Ireland To Gaza 3

[PadraicHenryPearse]

If you cannot see a difference between Israeli actions over the last 60 years to the eygptians action of the past 4 then so be it. It hard to sell peace to the middle east when europe russia and the US didn't repect the results of a democratic election. But the eygpians don't control Gaza airspace, movement of people, water etc. thats the Israelis. The eygptians don't carry out extra judical killings, detroy homes, build walls, and steal land from the Palestinians again that is the Israelis. Please piss off this thread as you add nothing but an unwanted distraction to some good work done by a fellow poster.

[Arthur_Friend]

Not getting much time for internet folks, so I will post the following report sent out today.

Everything is now on track for arrival in Gaza in 4 days time or so.
Will keep you posted.


After a tense ten day stand off in Syria, the Viva Palestina aid convoy to Gaza has now been cleared to sail.

The convoy started out from London on Saturday 18th September and drove down through France, Italy, Greece and Turkey before arriving in the port of Latakia, Syria, on Saturday 2nd October. In Latakia, the convoy has been joined by two other convoys. One came from Morocco and Algeria, the other originated in Doha and came through the Gulf states and Jordan.

There are now 147 vehicles about to board two ships together with 380 people from some 30 countries stretching from New Zealand and Australia to Canada and the United States carrying aid worth some 5 million dollars. This includes 40 people who were on the Mavi Marmara flotilla which was attacked by Israeli commandos murdering ten human rights activists from Turkey.

Over the last ten days in Syria, the convoy has taken on medical supplies urgently needed in the besieged Gaza Strip. Simultaneously negotiations have been conducted with the Egyptian authorities to allow passage into the port of Al Arish and then on to the Rafah Crossing. The support of the Syrian authorities and others has been vital in the successful negotiations.

Last night word finally came through that the Egyptian authorities would allow the ships to dock, unload and passage through to the Rafah Crossing and Gaza would be guaranteed.
The ships will now sail past the place where the Mavi Marmara was attacked and flowers will be laid in memory of the victims. When the convoy reaches Gaza the soil from the graves of some of those who were murdered will be used to plant trees as a memorial to the Mavi Marmara victims.

The convoy hopes to reach Gaza this Saturday or Sunday

Glad to hear that John. Keep up the good work.  Egypt dont look that bad after all TO.

Really Carmen   ... If Galloway and the other terrorist sponsors nestled in with this convoy would put themselves on a plane to fcuk
out of there they'd have sailed by now....clear evidence that Galloway is every bit the dangerous cnut that I've said he is when he can't
set aside his attention seeking whorism in favour of getting the aid to these people

Tea party... whether I'm male or Female.... Yawning.... to the Saul Alinsky tactics of trying to Silence me.... the infatuation continues
Anything and everything but step up and debunk the very valid points and or heavens forbid answers to the questions I've asked here
if that is, I am as wrong as ye would try to have the neutral here believe.
Surely for a "Tea party Moran" I should be easy enough to put straight what with the sheer intellectual brilliance on display here on a daily basis 

Ok, I'll indulge you just this once. Let's dissect your first paragraph (the bit I have highlighted) and see if there is anything coherent there..In fact let's just start with the first sentence...

Quote: If Galloway and the other terrorist sponsors nestled in with this convoy would put themselves on a plane to fcuk
out of there they'd have sailed by now....

This statement raises many questions. Specifically, what is the terrorism of which you are referring? In what way is George Galloway sponsoring this terrorism? Who are the other terrorist sponsors 'nestled' in the convoy? What evidence do you have that they are terrorist sponsors? What evidence do you have that if these 'terrorist sponsors' weren't part of the convoy that the convoy would have sailed by now? Do you have insider knowledge of Egyptian policy with regards to this convoy to make this statement?

You made the statement so please be specific with your answers...

[Tyrones own]

This statement raises many questions. Specifically, what is the terrorism of which you are referring?

The Latest George Galloway Stunt: Expect More Lies.
Fiction, reported in the Globe and Mail: "I didn't give any money to Hamas, I gave it to the ministry of health in Gaza to pay for the salaries of the doctors and nurses who hadn't been paid. By the way, we're talking about 20 odd thousand pounds, not millions. It's a symbolic donation. I gave it to the ministry of health in Gaza and I'm proud to have done so."

Fact, by Galloway's own admission, broadcast on several Arab television stations: "I, now, here, on behalf of myself, my sister Yvonne Ridley, and the two Respect councillors – Muhammad Ishtiaq and Naim Khan – are giving three cars and 25,000 pounds in cash to Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh. Here is the money. This is not charity. This is politics." Not charity, but politics. Not to "doctors and nurses who hadn't been paid," but to the Hamas gangster "Prime Minister" Ismail Haniyeh who, in fact, is not and was not the Prime Minister of Palestine.

Fiction: Galloway's Viva Palestina raised £1 million for the suffering Palestinians of Gaza. Fact: "However, based on information obtained from PayPal and the IBB, the Commission was able to identify only approximately £180,000 as having been raised for the Charity. If the website's claims were accurate this raised concerns that approximately £820,000 was unaccounted for."

Fact: Months before Galloway handed over three cars and a bag of cash to the head of a gang of clerical-fascist, Jew-hating lunatics who have pretty well strangled the prospect of a free Palestinian state in the womb - and Galloway has admitted to the British Charity Commission that this was "'personal money' that had been handed to Hamas" - the Government of Canada had already provided $4 million in emergency relief to the people of Gaza.

Galloway wasn't banned from Canada, either. Section 34 (1) of Canada's Immigration and Refugee Protection Act specifically cites "engaging in terrorism" as grounds to prevent a person from entering Canada. Engaging in terrorism includes raising money for terrorist groups. In Canada, the death cult Hamas, the worst enemy the cause of Palestinian freedom has ever faced, is listed as a proscribed terrorist group.

If you are a triggerman or a bagman for a proscribed terrorist organization, you are normally considered inadmissible to Canada, and being a rich celebrity white guy with a British passport and a cult following  in this country doesn't mean you're above the law. The Canadian High Commission showed Galloway the courtesy of letting him know that. That is all.

Actually I do apologize...I should have added personally supports it 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpTAqwwiya0

What evidence do you have that if these 'terrorist sponsors' weren't part of the convoy that the convoy would have sailed by now?

Why don't you ask Dixey...he'll have no choice but to admit that one of the reasons for the delay is that Galloway among others were being denied...
..don't take my word for it, ask him!

[PadraicHenryPearse]

by those standards the israeli government are also terrorists as they also funded Hamas. Do you accept that TO?

[Tyrones own]

by those standards the israeli government are also terrorists as they also funded Hamas. Do you accept that TO?

Yes indeed they did, beginning with an effort to combat the power and influence of the PLO.
Now will you then accept what I've been trying to get across all along...that they're each as bad as the other?
And might I add PHP...at least they don't deny the funding, Galloway on the other hand.........

[andoireabu]

Tyrone's Own

Is the above post (the one with a lot of itallics) your own words or quoted from somewhere?

[Tyrones own]

Tyrone's Own

Is the above post (the one with a lot of itallics) your own words or quoted from somewhere?

It was a quote;
Or here's the same thing on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMWr203BjOM&feature=related

[PadraicHenryPearse]

no i cannot accept that. I don't believe that they are bad as each other. I believe the Palestinians are under attack, their land been stolen, treated as second class citizens. This causes all the other stuff. Israel have the power to bring about a solution but all they do is pour fuel on the fire and steal more land

[Arthur_Friend]

Tyrone's Own

Is the above post (the one with a lot of itallics) your own words or quoted from somewhere?

It was a quote;
Or here's the same thing on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMWr203BjOM&feature=related

It was a quote and here is where it was quoted from

http://transmontanus.blogspot.com/2010/04/latest-george-galloway-stunt-expect.html

The only problem for TO and his blogger mate is that it seems Canadian Federal Court Judge Richard Mosley disagrees that George Galloway sponsors terrorism.

http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2010/2010fc957/2010fc957.html

See specifically paragraphs - [7], [10], [14], [16], [18], [37] the Canadians refer to the Hamas Prime Minister, unlike your blogger mate , [86], [91], [98], [99], [107], [108, 109], [110], [111, 112], [114], [115], [119], [122].

[andoireabu]

Tyrone's Own

Is the above post (the one with a lot of itallics) your own words or quoted from somewhere?

It was a quote;
Or here's the same thing on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMWr203BjOM&feature=related

It was a quote and here is where it was quoted from

http://transmontanus.blogspot.com/2010/04/latest-george-galloway-stunt-expect.html

The only problem for TO and his blogger mate is that it seems Canadian Federal Court Judge Richard Mosley disagrees that George Galloway sponsors terrorism.

http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2010/2010fc957/2010fc957.html

See specifically paragraphs - [7], [10], [14], [16], [18], [37] the Canadians refer to the Hamas Prime Minister, unlike your blogger mate , [86], [91], [98], [99], [107], [108, 109], [110], [111, 112], [114], [115], [119], [122].

So then are the "facts" and "fiction" actually that or are they just a persons opinion?

Would you agree with all that is said in that blog TO?

[Tyrones own]

Tyrone's Own

Is the above post (the one with a lot of itallics) your own words or quoted from somewhere?

It was a quote;
Or here's the same thing on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMWr203BjOM&feature=related

It was a quote and here is where it was quoted from

http://transmontanus.blogspot.com/2010/04/latest-george-galloway-stunt-expect.html

The only problem for TO and his blogger mate is that it seems Canadian Federal Court Judge Richard Mosley disagrees that George Galloway sponsors terrorism.

http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2010/2010fc957/2010fc957.html

See specifically paragraphs - [7], [10], [14], [16], [18], [37] the Canadians refer to the Hamas Prime Minister, unlike your blogger mate , [86], [91], [98], [99], [107], [108, 109], [110], [111, 112], [114], [115], [119], [122].

Ach sure here it is from the horses mouth above...do keep up
except he didn't have the balls to admit it..lying Cnut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMWr203BjOM&feature=related

[Tyrones own]

Tyrone's Own

Is the above post (the one with a lot of itallics) your own words or quoted from somewhere?

It was a quote;
Or here's the same thing on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMWr203BjOM&feature=related

It was a quote and here is where it was quoted from

http://transmontanus.blogspot.com/2010/04/latest-george-galloway-stunt-expect.html

The only problem for TO and his blogger mate is that it seems Canadian Federal Court Judge Richard Mosley disagrees that George Galloway sponsors terrorism.

http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2010/2010fc957/2010fc957.html

See specifically paragraphs - [7], [10], [14], [16], [18], [37] the Canadians refer to the Hamas Prime Minister, unlike your blogger mate , [86], [91], [98], [99], [107], [108, 109], [110], [111, 112], [114], [115], [119], [122].

So then are the "facts" and "fiction" actually that or are they just a persons opinion?

Would you agree with all that is said in that blog TO?

Yes! did you even bother to watch the youtube video I posted for you.?

[Tyrones own]

no i cannot accept that. I don't believe that they are bad as each other. I believe the Palestinians are under attack, their land been stolen, treated as second class citizens. This causes all the other stuff. Israel have the power to bring about a solution but all they do is pour fuel on the fire and steal more land

Shocker  That's about what I expected...with the hatred on this board alone for Israel one can just imagine the amplification of it on a daily basis from their surroundings compounded heavily with propaganda from brainwashed useful idiots the world over..then it's shock horror be it right or wrong when they act accordingly 
Contrary to popular belief Israel do not hold the keys to this outcome... nothing they could or would do would be good enough for the haters bar wiping themselves off the map and since that's not going to happen, WTF do ye actually expect out of them

[Arthur_Friend]

Tyrone's Own

Is the above post (the one with a lot of itallics) your own words or quoted from somewhere?

It was a quote;
Or here's the same thing on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMWr203BjOM&feature=related

It was a quote and here is where it was quoted from

http://transmontanus.blogspot.com/2010/04/latest-george-galloway-stunt-expect.html

The only problem for TO and his blogger mate is that it seems Canadian Federal Court Judge Richard Mosley disagrees that George Galloway sponsors terrorism.

http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2010/2010fc957/2010fc957.html

See specifically paragraphs - [7], [10], [14], [16], [18], [37] the Canadians refer to the Hamas Prime Minister, unlike your blogger mate , [86], [91], [98], [99], [107], [108, 109], [110], [111, 112], [114], [115], [119], [122].

So then are the "facts" and "fiction" actually that or are they just a persons opinion?

Would you agree with all that is said in that blog TO?

More to the point does he know better than a Canadian Federal Court Judge, whom I am sure examined all the evidence available to him, and is legally obliged to make a fair judgement based on that evidence... Well do you know better TO?

[Arthur_Friend]

[18]           The purpose and distribution of the aid delivered by the convoy is not disputed by the respondents. There is no evidence in the record that it was used by Hamas for any terrorist purpose. The unchallenged evidence in the record is that the cash delivered by Galloway was used to buy incubators and pediatric dialysis units for a Gaza hospital.