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« Reply #360 on: September 14, 2019, 12:17:26 AM »
Margaret Ritchie to enter the lords. Jesus wept, I know the SDLP are sore at having no MP's and I know that she has technically resigned. But HTF on principle can any Irish Nationalist join the lords?

Hardly a surprise;




Margaret still taking the soup.

Typical stoop. Brits wave a wee bauble or bit of ermine their way and they're bowing and scraping. A failed politician who claims she will represent nationakists in Lords. She can fcuk right off

And when Martin dined with Mrs Windsor and the Chief off Staff of the Parachute regiment your thoughts were...........?

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« Reply #361 on: September 14, 2019, 05:23:49 AM »
Margaret Ritchie to enter the lords. Jesus wept, I know the SDLP are sore at having no MP's and I know that she has technically resigned. But HTF on principle can any Irish Nationalist join the lords?

Hardly a surprise;




Margaret still taking the soup.

Typical stoop. Brits wave a wee bauble or bit of ermine their way and they're bowing and scraping. A failed politician who claims she will represent nationakists in Lords. She can fcuk right off

And when Martin dined with Mrs Windsor and the Chief off Staff of the Parachute regiment your thoughts were...........?

Keep your enemies close?

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« Reply #362 on: September 14, 2019, 07:15:14 AM »
Margaret Ritchie to enter the lords. Jesus wept, I know the SDLP are sore at having no MP's and I know that she has technically resigned. But HTF on principle can any Irish Nationalist join the lords?

Hardly a surprise;




Margaret still taking the soup.

Typical stoop. Brits wave a wee bauble or bit of ermine their way and they're bowing and scraping. A failed politician who claims she will represent nationakists in Lords. She can fcuk right off


Hardly typical.  Second in nearly 50 years to go to the HoL.  I'd presume many more were offered.

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« Reply #363 on: September 14, 2019, 09:06:02 AM »
suddenly shaking the queen’s hand is actually what the war was about achieving.
Shaking someone's hand in a spirit of reconciliation and "moving on" is a bit different than swearing allegiance.
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« Reply #364 on: September 14, 2019, 09:14:54 AM »
Margaret Ritchie to enter the lords. Jesus wept, I know the SDLP are sore at having no MP's and I know that she has technically resigned. But HTF on principle can any Irish Nationalist join the lords?

Hardly a surprise;




Margaret still taking the soup.

Typical stoop. Brits wave a wee bauble or bit of ermine their way and they're bowing and scraping. A failed politician who claims she will represent nationakists in Lords. She can fcuk right off


Hardly typical.  Second in nearly 50 years to go to the HoL.  I'd presume many more were offered.

There were indeed sdlp members offered over the years, but they choose to abstain from this house of parliament and not represent Irish nationalism.

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« Reply #365 on: September 14, 2019, 01:47:11 PM »
Margaret Ritchie to enter the lords. Jesus wept, I know the SDLP are sore at having no MP's and I know that she has technically resigned. But HTF on principle can any Irish Nationalist join the lords?

Hardly a surprise;




Margaret still taking the soup.

Typical stoop. Brits wave a wee bauble or bit of ermine their way and they're bowing and scraping. A failed politician who claims she will represent nationakists in Lords. She can fcuk right off

And when Martin dined with Mrs Windsor and the Chief off Staff of the Parachute regiment your thoughts were...........?

Keep your enemies close?


Ah Jaysus. I‘ve  heard some good excuses in my day but that one takes the biccie

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« Reply #366 on: September 15, 2019, 09:53:09 AM »
There is a massive difference between Martin McGuinness going toWIndsor Castle/Meeting the Queen and Margaret Ritchie going to the Lords.
Martin McGuinness had absolutely nothing whatsoever to gain personally from doing what he did. In fact, he had a lot to lose within his own constituency of The Creggan and the Bogside. He did it because he took his role as DFM very seriously and genuinely wanted to undertake confidence building measures to sustain the peace process. This, like many other risks he took were not reciprocated by the DUP and so the Assembly fell.

Margaret Ritchie going to the Lords - Money, red leather and the nice feel of ermine. Same as Austin Currie who went to FG, Mark Durkan who did the same and Gerry Fitt.

 I cannot think of one cause, d’écrire or need within Ireland that could be advanced by her heading to the House of Lords. It is an even more ridiculous place than the House of Commons.   

Durkan adored the pomp and ceremony of Westminster. He fully embraced it. Got involved in the minutiae of legislation and was apparently ‘a great parliamentarian’.  He is an exceptionally able man, granted.






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« Reply #367 on: September 17, 2019, 10:55:35 AM »
To me any right thinking Irish Nationalist could not on principle take an oath to s foreign state or head of state. I know Margaret, not well but still. I can not fathom why she has sold out. I support SF and their abstention policy.
Not that I disagree with you but this is a Custer’s last stand. For 30 years, Sinn Féin have been masters in making even the most unpalatable acts political successes for “Irish Nationalists”. They get a kick back calling them sell outs and then their PR operation kicks in and suddenly shaking the queen’s hand is actually what the war was about achieving.
I've no problem with SF putting out the hand of friendship to the Royals, friends and neighbours hold them dear. I don't believe as a nationalist on principle you can take an oath to a foreign state/monarch. So I do support the abstention. There is also much that SF do that I don't agree with, the SDLP though provide no alternative.

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« Reply #368 on: September 17, 2019, 01:42:44 PM »
Margaret Ritchie going to the Lords - Money, red leather and the nice feel of ermine. Same as Austin Currie who went to FG, Mark Durkan who did the same and Gerry Fitt.

So you are comparing joining an unelected body in Britain with standing for election in a different part of Ireland?
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« Reply #369 on: September 17, 2019, 04:02:38 PM »
To me any right thinking Irish Nationalist could not on principle take an oath to s foreign state or head of state. I know Margaret, not well but still. I can not fathom why she has sold out. I support SF and their abstention policy.
Not that I disagree with you but this is a Custer’s last stand. For 30 years, Sinn Féin have been masters in making even the most unpalatable acts political successes for “Irish Nationalists”. They get a kick back calling them sell outs and then their PR operation kicks in and suddenly shaking the queen’s hand is actually what the war was about achieving.
I've no problem with SF putting out the hand of friendship to the Royals, friends and neighbours hold them dear. I don't believe as a nationalist on principle you can take an oath to a foreign state/monarch. So I do support the abstention. There is also much that SF do that I don't agree with, the SDLP though provide no alternative.

What of Parnell? What of O'Connell?

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« Reply #370 on: September 17, 2019, 04:12:45 PM »
To me any right thinking Irish Nationalist could not on principle take an oath to s foreign state or head of state. I know Margaret, not well but still. I can not fathom why she has sold out. I support SF and their abstention policy.
Not that I disagree with you but this is a Custer’s last stand. For 30 years, Sinn Féin have been masters in making even the most unpalatable acts political successes for “Irish Nationalists”. They get a kick back calling them sell outs and then their PR operation kicks in and suddenly shaking the queen’s hand is actually what the war was about achieving.
I've no problem with SF putting out the hand of friendship to the Royals, friends and neighbours hold them dear. I don't believe as a nationalist on principle you can take an oath to a foreign state/monarch. So I do support the abstention. There is also much that SF do that I don't agree with, the SDLP though provide no alternative.

What of Parnell? What of O'Connell?
Same, but that said I suppose the dynamic then was slightly different in that they didn't necessarily want to leave the empire.

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« Reply #371 on: September 17, 2019, 09:16:23 PM »
Still take the money though, at the end of the day, gonna show principles go the full nine yards. Not we not going to Westminster but please give us the money!!

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« Reply #372 on: September 18, 2019, 09:37:27 AM »
Still take the money though, at the end of the day, gonna show principles go the full nine yards. Not we not going to Westminster but please give us the money!!
And there was a time when SF wouldn't sit in Stormont or Leinster House either, but those principles were jettisoned by them over time.

Anyway the posts by Shinner heads here conform to type, everything their guys do is right, anything the SDLP does is wrong. So predictable.

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« Reply #373 on: September 18, 2019, 09:46:58 AM »
Still take the money though, at the end of the day, gonna show principles go the full nine yards. Not we not going to Westminster but please give us the money!!
And there was a time when SF wouldn't sit in Stormont or Leinster House either, but those principles were jettisoned by them over time.

Anyway the posts by Shinner heads here conform to type, everything their guys do is right, anything the SDLP does is wrong. So predictable.

You haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about.

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« Reply #374 on: September 18, 2019, 10:56:49 AM »
Still take the money though, at the end of the day, gonna show principles go the full nine yards. Not we not going to Westminster but please give us the money!!
And there was a time when SF wouldn't sit in Stormont or Leinster House either, but those principles were jettisoned by them over time.

Stormont and the Dáil don't require you to take an oath of allegiance to a foreign Head of State.
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