Dublin Hurling.

[Zulu]

Waht about Clare? Under Loughnane their primary advantage was they were fitter than their opponents. that's not to say they didn't have some great players but physical fitness was certainly a major weapon in their armoury.

[bottlethrower7]

From what I saw on tv I thought Wexford looked the better hurlers but Dublins athleticism pulled them through.

Anyone think kicked goals should be banned ?

I'd agree with this to an extent. It works when the pitch is tight. But Dublin also had a self-belief about them that made them stay going until the end. In the last 10-12 mins, Wexford faded out.

[bottlethrower7]

Waht about Clare? Under Loughnane their primary advantage was they were fitter than their opponents. that's not to say they didn't have some great players but physical fitness was certainly a major weapon in their armoury.

That was a transitional time for hurling. Teams were starting to go from traditional preparation methods (2 laps warmup, drills, a match, go home), to intense physical fitness.

Clare showed how not to do it. Sure they got their couple of all-Irelands, but the wear and tear on that panel was more evident than within any other team I ever saw. Those lads were pretty much all burnt out before their time.

[the colonel]

Waht about Clare? Under Loughnane their primary advantage was they were fitter than their opponents. that's not to say they didn't have some great players but physical fitness was certainly a major weapon in their armoury.

That was a transitional time for hurling. Teams were starting to go from traditional preparation methods (2 laps warmup, drills, a match, go home), to intense physical fitness.

Clare showed how not to do it. Sure they got their couple of all-Irelands, but the wear and tear on that panel was more evident than within any other team I ever saw. Those lads were pretty much all burnt out before their time.

Clare were fit yes, but look at the hurlers they had, Jamesie, the Lohans, McMahon, Baker, Sparrow etc. With all their physical training it brought a great degree of mental toughness as well, which was probably what Clare were lacking upto 95.

[fearglasmor]

I dont have any agenda against Dublin or anything but is it normal that one team gets a home match in a provincial final.
I think Offaly had to go to Parnell Park a couple of years ago also.

Maybe theres a toss for it, i dont know.

[Croí na hÉireann]

I dont have any agenda against Dublin or anything but is it normal that one team gets a home match in a provincial final.
I think Offaly had to go to Parnell Park a couple of years ago also.

Maybe theres a toss for it, i dont know.

It was the same for the football, luck of the draw

[imtommygunn]

I mean to post on this today.

I thought Dublin better athletes and Wexford better hurlers.

Peter Kelly best player on the pitch though. Always had composure and could always find space when he got the ball.

Is no. 11 on dublin senior team? (Rushe his name is I think?) I was disappointed in him - his decision making quite poor on the ball.

Disappointed not to see O'Carroll player. I probably prefer football to hurling in all honesty but I don't think Gilroy should have put him in that position and 2 fingers should have been put up to him...

[Canalman]

I dont have any agenda against Dublin or anything but is it normal that one team gets a home match in a provincial final.
I think Offaly had to go to Parnell Park a couple of years ago also.

Maybe theres a toss for it, i dont know.

In fairness we went away in semis to Nowlan Park to beat the Cats. Final was predrawn as a home venue for that side of the draw.
Some years we had to play KK in Nowlan Park in the U21 final (which we lost) so I am not buying Wx's grievance here.
Btw am a great fan of Wexford hurling........ my 2nd team for years.

[INDIANA]

Dublin were pretty awful in this game. Wexford should really have gotten more from the game. They died a bit when Dublin got their first goal, and had only really stayed in the game to that point via frees.

Still, it says a lot that they can perform so poorly yet still win. And a win is a win is a win.

Exactly. Didn;'t perform but won. Christ think of all the heroic epic of failures we've had in recent years and lost. I'll take this in spades.

[Canalman]

Well done Antrim. Bitter bitter blow for us.

[ardmhachaabu]

Well done Antrim. Bitter bitter blow for us.

Cracker finish to it from a neutral's point of view, well I do have a soft spot for Antrim and cheered them on a bit

[Bud Wiser]

Well done Antrim. Bitter bitter blow for us.

Cracker finish to it from a neutral's point of view, well I do have a soft spot for Antrim and cheered them on a bit

And therein lies the problem for Dublin, cheering them on. I am sure nobody will disagree that if the support on the Hill that is given to the footballers was given to the hurlers it would be worth at least two or three points. The problem Daly has now is keeping the momentum with the lads because they are a good bunch.  Heffo knows about FODH (friends of dublin hurling) but a bigger effort throughout all clubs must be made to give the lads a bit of a lift.  I can't understand Dublin supporters who will pay into Croke Park for a football game and not watch and support their hurling team at all.  Then, I suppose I can't understand why the football game was not on before the hurling or why a cracking Munster Final Replay was played on a Saturday.

[INDIANA]

Very poor day for the Dublin hurlers yesterday. Congrats to Antrim though. they deserve their day in the sun. they've been simialr to ourselves and its their day in the sun. But a complete shocker from Dublin. An awful first half performance. How we were level at HT was beyond me.
Then to go 6 up \and let it slip was a disaster. Daly had  a poor day on the line. Took off all the 21's because he thought the game was won. Very poor management I'm afraid. He has to take a large share of the blame for yesterday.

However the lack of leadership on this team is unreal. Against a team that don't have the benefit of div 1 hurling antrim looked sharper and hungrier. Why i don't know. Outside Carton, Boland and Lambert and to an extent O Dwyer little to shout about.

Gutted beyond belief today. Really disappointed in the players. They'd want to realise exactly where they stand in the pecking order and put the delusions of grandeur aside. Why they would ever think we would beat a Dinny Cahill trained team easily considering we ahve always struggled against them was beyond me.

However had we kept Rushe, Kelly and Co on the pitch I think we'd have won by 2/3 points. And Daly must acknowledge that for me.

[imtommygunn]

If you were looking at it from a blame perspective Indiana I would look no further than your 2 corner forwards. Those 2 boys must have thought they were back playing u12 again yesterday and could walk the ball into the net at their leisure rather than taking their points. Daly can't answer for that.

Great win for antrim. Over the moon with it. The character and belief shown when 6 points down to get right back in it and then to win it was admirible.

Did Kelly come off - I thought he was on McManus at the end? Rushe wasn't that effective so I'd have thought subbing him was alright...

[bottlethrower7]

However the lack of leadership on this team is unreal.

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Its always the danger when adopting a 'youth' policy. And that type of policy has never worked as far as I can tell. Maybe it was forced on Dublin somewhat, but thrusting lads of 23/24 into a position where they're now the senior players on the team is never going to bode well in an overall sense.