Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[LC]

Looking that way.

[armaghniac]

There is government money for the Euros, which is no longer going to Casement, and perhaps this would allow Pairc ui Chaoimh into the frame. The IFA could play there and Antrim too.

[Rossfan]

Nice long trip for the fleggers

[tiempo]

Nice long trip for the fleggers

Fleg sheggers

[twohands!!!]

What's going to happen is each of the four soccer associations are going to get one extra game - one for Ireland, one for England, one for Scotland and one for Wales.

Ireland might possibly get a second game (the fifth game NI was going to get) although I think it's likelier England will get it given that would earn UEFA the most money but with 2 extra games it would be the equivalent of setting money on fire to develop Cork for the Euros in 2028.

Martin and Burns are just venting hot air, Cork isn't going to get any games. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them know this full well, which is why Burns was clear to point out it would be a UEFA decision in the little he said.

Expect an "oh well we tried; UEFA did want they wanted, we're disappointed that Cork lost out" when the stadiums are announced.

[Rossfan]

English venues for the "Casement games" it seems


https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/business-of-sport/arid-41478436.html

[RadioGAAGAA]

Why do event management companies use stadia the world over when there's much cheaper alternatives? And yes, more capacity equals more money.

There is a careful balance of demand, opportunity, opportunity cost and venues within acceptable travel distance.

With Dublin just 2 hrs down the road, Casement will never attract the top level of event.

More capacity can equal more money. But in other cases it can equal less.
Lets say they decide to hold 2030 Belsonic at a hypothetical Casement with capacity 35,000.
But they only get a small uptick relative to the Ormeau Park. Say 18,000 people come along.
That'll almost certainly mean the organisers are out of pocket as they have to pay more to rent Casement than Ormeau.

All hypothetical, but just an example of how more capacity may not equal more money.

But there is a reason stadiums are used all the time.
They have all the facilities needed under 1 roof and access to the staff, stewards. They don't need a perimeter fenced constructed, manned with much more security, the building to temp toilets, bars, food provision, ticket offices, admin office, medical tents etc
If I'm going to a big concert, I'd rather be in a stadium than a flat park.

Taking that example, why is Windsor Park never used instead of Ormeau Park or Custom House Square for gigs?

Should also point out that Casement wouldn't have access to the staff or stewards as they are often volunteers.

[RadioGAAGAA]

As stated, a stadium is better than a park for a concert, easier to organise. Springsteen played in Nowlan Park this year, which is not that far from Dublin.

In a GAA ground, the "good" capacity is fairly well used, and the big game capacity is terraces which are relatively inexpensive to build and maintain.

Springsteen in Nowlan is a good example of the rare example.

He toured Ireland, and even did a gig in Belfast.

Instead of Boucher, he could have done Casement if it were available.... except there was ~40,000 already at it in Boucher. So with no significant capacity advantage Casement the venue would have had to compete with Boucher Road the venue on price.

... and we'll not bother to get involved with the undoubted legal minefield the residents around Casement will present.

[Norm-Peterson]

Puc would need a hell of a lot of cash thrown at it to bring it up to UEFA standards. The knocking down the old terracing and replacing it with identical terracing at great expense was absolute lunacy

The terracing at Casement park isn't that old either. I think it is from 1998 which makes it younger than the Cusack stand of Croke park and younger than Clones terracing.

Anyway, I am pleased Casement hasn't made the deadline as I don't want NI games at it anyway.

[GTP]

Should also point out that Casement wouldn't have access to the staff or stewards as they are often volunteers.

Boucher playing fields has limited access to staff and no stewards it is also a very average venue for a concert. They need to build a decent stadium preferably with majority seating. The days of a covered seated stand and some terraces round the rest should be well and truly behind us.

[weareros]

What's going to happen is each of the four soccer associations are going to get one extra game - one for Ireland, one for England, one for Scotland and one for Wales.

Ireland might possibly get a second game (the fifth game NI was going to get) although I think it's likelier England will get it given that would earn UEFA the most money but with 2 extra games it would be the equivalent of setting money on fire to develop Cork for the Euros in 2028.

Martin and Burns are just venting hot air, Cork isn't going to get any games. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them know this full well, which is why Burns was clear to point out it would be a UEFA decision in the little he said.

Expect an "oh well we tried; UEFA did want they wanted, we're disappointed that Cork lost out" when the stadiums are announced.

Martin is some clown. The newly developed Pairc Ui Chaoimh failed the test for the rugby World Cup in 2017, where criteria is nowhere near as strict as UEFA. Not a hope in hell of getting it.

[ck]

Cork wouldnt have the capacity or meet the UEFA standards. It's a non runner and I think everyone knows that.

[johnnycool]

Should also point out that Casement wouldn't have access to the staff or stewards as they are often volunteers.

Boucher playing fields has limited access to staff and no stewards it is also a very average venue for a concert. They need to build a decent stadium preferably with majority seating. The days of a covered seated stand and some terraces round the rest should be well and truly behind us.

Eventsec staff are bussed to Dublin for any big concerts in Croke Park and Lansdowne Road.

It wouldn't be a big deal for busses to come North.

[Milltown Row2]

Should also point out that Casement wouldn't have access to the staff or stewards as they are often volunteers.

Boucher playing fields has limited access to staff and no stewards it is also a very average venue for a concert. They need to build a decent stadium preferably with majority seating. The days of a covered seated stand and some terraces round the rest should be well and truly behind us.

Eventsec staff are bussed to Dublin for any big concerts in Croke Park and Lansdowne Road.

It wouldn't be a big deal for busses to come North.

Yeah eventsec for the AC/DC concert bussed in 7 busses

[RadioGAAGAA]

Should also point out that Casement wouldn't have access to the staff or stewards as they are often volunteers.

Boucher playing fields has limited access to staff and no stewards it is also a very average venue for a concert. They need to build a decent stadium preferably with majority seating. The days of a covered seated stand and some terraces round the rest should be well and truly behind us.

Eventsec staff are bussed to Dublin for any big concerts in Croke Park and Lansdowne Road.

It wouldn't be a big deal for busses to come North.

Yep, indeed.

Point of course being, that Casement does not have a ready supply of stewards on tap waiting for Aiken promotions to pick up the phone - its just like any other temporary concert venue in that regard.