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Re: Bloody Sunday killings to be ruled unlawful
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2010, 04:29:04 PM »
it means sfa unless they prosecute the murderers

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Re: Bloody Sunday killings to be ruled unlawful
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2010, 04:36:43 PM »
it means sfa unless they prosecute the murderers

Won't happen.

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2010, 08:59:28 PM »
Tories showing their true colours early on.


Saville Inquiry an 'expensive disaster'
Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:04
British Justice Secretary Kenneth Clarke has said the inquiry into the Bloody Sunday killings has been a 'disaster in terms of time and expense'.

The Saville Report, which has cost more than 190m, will be published on Tuesday, more than 12 years after the inquiry was opened.

Mr Clarke said the inquiry had got 'ludicrously out of hand' and he was 'anxiously considering' how other inquiries should be held in the future.

AdvertisementThe inquiry looked into the events on 30 January 1970 when British soldiers opened fire on a civil rights march, killing 13 people.
Why mention the Tories in the headline? Clarke is only saying what they are all thinking? An absolute waste of money that (as NAG said) could have been put to better use than lining the pockets of barristers and solicitors with no vested interest in getting this over and done with. Everyone clamoured for this inquiry, blow the cost, even though they knew it would be a whitewash. What did they expect? He who pays the piper...

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Re: Bloody Sunday killings to be ruled unlawful
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2010, 09:12:03 PM »
I presume it's telling the truth and blaming the Brits seeing as they are doing so much moaning about the cost.
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Re: Bloody Sunday killings to be ruled unlawful
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2010, 09:15:38 PM »
The b*****ds that done the shooting on Bloody Sunday are very easily identified - if the British wanted to do so. Last week we had endless ceremonies for Dunkirk and they had no bother finding matching boats and veterans who remembered exactly where they were on the 4th June 1940, but then, knowing where you were to line up to receive gallantry medals was never a problem with the brits as opposed to lining up to face mass murder charges. Last week also saw a ceremony to put names of dead soldiers killed in Afganistan on a wall of remembrance, which I have no problem with (we should have one in O'connel Street instead of a spire) but why did they not give coverage to the soldiers who on the same week were charged with the murders/execution of an entire innocent Afgan family. The level of debate on RTE or the failure of the government to even make a statement about the current report while we have people marching on the Israeli Embassy instead of the British one is two examples of why this report is too little and far too late.

There should be a national rememberance day for the 40th Anniversary of Bloody Sunday and the government should announce that intention and demand that those involved in the Bogside massacre of 27 people including children are brought to justice before that time.
There should be no hierarchy of victims. Thousands of innocent people lost their lives during the troubles. Why single out 13 for a national remembrance day?

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Re: Bloody Sunday killings to be ruled unlawful
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2010, 09:21:35 PM »
Because that 13 were murdered by the armed thug employees of the British State who then villifed them and have never apologised for their murdurous deeds.
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2010, 09:26:40 PM »
The b*****ds that done the shooting on Bloody Sunday are very easily identified - if the British wanted to do so. Last week we had endless ceremonies for Dunkirk and they had no bother finding matching boats and veterans who remembered exactly where they were on the 4th June 1940, but then, knowing where you were to line up to receive gallantry medals was never a problem with the brits as opposed to lining up to face mass murder charges. Last week also saw a ceremony to put names of dead soldiers killed in Afganistan on a wall of remembrance, which I have no problem with (we should have one in O'connel Street instead of a spire) but why did they not give coverage to the soldiers who on the same week were charged with the murders/execution of an entire innocent Afgan family. The level of debate on RTE or the failure of the government to even make a statement about the current report while we have people marching on the Israeli Embassy instead of the British one is two examples of why this report is too little and far too late.

There should be a national rememberance day for the 40th Anniversary of Bloody Sunday and the government should announce that intention and demand that those involved in the Bogside massacre of 27 people including children are brought to justice before that time.
There should be no hierarchy of victims. Thousands of innocent people lost their lives during the troubles. Why single out 13 for a national remembrance day?

You're right, it should be a national remembrance day for all the Irish victims of British terrorism.
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2010, 09:58:58 PM »
Because that 13 were murdered by the armed thug employees of the British State who then villifed them and have never apologised for their murdurous deeds.
So you think there should be a hierarchy of victims? Fine. Who gets to draw up the list - you or Willie Frazer?

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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2010, 09:59:38 PM »
The b*****ds that done the shooting on Bloody Sunday are very easily identified - if the British wanted to do so. Last week we had endless ceremonies for Dunkirk and they had no bother finding matching boats and veterans who remembered exactly where they were on the 4th June 1940, but then, knowing where you were to line up to receive gallantry medals was never a problem with the brits as opposed to lining up to face mass murder charges. Last week also saw a ceremony to put names of dead soldiers killed in Afganistan on a wall of remembrance, which I have no problem with (we should have one in O'connel Street instead of a spire) but why did they not give coverage to the soldiers who on the same week were charged with the murders/execution of an entire innocent Afgan family. The level of debate on RTE or the failure of the government to even make a statement about the current report while we have people marching on the Israeli Embassy instead of the British one is two examples of why this report is too little and far too late.

There should be a national rememberance day for the 40th Anniversary of Bloody Sunday and the government should announce that intention and demand that those involved in the Bogside massacre of 27 people including children are brought to justice before that time.
There should be no hierarchy of victims. Thousands of innocent people lost their lives during the troubles. Why single out 13 for a national remembrance day?

You're right, it should be a national remembrance day for all the Irish victims of British terrorism.
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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2010, 10:03:44 PM »
thank God
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Re: Bloody Sunday killings to be ruled unlawful
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2010, 10:44:02 PM »
Will there be any reaction / trouble on the streets of Derry if this does not exonerate the dead?

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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2010, 12:37:49 PM »
The b*****ds that done the shooting on Bloody Sunday are very easily identified - if the British wanted to do so. Last week we had endless ceremonies for Dunkirk and they had no bother finding matching boats and veterans who remembered exactly where they were on the 4th June 1940, but then, knowing where you were to line up to receive gallantry medals was never a problem with the brits as opposed to lining up to face mass murder charges. Last week also saw a ceremony to put names of dead soldiers killed in Afganistan on a wall of remembrance, which I have no problem with (we should have one in O'connel Street instead of a spire) but why did they not give coverage to the soldiers who on the same week were charged with the murders/execution of an entire innocent Afgan family. The level of debate on RTE or the failure of the government to even make a statement about the current report while we have people marching on the Israeli Embassy instead of the British one is two examples of why this report is too little and far too late.

There should be a national rememberance day for the 40th Anniversary of Bloody Sunday and the government should announce that intention and demand that those involved in the Bogside massacre of 27 people including children are brought to justice before that time.
There should be no hierarchy of victims. Thousands of innocent people lost their lives during the troubles. Why single out 13 for a national remembrance day?

2012 will be the 40th Anniversary of Bloody Sunday and what I meant was that this day should be remembered, and not alone that, it should be even more remembered in the South,  to remind our children and their children what a third coming of Brit Paratroopers to this Island could bring if they are ever let back in the future.  When the first Black and Tans arrived they took out random vengance attacks, killed and slaughtered innocents and burnt towns when they had a man down following an IRA attack. They shot, plundered and murdered and raped at will because they had no discipline and were out of control of the British Government.  What happened in 1972 was exactly the same and if you want to forget about it that is fine.  I can see no problem including "thousands of innocent people who lost their lives" in that remembrance day as well - along with the teenagers that were shot dead and those who were shot in the back on Bloody Sunday.  Not alone would I like to see a Remembrance Day in 2012 but I would indeed prefer if Maggie Thatcher was made come and watch it.

Since the Iraq war there have been 164 brit soldiers charged with offences ranging from murder down along the line. They are not tried in a criminal court but by court martial - ie, by themselves and out of that 164 not one of them has received a sentence. Why?  Because what they do is they bring up about six charges to cover the one, like say, not taking due care, disobeying orders, discharging a firearm dangerously etc, etc, and what has happened on each occasion is that on day one of the court martial the lesser charge is dealt with, day two the same craic and by the time ithe day comes to get to the serious end of the stick the serious charge is dismissed because all the others have been glanced over and it doesn't look as bad.  What happened the seven 'soldiers' (their term) that were charged with murder in Iraq in 2003?   They were let away with it, thats what happened. One of them, Larkin had the stupidity to plead guilty but his guilty plea was over ruled when the Brits produced a witness at the court martial to say he (the witness)  now was not sure if Larkin was the one involved.    If we don't remember Bloody Sunday Maggie Thatcher or Lord Goldsmith are not going to remember it for us and it is still my view that we should have a National Remembrance Day so rather than go on about it I agree to disagree.
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Re: Bloody Sunday killings to be ruled unlawful
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2010, 05:50:20 PM »
Well said Bud. Hear hear .
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Re: Bloody Sunday killings to be ruled unlawful
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2010, 05:50:31 PM »
The b*****ds that done the shooting on Bloody Sunday are very easily identified - if the British wanted to do so. Last week we had endless ceremonies for Dunkirk and they had no bother finding matching boats and veterans who remembered exactly where they were on the 4th June 1940, but then, knowing where you were to line up to receive gallantry medals was never a problem with the brits as opposed to lining up to face mass murder charges. Last week also saw a ceremony to put names of dead soldiers killed in Afganistan on a wall of remembrance, which I have no problem with (we should have one in O'connel Street instead of a spire) but why did they not give coverage to the soldiers who on the same week were charged with the murders/execution of an entire innocent Afgan family. The level of debate on RTE or the failure of the government to even make a statement about the current report while we have people marching on the Israeli Embassy instead of the British one is two examples of why this report is too little and far too late.

There should be a national rememberance day for the 40th Anniversary of Bloody Sunday and the government should announce that intention and demand that those involved in the Bogside massacre of 27 people including children are brought to justice before that time.
There should be no hierarchy of victims. Thousands of innocent people lost their lives during the troubles. Why single out 13 for a national remembrance day?

You're right, it should be a national remembrance day for all the Irish victims of British terrorism.

But then we would need one for all the Irish victims of Irish terrorism?