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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #255 on: February 10, 2019, 07:32:53 AM »
MLA Claire Hanna seems to have deleted all SDLP mentions from social media, where next for what seems like a very competent politician?

Alliance Party.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #256 on: February 10, 2019, 08:49:14 AM »
MLA Claire Hanna seems to have deleted all SDLP mentions from social media, where next for what seems like a very competent politician?

Alliance Party.

Alliance party would be extremely risky. They already have ex uup Bradshaw as an mla they wont get enough votes for 2 even with Hanna bringing some personal vote with her. Likewise an independent is risky for the same reasons. All academic since stormont isnt going to be up and running again anytime soon. I think Hanna made the mistake of being so vocal. Fair play to her for sticking to her principles but she has kind of cornered herself  she could have just said she wasnt happy and left it at that. It could be yrs if ever before sdlp candidates have to stand under FF banner.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #257 on: February 10, 2019, 10:09:03 AM »
Continuity SDLP.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #258 on: February 10, 2019, 10:49:07 AM »
MLA Claire Hanna seems to have deleted all SDLP mentions from social media, where next for what seems like a very competent politician?

Alliance Party.

She'll never join Alliance. She's a Social Democrat.

Be interesting to see how this plays out for the SDLP. Will the presence of prominent FF politicians on the campaign trail be enough to give them the polling boost they so badly need.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #259 on: February 10, 2019, 10:59:55 AM »
MLA Claire Hanna seems to have deleted all SDLP mentions from social media, where next for what seems like a very competent politician?

Alliance Party.

Alliance party would be extremely risky. They already have ex uup Bradshaw as an mla they wont get enough votes for 2 even with Hanna bringing some personal vote with her. Likewise an independent is risky for the same reasons. All academic since stormont isnt going to be up and running again anytime soon. I think Hanna made the mistake of being so vocal. Fair play to her for sticking to her principles but she has kind of cornered herself  she could have just said she wasnt happy and left it at that. It could be yrs if ever before sdlp candidates have to stand under FF banner.

They may not be standing under a FF banner but as far as the voters are concerned it is now FF.

With PR voting there is always room for an independent, just look at the Dail. Hanna could easily form another party if she shows true left wing, social democratic credentials with a nationalist standpoint, what the SDLP should have become.  It might survive mostly in the east while Tobin makes in-road into the rural areas of the west. PR gives breathing space to multiple parties but Stormont denies them the power found in normal parliamentary systems.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #260 on: February 10, 2019, 11:18:59 AM »
MLA Claire Hanna seems to have deleted all SDLP mentions from social media, where next for what seems like a very competent politician?

Alliance Party.

Alliance party would be extremely risky. They already have ex uup Bradshaw as an mla they wont get enough votes for 2 even with Hanna bringing some personal vote with her. Likewise an independent is risky for the same reasons. All academic since stormont isnt going to be up and running again anytime soon. I think Hanna made the mistake of being so vocal. Fair play to her for sticking to her principles but she has kind of cornered herself  she could have just said she wasnt happy and left it at that. It could be yrs if ever before sdlp candidates have to stand under FF banner.

They may not be standing under a FF banner but as far as the voters are concerned it is now FF.

With PR voting there is always room for an independent, just look at the Dail. Hanna could easily form another party if she shows true left wing, social democratic credentials with a nationalist standpoint, what the SDLP should have become.  It might survive mostly in the east while Tobin makes in-road into the rural areas of the west. PR gives breathing space to multiple parties but Stormont denies them the power found in normal parliamentary systems.

Tobin's party is a single issue party. Like most other single issue parties I can't see him making any in roads at all.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #261 on: February 10, 2019, 11:34:24 AM »
Hanna should sit tight for a few years, she would be the ideal candidate for South Belfast as an independent get that sc**bag Pengelly out. If the Shinners do the right thing and stand aside for her.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #262 on: February 10, 2019, 11:47:57 AM »
Hanna should sit tight for a few years, she would be the ideal candidate for South Belfast as an independent get that sc**bag Pengelly out. If the Shinners do the right thing and stand aside for her.

Pengelly is an excellent constituency MP, running around trying to make sure that the bus stops don't have bad words on them like "Short Strand".

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #263 on: February 10, 2019, 11:53:10 AM »
Ah good old Emma - uvf flags are not sectarian or intimidating to catholics, if you need new windows after the bonfires claim on your home insurance, we must change the name of this bus stop as it makes us sound like taigues - pengelly.

A wonderful mp she is too ;D

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #264 on: February 10, 2019, 12:30:09 PM »
The sad thing is that the so-called "progressive" parties in South Belfast can't, or won't, unite around an agreed candidate to unseat her. Mind you, nor do I think that Hanna is the answer either inside, or outside, the SDLP. SF will probably never give anyone else a free run anyway, so it looks like we're stuck with a complete bigot.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #265 on: February 10, 2019, 12:53:30 PM »
The sad thing is that the so-called "progressive" parties in South Belfast can't, or won't, unite around an agreed candidate to unseat her. Mind you, nor do I think that Hanna is the answer either inside, or outside, the SDLP. SF will probably never give anyone else a free run anyway, so it looks like we're stuck with a complete bigot.

Yeah the SF “free run” only seems to work one way with them, they would rather have a bigot like Pengelly than SDLP

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #266 on: February 10, 2019, 02:02:25 PM »
Same old story.

Chat about reviving democratic institutions out of one side of our mouths and then playing electoral gains to keep themmuns out of South Belfast from the other. Absolute nonsense.
"Never mind your why. Why ain't in your repetoire no more n***a"

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #267 on: February 10, 2019, 02:08:02 PM »
Same old story.

Chat about reviving democratic institutions out of one side of our mouths and then playing electoral gains to keep themmuns out of South Belfast from the other. Absolute nonsense.


The only nonsense is the constituency with the highest remain vote in NI is represented by a cnut.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #268 on: February 10, 2019, 02:13:27 PM »
Same old story.

Chat about reviving democratic institutions out of one side of our mouths and then playing electoral gains to keep themmuns out of South Belfast from the other. Absolute nonsense.


The only nonsense is the constituency with the highest remain vote in NI is represented by a cnut.

The constituency is represented by the democratic winner on the basis of the electoral system in place. Whether she's a **** or not (she clearly is) is moot.

It's the 21st century. People talk of moving on and a brighter future and all that but are hypocritically blinded when it comes to the idea that electoral pacts are by definition anti democratic.
"Never mind your why. Why ain't in your repetoire no more n***a"

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #269 on: February 10, 2019, 07:08:20 PM »
Next thing you'll be telling us is that the "democratic" in Democratic Unionist Party is a fair reflection of the views of that particular band of upstanding citizens....oh , apart from corruption, drink driving convictions among Councillors, sexual assault convictions, dodgy planning applications, package holidays galore, Ulster Resistance, RHI etc etc. Fit representatives of the people indeed.