the mess Ulster Council have made of Casement Park. Antrim Gaels no doubt are asking what their own county have done regarding facilities within the county and what fund raising is ongoing to address this in the future.

The legal case, for those prepared to take one, looks cut and dried. The GAA can rightly refuse to issue a match ticket if there isn't capacity but there doesn't appear to be anything in the Ts&Cs that allows the GAA to refuse to issue a match ticket to a season ticket holder so that they can issue the same ticket to someone else. The fact that the ticket is being issued to someone else by definition means that it is not a stadium capacity issue.

The wider position is complicated more by Antrim not having season ticket holders. But that won't affect the legal case.

I won't be taking any legal case but if I was a journalist I'd be asking the GAA if they are bound by contract law and will they be holding any other party to contract law? Their position on that could be quoted back to them before the Casement debacle concludes.

I wish I had so little in my life to worry about where I'm "aggrieved" to the point of legal action because I didn't get a ticket to a fairly meaningless match against Antrim. As I said previously - 8 sad bastards.

It is not the most important event, but a case would reduce bait and switch skulduggery in the future.

Fair play to them for putting it up to the GAA. That'll teach them. Be heros in their own heads anyway.

[seafoid]

What is the latest with Casement? I seem to recall that some preliminary work was started a few months ago. How much did the Irish Government commit to the project?

[Tony Baloney]

I think if you have bought season tickets for you and your family and cannot get tickets for this match you have a right to feel aggrieved. Does anyone disagree with that?

Antrim Gaels similarly have the right to feel aggrieved about the mess Ulster Council have made of Casement Park. Antrim Gaels no doubt are asking what their own county have done regarding facilities within the county and what fund raising is ongoing to address this in the future.

The legal case, for those prepared to take one, looks cut and dried. The GAA can rightly refuse to issue a match ticket if there isn't capacity but there doesn't appear to be anything in the Ts&Cs that allows the GAA to refuse to issue a match ticket to a season ticket holder so that they can issue the same ticket to someone else. The fact that the ticket is being issued to someone else by definition means that it is not a stadium capacity issue.

The wider position is complicated more by Antrim not having season ticket holders. But that won't affect the legal case.

I won't be taking any legal case but if I was a journalist I'd be asking the GAA if they are bound by contract law and will they be holding any other party to contract law? Their position on that could be quoted back to them before the Casement debacle concludes.

I wish I had so little in my life to worry about where I'm "aggrieved" to the point of legal action because I didn't get a ticket to a fairly meaningless match against Antrim. As I said previously - 8 sad bastards.

It is not the most important event, but a case would reduce bait and switch skulduggery in the future.

Fair play to them for putting it up to the GAA. That'll teach them. Be heros in their own heads anyway.

Maybe put one of these, with an Armagh flag, at the Athletic Grounds.

[smelmoth]

Aggrieved is a bit strong, being put out or having to settle to watch the game on telly is the worst that's going to come out of this. No one will miss the game, compensation for those unlucky to not get is definitely needed, but the claim culture in modern society means people are aggrieved if someone gives them a compliment.

Anyone defending these muppets is as bad

I'm not sure that many are defending the "muppets". I don't know who they are or what their motivations are. I am however very interested in the outcome and I am not that annoyed that some persons are at least thinking of taking this further.

Aggrieved, seems a very appropriate word.
I'm not sure what the problem is with it?

People want to go to the game. I think we had 7k at a home match in a freezing cold Saturday night against Clare in Division 3. There is a huge appetite to attend games. Look at the crowd 2 hours before throw in for games in the Athletics ground as young and old try to get a seat before the mass crowd arrives.

Few in Armagh have ever said the game shouldn't be in Antrim and there is huge sympathy for Antrim's position. I had my worries about the game being in Corrigan Park as I couldn't see how more than a few Antrim fans could get a ticket. It looks like that injustice is being addressed by tearing up the Ts&Cs of the season ticket. And they are being torn up. The line that the capacity issue allows the Ulster Council to do what it's proposing is a fiction.

That's why I'm interested in the outcome. If we arrive at the point where the GAA can just renege on its obligations I'm not sure any of us will be celebrating that in the long run.

[smelmoth]

Its no different to a cancelled ticket of ticket master. Keep on going on about it. People just gonna take a serious dislike to Armagh ones, the longer it keeps going on. Match is in Antrim, live with it.

"Armagh ones"?

I don't think the views you are attributing to Armagh people actually apply to more than a very small few.

[BigGreenField]

I think if you have bought season tickets for you and your family and cannot get tickets for this match you have a right to feel aggrieved. Does anyone disagree with that?

Antrim Gaels similarly have the right to feel aggrieved about the mess Ulster Council have made of Casement Park. Antrim Gaels no doubt are asking what their own county have done regarding facilities within the county and what fund raising is ongoing to address this in the future.

The legal case, for those prepared to take one, looks cut and dried. The GAA can rightly refuse to issue a match ticket if there isn't capacity but there doesn't appear to be anything in the Ts&Cs that allows the GAA to refuse to issue a match ticket to a season ticket holder so that they can issue the same ticket to someone else. The fact that the ticket is being issued to someone else by definition means that it is not a stadium capacity issue.

The wider position is complicated more by Antrim not having season ticket holders. But that won't affect the legal case.

I won't be taking any legal case but if I was a journalist I'd be asking the GAA if they are bound by contract law and will they be holding any other party to contract law? Their position on that could be quoted back to them before the Casement debacle concludes.

I wish I had so little in my life to worry about where I'm "aggrieved" to the point of legal action because I didn't get a ticket to a fairly meaningless match against Antrim. As I said previously - 8 sad bastards.

It is not the most important event, but a case would reduce bait and switch skulduggery in the future.

Unless you are suggesting that Armagh County Board and/or Ulster Gaa knew in advance that they intended not to fulfill season ticket requirements then that isn't what bait and switch means.

Any Armagh fans I know are happy to give the game a miss if they have too,  mostly out of sympathy for the position Ulster Gaa (which includes all the other counties as well as Antrim) has left Casement in

if ticket holders want to reduce the matter to a purely commercial arrangement then I'm not sure the Gaa is the organisation for them.

Any evidence that this legal letter has actually been sent?

[David McKeown]

I think if you have bought season tickets for you and your family and cannot get tickets for this match you have a right to feel aggrieved. Does anyone disagree with that?

Antrim Gaels similarly have the right to feel aggrieved about the mess Ulster Council have made of Casement Park. Antrim Gaels no doubt are asking what their own county have done regarding facilities within the county and what fund raising is ongoing to address this in the future.

The legal case, for those prepared to take one, looks cut and dried. The GAA can rightly refuse to issue a match ticket if there isn't capacity but there doesn't appear to be anything in the Ts&Cs that allows the GAA to refuse to issue a match ticket to a season ticket holder so that they can issue the same ticket to someone else. The fact that the ticket is being issued to someone else by definition means that it is not a stadium capacity issue.

The wider position is complicated more by Antrim not having season ticket holders. But that won't affect the legal case.

I won't be taking any legal case but if I was a journalist I'd be asking the GAA if they are bound by contract law and will they be holding any other party to contract law? Their position on that could be quoted back to them before the Casement debacle concludes.

I wish I had so little in my life to worry about where I'm "aggrieved" to the point of legal action because I didn't get a ticket to a fairly meaningless match against Antrim. As I said previously - 8 sad bastards.

It is not the most important event, but a case would reduce bait and switch skulduggery in the future.

Unless you are suggesting that Armagh County Board and/or Ulster Gaa knew in advance that they intended not to fulfill season ticket requirements then that isn't what bait and switch means.

Any Armagh fans I know are happy to give the game a miss if they have too,  mostly out of sympathy for the position Ulster Gaa (which includes all the other counties as well as Antrim) has left Casement in

if ticket holders want to reduce the matter to a purely commercial arrangement then I'm not sure the Gaa is the organisation for them.

Any evidence that this legal letter has actually been sent?

The GAA knew at the time of the season ticket sales that Antrim had been drawn at home to Armagh, so whilst they may not have thought it through they probably should have and made people aware that there was a chance this might occur. Or at least changed the T's and C's to cover this.

The only evidence is I have been told directly by a solicitor within the firm that they were instructed to send it and it had been sent.  Ive no reason to doubt them but apart from that I am the only source.

I think Smelmoth has pretty much hit the nail on the head with this one.  Not a choice of action I'd take and I probably wouldn't be too fond of those who took such actions but at the same time can acknowledge that they have the legal right to such action.  I can see the argument that a major reason for purchasing a season ticket was to guarantee a ticket to this match and now after taking their money the GAA have shifted the goal posts possibly to meet obligations to sponsors rather than obligations to fans.  To try and claim that means those involved are not welcome in the association or aren't true gaels annoys me though.

[trueblue1234]

I think if you have bought season tickets for you and your family and cannot get tickets for this match you have a right to feel aggrieved. Does anyone disagree with that?

Antrim Gaels similarly have the right to feel aggrieved about the mess Ulster Council have made of Casement Park. Antrim Gaels no doubt are asking what their own county have done regarding facilities within the county and what fund raising is ongoing to address this in the future.

The legal case, for those prepared to take one, looks cut and dried. The GAA can rightly refuse to issue a match ticket if there isn't capacity but there doesn't appear to be anything in the Ts&Cs that allows the GAA to refuse to issue a match ticket to a season ticket holder so that they can issue the same ticket to someone else. The fact that the ticket is being issued to someone else by definition means that it is not a stadium capacity issue.

The wider position is complicated more by Antrim not having season ticket holders. But that won't affect the legal case.

I won't be taking any legal case but if I was a journalist I'd be asking the GAA if they are bound by contract law and will they be holding any other party to contract law? Their position on that could be quoted back to them before the Casement debacle concludes.

I wish I had so little in my life to worry about where I'm "aggrieved" to the point of legal action because I didn't get a ticket to a fairly meaningless match against Antrim. As I said previously - 8 sad bastards.

It is not the most important event, but a case would reduce bait and switch skulduggery in the future.

Unless you are suggesting that Armagh County Board and/or Ulster Gaa knew in advance that they intended not to fulfill season ticket requirements then that isn't what bait and switch means.

Any Armagh fans I know are happy to give the game a miss if they have too,  mostly out of sympathy for the position Ulster Gaa (which includes all the other counties as well as Antrim) has left Casement in

if ticket holders want to reduce the matter to a purely commercial arrangement then I'm not sure the Gaa is the organisation for them.

Any evidence that this legal letter has actually been sent?

The GAA knew at the time of the season ticket sales that Antrim had been drawn at home to Armagh, so whilst they may not have thought it through they probably should have and made people aware that there was a chance this might occur. Or at least changed the T's and C's to cover this.

The only evidence is I have been told directly by a solicitor within the firm that they were instructed to send it and it had been sent.  Ive no reason to doubt them but apart from that I am the only source.

I think Smelmoth has pretty much hit the nail on the head with this one.  Not a choice of action I'd take and I probably wouldn't be too fond of those who took such actions but at the same time can acknowledge that they have the legal right to such action.  I can see the argument that a major reason for purchasing a season ticket was to guarantee a ticket to this match and now after taking their money the GAA have shifted the goal posts possibly to meet obligations to sponsors rather than obligations to fans. To try and claim that means those involved are not welcome in the association or aren't true gaels annoys me though.

But a lot will have that viewpoint. I have that viewpoint, I think to take legal action against the organisation over something like this is pretty disgusting imo.