2010 All Stars

[overthehill]

And us.
But hey, he's only human.

So who actually did he play well against? remember that he shit in the nest last 15 agin Cork as well.

No he didn't.
He destroyed several different markers in the Armagh, Tyrone & Cork games.
It's laughable that anyone would even suggest Clarke deserves POTY ahead of him.

I suggest you watch the last 15 mins of that game again. Two horrible wides and two schoolboy wrong options cost Dublin the game. For the record I think Clarke needs a big game in the final to swing it as he didn't exactly cover himself in glory in the last few minutes against Kildare either but to give player of the year to someone who not only didn't make the final but actually cost his team their place there is 'laughable'.

If Clarke has good AI Final hes a shoe-in and deservadly so!!

[southdown]

Has a player ever won POTY without apperaring in the final?

[Sean3]

Has a player ever won POTY without apperaring in the final?

Tony Browne in 1998

[REDCOL]

2009 Tomás Ó Sé Kerry An Gaeltacht Played right-half back
2008 Sean Cavanagh Tyrone Moy Played at full forward
2007 Marc Ó Sé Kerry An Ghaeltacht Corner back
2006 Kieran Donaghy Kerry Austin Stacks Full Forward
2005 Stephen O'Neill Tyrone Clan Na Gael Full Forward
2004 Colm Cooper Kerry Dr Crokes Corner Forward
2003 Peter Canavan Tyrone Eirigail Ciaran Full Forward
2002 Kieran McGeeney Armagh Na Fianna Centre Back
2001 Padraig Joyce Galway Kilererin Full Forward
2000 Séamus Moynihan Kerry Glenflesk Centre Back
1999 Trevor Giles Meath Skryne Centre Forward
1998 Michael Donnellan Galway Dunmore Wing Forward
1997 Maurice Fitzgerald Kerry St. Mary's Cahirciveen Corner Forward
1996 Martin O'Connell Meath St. Michaels Wing Back
1995 Paul Curran Dublin Thomas Davis Wing Back
1994 Mickey Linden Down Mayobridge Corner Forward
1993 Henry Downey Derry Lavey GAC Centre Forward
1992 Martin McHugh Donegal Kilcar Centre Forward
1991 Colm O'Rourke Meath Skryne One of only two winners to win, despite their county not winning that year's All-Ireland.
1990 Shea Fahy Cork Nemo Rangers 
1989 Teddy McCarthy Cork Glanmire 
1988 Robbie O'Malley Meath St Colmcille's 
1987 Brian Stafford Meath Kilmainhamwood Full Forward
1986 Pat Spillane Kerry Templenoe Wing Forward, second win.
1985 Jack O'Shea Kerry St. Mary's Cahirciveen Midfield, fourth win.
1984 Jack O'Shea Kerry St. Mary's Cahirciveen Midfield, third win.
1983 Tommy Drumm Dublin   
1982 Martin Furlong Offaly  Goalkeeper
1981 Jack O'Shea Kerry St. Mary's Cahirciveen Midfield, second win.
1980 Jack O'Shea Kerry St. Mary's Cahirciveen Midfield
1979 Mikey Sheehy Kerry Austin Stacks Corner Forward
1978 Pat Spillane Kerry Templenoe Wing Forward
1977 Jimmy Keaveney Dublin St Vincents Full Forward, second win.
1976 Jimmy Keaveney Dublin St Vincents Full Forward
1975 John O'Keeffe Kerry Austin Stacks Full Back
1974 Kevin Heffernan Dublin St Vincents The only person to be awarded this award while not a player but a manager.
1973 Billy Morgan Cork Nemo Rangers Goalkeeper
1972 Willie Bryan Offaly   
1971 Eugene Mulligan Offaly Rhode 
1970 Tom Prendergast Kerry Keel 
1969 Mick O'Dwyer Kerry Waterville Wing Forward
1968 Seán O'Neill Down Newry Mitchel's 
1967 Bertie Cunningham Meath Ballivor 
1966 Mattie McDonagh Galway Ballygar 
1965 Martin Newall Galway  ?? 
1964 Noel Tierney Galway  ?? 
1963 Lar Foley Dublin St Vincents 
1962 Mick O'Connell Kerry Young Islanders Midfield
1961 James McCartan (Sr.) Down  ?? Second win.
1960 James McCartan (Sr.) Down  ?? 
1959 Seán Murphy Kerry Camp 
1958 Jim McKeever Derry Ballymaguigan Inaugural winner. One of only two winners to win, despite their county not winning that year's 

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1961 James McCartan (Sr.) Down Glenn Second win.
1960 James McCartan (Sr.) Down Glenn

[J OGorman]

Re Bernard Brogan and Martin Clarke....both fabulous players and an absolute pleasure to watch. Clarke has had an incredible 1st year in a senior championship. Brogan has had an incredible championship also, with much more weight on his shoulders than MC

Pearce O'Neill, another damn fine player could be the difference on Sunday

should be a belter

[nrico2006]

2009 Tomás Ó Sé Kerry An Gaeltacht Played right-half back
2008 Sean Cavanagh Tyrone Moy Played at full forward
2007 Marc Ó Sé Kerry An Ghaeltacht Corner back
2006 Kieran Donaghy Kerry Austin Stacks Full Forward
2005 Stephen O'Neill Tyrone Clan Na Gael Full Forward
2004 Colm Cooper Kerry Dr Crokes Corner Forward
2003 Peter Canavan Tyrone Eirigail Ciaran Full Forward
2002 Kieran McGeeney Armagh Na Fianna Centre Back
2001 Padraig Joyce Galway Kilererin Full Forward
2000 Séamus Moynihan Kerry Glenflesk Centre Back
1999 Trevor Giles Meath Skryne Centre Forward
1998 Michael Donnellan Galway Dunmore Wing Forward
1997 Maurice Fitzgerald Kerry St. Mary's Cahirciveen Corner Forward
1996 Martin O'Connell Meath St. Michaels Wing Back
1995 Paul Curran Dublin Thomas Davis Wing Back
1994 Mickey Linden Down Mayobridge Corner Forward
1993 Henry Downey Derry Lavey GAC Centre Forward
1992 Martin McHugh Donegal Kilcar Centre Forward
1991 Colm O'Rourke Meath Skryne One of only two winners to win, despite their county not winning that year's All-Ireland.
1990 Shea Fahy Cork Nemo Rangers 
1989 Teddy McCarthy Cork Glanmire 
1988 Robbie O'Malley Meath St Colmcille's 
1987 Brian Stafford Meath Kilmainhamwood Full Forward
1986 Pat Spillane Kerry Templenoe Wing Forward, second win.
1985 Jack O'Shea Kerry St. Mary's Cahirciveen Midfield, fourth win.
1984 Jack O'Shea Kerry St. Mary's Cahirciveen Midfield, third win.
1983 Tommy Drumm Dublin   
1982 Martin Furlong Offaly  Goalkeeper
1981 Jack O'Shea Kerry St. Mary's Cahirciveen Midfield, second win.
1980 Jack O'Shea Kerry St. Mary's Cahirciveen Midfield
1979 Mikey Sheehy Kerry Austin Stacks Corner Forward
1978 Pat Spillane Kerry Templenoe Wing Forward
1977 Jimmy Keaveney Dublin St Vincents Full Forward, second win.
1976 Jimmy Keaveney Dublin St Vincents Full Forward
1975 John O'Keeffe Kerry Austin Stacks Full Back
1974 Kevin Heffernan Dublin St Vincents The only person to be awarded this award while not a player but a manager.
1973 Billy Morgan Cork Nemo Rangers Goalkeeper
1972 Willie Bryan Offaly   
1971 Eugene Mulligan Offaly Rhode 
1970 Tom Prendergast Kerry Keel 
1969 Mick O'Dwyer Kerry Waterville Wing Forward
1968 Seán O'Neill Down Newry Mitchel's 
1967 Bertie Cunningham Meath Ballivor 
1966 Mattie McDonagh Galway Ballygar 
1965 Martin Newall Galway  ?? 
1964 Noel Tierney Galway  ?? 
1963 Lar Foley Dublin St Vincents 
1962 Mick O'Connell Kerry Young Islanders Midfield
1961 James McCartan (Sr.) Down  ?? Second win.
1960 James McCartan (Sr.) Down  ?? 
1959 Seán Murphy Kerry Camp 
1958 Jim McKeever Derry Ballymaguigan Inaugural winner. One of only two winners to win, despite their county not winning that year's

Did Stevie McDonnell not win it in 2003?

[tyroneboi]

And I thought Peter Canavan got it in 1995?

[heffo]

And I thought Peter Canavan got it in 1995?

Paul Curran was the Texaco footballer of the year (original competition) - Canavan won footballer of the year - as Stevie McDonnell in 2003 - it's only around since the mid 90's..

[Olly]

Really, if the GAA are giving out awards for GAA in the year, then the club championship should be included. Kevin McGourty should be considered. He won ST Galls's the All-Ireland and it was a remarkable feet. He then came on against Tyrone and did more harm to Tyrone on his own than Down did in their game against Tyrone. He came on and showed Sean Kavanagh what a footballer is and Sean was never the same again for the rest of the year, as if he was sufering from nightmares.

Kevin McGourty should be recognised not only for an All-Star but possibly POTY. Should he be penalied because his team were not good and he went to America?

[Rav67]

And I thought Peter Canavan got it in 1995?

Paul Curran was the Texaco footballer of the year (original competition) - Canavan won footballer of the year - as Stevie McDonnell in 2003 - it's only around since the mid 90's..

Yeah there were other differences in the awards - Meehan got the All Star footballer of the year in 2001, Fallon in 1998 and Giles 1996.  I think the All Star award has generally went to the more deserving player- Canavan definitely deserved it in 1995 but McDonnell was head and shoulders above him in 2003.

[Jinxy]

Really, if the GAA are giving out awards for GAA in the year, then the club championship should be included. Kevin McGourty should be considered. He won ST Galls's the All-Ireland and it was a remarkable feet. He then came on against Tyrone and did more harm to Tyrone on his own than Down did in their game against Tyrone. He came on and showed Sean Kavanagh what a footballer is and Sean was never the same again for the rest of the year, as if he was sufering from nightmares.

Kevin McGourty should be recognised not only for an All-Star but possibly POTY. Should he be penalied because his team were not good and he went to America?

These are all good points.

[SambaSaffron]

Really, if the GAA are giving out awards for GAA in the year, then the club championship should be included. Kevin McGourty should be considered. He won ST Galls's the All-Ireland and it was a remarkable feet. He then came on against Tyrone and did more harm to Tyrone on his own than Down did in their game against Tyrone. He came on and showed Sean Kavanagh what a footballer is and Sean was never the same again for the rest of the year, as if he was sufering from nightmares.

Kevin McGourty should be recognised not only for an All-Star but possibly POTY. Should he be penalied because his team were not good and he went to America?

Good points Kevin 

[Olly]

Thanks lads, it's good to get a bit of respect and tolerance on here for once. I would be tempted to start a McGourty for All-Star campaign but it would be hijacked probably by angry heads. Is there any way of writing to someone about this?

I've already emailed Frank Mitchell and Ray Silke about this just in case they're in the inner circle.

[INDIANA]

And us.
But hey, he's only human.

So who actually did he play well against? remember that he shit in the nest last 15 agin Cork as well.

No he didn't.
He destroyed several different markers in the Armagh, Tyrone & Cork games.
It's laughable that anyone would even suggest Clarke deserves POTY ahead of him.

I suggest you watch the last 15 mins of that game again. Two horrible wides and two schoolboy wrong options cost Dublin the game. For the record I think Clarke needs a big game in the final to swing it as he didn't exactly cover himself in glory in the last few minutes against Kildare either but to give player of the year to someone who not only didn't make the final but actually cost his team their place there is 'laughable'.

Can I have some of the drugs please?
The single best footballer in Ireland at present is Bernard Brogan.


The next time you score 1-7 from play in an All-Ireland Semi Final come back and talk to us. Until then stop making an eejit of yourself nit-picking. I saw Matt Connor score 2-9 in 1981 against kerry. The single best display i've ever seen. They lost by 4 points. Matt kicked 3 wides. I suppose
Matt should take the blame for that defeat as well. Mystery solved.

Dublin didn't win the All-Ireland this year becasue Bernard didn't play well enough. Its been a month since the game and I hadn't figured out why we lost. Thanks for that. We now have our scapegoat. I expect the Herald will do the rest.