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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #3405 on: October 29, 2020, 10:27:01 AM »
Unreal...Casement has got planning approval and the stadium is finally going ahead and people are still talking about building it somewhere else...Jesus wept.

P.S. Lurgan is better than Dungannon as we've a train station and a M1 motorway and prob more central than Dungannon. So i've seen ya and raised ya... ;)

Can your albino lad Paul I think his name was, pull up the chip van he used to park outside the school rock up and offer everyone a "bean topper"?


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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #3406 on: October 29, 2020, 10:32:32 AM »
Yeah, youíre right. It needs to be in the city for concerts as big artists and music lovers wouldnít head to places like Dungannon, Thurles, Punchestown, Stradbally and Slane..... ::)

Not that Iím advocating building the stadium in Dungannon.

The last concert in Thurles was pulled because they couldnít sell enough tickets

Punchestown is also long gone

Slane isnít an annual event

Which leaves Stradbally as the last major annual camping out festival,good luck to you if want to do similar with Dungannon

The reality is that most major concerts are held in city stadia for reasons such as accessibility,size,comfort,bars and concessions

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« Reply #3407 on: October 29, 2020, 10:37:36 AM »
Yeah, youíre right. It needs to be in the city for concerts as big artists and music lovers wouldnít head to places like Dungannon, Thurles, Punchestown, Stradbally and Slane..... ::)

Not that Iím advocating building the stadium in Dungannon.

The last concert in Thurles was pulled because they couldnít sell enough tickets

Punchestown is also long gone

Slane isnít an annual event

Which leaves Stradbally as the last major annual camping out festival,good luck to you if want to do similar with Dungannon

The reality is that most major concerts are held in city stadia for reasons such as accessibility,size,comfort,bars and concessions

But the stadia are built for sporting reasons and they then compete for concerts.

The sporting rationale for this stadium is stronger outside Belfast. And Belfast already has stadia and outdoor concert venues.

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #3408 on: October 29, 2020, 10:43:54 AM »
Yeah, youíre right. It needs to be in the city for concerts as big artists and music lovers wouldnít head to places like Dungannon, Thurles, Punchestown, Stradbally and Slane..... ::)

Not that Iím advocating building the stadium in Dungannon.

The last concert in Thurles was pulled because they couldnít sell enough tickets

Punchestown is also long gone

Slane isnít an annual event

Which leaves Stradbally as the last major annual camping out festival,good luck to you if want to do similar with Dungannon

The reality is that most major concerts are held in city stadia for reasons such as accessibility,size,comfort,bars and concessions
Letís face it, Andytown wouldnít be everyoneís go to choice for major concert venues either (indeed, have a read of michaelgís posts a couple of pages back about the reluctance of some people on one side of the community to attend events at that location) but it doesnít need to be because we are building a GAA stadium. Is it plausible that you could have 3 sell out gigs a year at it? If your answer is yes, then I donít see how the same doesnít apply to Dungannon.

Again, not that any of this matters as Iím not asking for it to be moved to Dungannon nor do I expect it to be.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2020, 11:01:09 AM by hardstation »


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« Reply #3409 on: October 29, 2020, 10:55:18 AM »
Ulster finals are known for warm sunny days with kids demanding refreshing ice cream. Fcuk all worth talking about in Lurgan to provide that service.

V good...I'm sure we could find them something ;)
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« Reply #3410 on: October 29, 2020, 11:46:00 AM »
Yeah, youíre right. It needs to be in the city for concerts as big artists and music lovers wouldnít head to places like Dungannon, Thurles, Punchestown, Stradbally and Slane..... ::)

Not that Iím advocating building the stadium in Dungannon.

The last concert in Thurles was pulled because they couldnít sell enough tickets

Punchestown is also long gone

Slane isnít an annual event

Which leaves Stradbally as the last major annual camping out festival,good luck to you if want to do similar with Dungannon

The reality is that most major concerts are held in city stadia for reasons such as accessibility,size,comfort,bars and concessions

But the stadia are built for sporting reasons and they then compete for concerts.

The sporting rationale for this stadium is stronger outside Belfast. And Belfast already has stadia and outdoor concert venues.


Belfast is the second largest city on the Island,if you want to develop and enhance the GAAs presence in the largest urban centers where letís face it most of the population movement is now to.

You need an adequately developed stadium  in a city environment

Lads suggesting lurgan or Dungannon is the equivalent of not developing Croke park in the 1990ís and moving it out to Newbridge or Portlaoise.

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« Reply #3411 on: October 29, 2020, 11:47:25 AM »
Dungannon as much as its a lovely place doesn't have hotels that would be able to facilitate large venue concerts

As for Motorway, Casement is on the motorway and has a train station about 20 minute walk away.. would be amazing if the infrastructure was able to facilitate a walkway from under the motorway up towards the back of Casement with parking near Malusk park...

Either way its being built..

Andytown is no different to Northside Dublin, and people head there in their droves!   
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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #3412 on: October 29, 2020, 11:50:46 AM »
Dungannon as much as its a lovely place doesn't have hotels that would be able to facilitate large venue concerts

As for Motorway, Casement is on the motorway and has a train station about 20 minute walk away.. would be amazing if the infrastructure was able to facilitate a walkway from under the motorway up towards the back of Casement with parking near Malusk park...

Either way its being built..

Andytown is no different to Northside Dublin, and people head there in their droves!
Andytown is much nicer than that kip, thank you very much.
And bloody well good luck to you walking from Mallusk Park!


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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #3413 on: October 29, 2020, 11:59:21 AM »
As someone said the project and the Government money is for Casement, not for wherever GAAboarders think is best.
So get on with building what ye can with the money that's available.
There won't be any more cash from GAA or the public purse for 3 or 4 years at best thanks to Covid.
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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #3414 on: October 29, 2020, 12:03:02 PM »
As someone said the project and the Government money is for Casement, not for wherever GAAboarders think is best.
So get on with building what ye can with the money that's available.
There won't be any more cash from GAA or the public purse for 3 or 4 years at best thanks to Covid.
Itís fascinating that GAAboarders have entirely no say on where the stadium should be built but seem to have a massive input into how much it should cost and how it should be funded.


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« Reply #3415 on: October 29, 2020, 12:17:09 PM »
If you go to any stadium in Britain for a big match expect a longish walk. 20 mins from casement covers a pretty wide area to possibly park up. Still some will try and park at the front gate ;D

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #3416 on: October 29, 2020, 12:23:51 PM »
If you go to any stadium in Britain for a big match expect a longish walk. 20 mins from casement covers a pretty wide area to possibly park up. Still some will try and park at the front gate ;D
That and the belief that you cannot drive to Casement without being on Kennedy Way.


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« Reply #3417 on: October 29, 2020, 05:13:19 PM »
Yeah, youíre right. It needs to be in the city for concerts as big artists and music lovers wouldnít head to places like Dungannon, Thurles, Punchestown, Stradbally and Slane..... ::)

Not that Iím advocating building the stadium in Dungannon.

The last concert in Thurles was pulled because they couldnít sell enough tickets

Punchestown is also long gone

Slane isnít an annual event

Which leaves Stradbally as the last major annual camping out festival,good luck to you if want to do similar with Dungannon

The reality is that most major concerts are held in city stadia for reasons such as accessibility,size,comfort,bars and concessions

But the stadia are built for sporting reasons and they then compete for concerts.

The sporting rationale for this stadium is stronger outside Belfast. And Belfast already has stadia and outdoor concert venues.


Belfast is the second largest city on the Island,if you want to develop and enhance the GAAs presence in the largest urban centers where letís face it most of the population movement is now to.

You need an adequately developed stadium  in a city environment

Lads suggesting lurgan or Dungannon is the equivalent of not developing Croke park in the 1990ís and moving it out to Newbridge or Portlaoise.

Belfast needs a stadium. Iím not arguing against it. Work out what the Antrim/Belfast requirement is and seek planning and funding for that.

The Newbridge/Portlaoise argument is bogus. Dublin have a baseline requirement for a large stadium and the GAA have a peak requirement for something close to 100k capacity. Allied to the history of CP it was the obvious choice.

Antrimís baseline requirement is not comparable and nowhere remotely close to the Casement capacity.
Ulster GAAís requirement probably isnít as high as the original Casement ambition.
The GAA requirement within Ulster does not centre around Belfast. Dungannon would have been more logical.
The hotel argument made by others is weak. Belfast has hotels but it also has existing concert venues. What is the argument that it needs another one for 3 nights a year?

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Re: Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.
« Reply #3418 on: October 29, 2020, 05:15:26 PM »
As someone said the project and the Government money is for Casement, not for wherever GAAboarders think is best.
So get on with building what ye can with the money that's available.
There won't be any more cash from GAA or the public purse for 3 or 4 years at best thanks to Covid.

Currently the project is not going ahead. The available budget is currently insufficient. This has a way to go