Ulster Intermediate and Junior Club Championships 2010

Started by DownFanatic, October 04, 2010, 04:44:05 PM

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imtommygunn

So wanderer are you going to back up your statements about o'donnels with evidence?

fitzroyalty

Intermediate Odds available on paddypower

4/7 Derrylaughan 7/1 Doohamlet 8/5
1/2 Cross 7/1 Burren 2/1
4/6 Naomh Conaill 6/1 Coalisland 13/8
evns Lisnaskea 6/1 Rasharkin evns

Milltown Row2

Lisnakea and Rasharkin price has changed completly, Lisnaskea's price has went down to 4/11 !!!! seems Rasharking are only playing with 10 men now.

Evens to 4/11 very strange
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

haranguerer

Nah, the skea lads just being confident. They've justified it too, comfortable win

down6061689194

Swanlinbar 0-16 Drumaness 0-7

9 points at the end, keeper saved us.

Swan must be favourites for ulster. They are excellent

FarneyMan

Corduff  0-15 v Grange   0-10

I'd be thinking Corduff would be favourites, Monaghan Junior champs have won the last 2 ulster titles, one game away now from another !

Junior football very strong and competitive in Monaghan.........

Bogball XV

Quote from: haranguerer on November 14, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Nah, the skea lads just being confident. They've justified it too, comfortable win
Should Skea really be intermediate?

clarshack


FermGael

Quote from: Bogball XV on November 15, 2010, 10:05:10 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on November 14, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Nah, the skea lads just being confident. They've justified it too, comfortable win
Should Skea really be intermediate?

Probably BogBall.  They are a senior club playing in the intermediate grade.
They are in the Fermanagh League final this weekend. 
Wanted.  Forwards to take frees.
Not fussy.  Any sort of ability will be considered

tintin25

Quote from: clarshack on November 15, 2010, 11:21:09 AM
Quote from: Bogball XV on November 15, 2010, 10:05:10 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on November 14, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Nah, the skea lads just being confident. They've justified it too, comfortable win
Should Skea really be intermediate?

no

It was only last year that they were in Division 2 though.  You could argue that Sarsfields (Armagh) shouldn't have been intermediate either, but sure it didn't matter as they were beaten early on in the competition.  Think it will be a close final between Lisnaskea and Doohamlet.

haranguerer

Quote from: Bogball XV on November 15, 2010, 10:05:10 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on November 14, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Nah, the skea lads just being confident. They've justified it too, comfortable win
Should Skea really be intermediate?

The criteria has never threw up any anomalies in the past. Promoted teams play in the intermediate ch'ship in the year after their promotion. In this case its meant a strong team playing becuase Skea have had quite a meteoric rise back to form. They're a big enough club etc, so it probably was just a dip, and boys etc probably came back when things started going well again, but generally the criteria is accurate.


Doohamlet had a big win too.

DownFanatic

Down's system of grading is probably the most honest in all of the Ulster counties. That more than likely explains why we rarely get to Provincial IFC/JFC finals.

nrico2006

Quote from: DownFanatic on November 15, 2010, 11:22:34 PM
Down's system of grading is probably the most honest in all of the Ulster counties. That more than likely explains why we rarely get to Provincial IFC/JFC finals.

Tyrone also do it honestly, 3 Divisions (3 corresponding Championships) with the Senior winners, Intermediate winners and Junior winners all coming from the appropriate division, none of this craic like in Fermanagh and Armagh where teams who are Division 1 can play Intermediate etc.  How is Antrim run, I recall they had something similar in place for the hurling where a team could be in Division 2 and play Junior Championship.  I remember one year a Division 2 team playing a Division 4 team in the Junior Championship (with the Division 2 team actually getting beat).
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

clarshack

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Quote from: DownFanatic on November 15, 2010, 11:22:34 PM
Down's system of grading is probably the most honest in all of the Ulster counties. That more than likely explains why we rarely get to Provincial IFC/JFC finals.

the tyrone and monaghan systems are pretty honest too. 3 tiers of league and championship. 1st tier - senior, 2nd tier intermediate and 3rd tier junior. in this system division 1/senior league teams cannot play in intermediate championship and division 2/intermediate league teams cannot play in junior championship (which happens in quite a few counties and is unfair - the kerry intermediate and especially their junior system is blatant cheating tbh).

tintin25

Quote from: clarshack on November 16, 2010, 08:31:21 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on November 15, 2010, 11:22:34 PM
Down's system of grading is probably the most honest in all of the Ulster counties. That more than likely explains why we rarely get to Provincial IFC/JFC finals.

the tyrone and monaghan systems are pretty honest too. 3 tiers of league and championship. 1st tier - senior, 2nd tier intermediate and 3rd tier junior. in this system division 1/senior league teams cannot play in intermediate championship and division 2/intermediate league teams cannot play in junior championship (which happens in quite a few counties and is unfair - the kerry intermediate and especially their junior system is blatant cheating tbh).


Well, if this system had of been applied to Fermanagh this year then both St.Patrick's and Enniskillen Gaels would have been eligible for the Intermediate Championship.  Both have participated in the Senior Ulster Club Championship in the past.  St Patrick's got to the senior county final this year.  I think the system in place is fair enough.