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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #315 on: March 05, 2019, 05:54:46 AM »
Strange move and it looks to be the end of the SDLP

I thought durkan a decent skin but for a supposed nationalist to join Fine Gael it doesnt reflect well Imo

Strange that the stoops are falling over themselves to join FF & FG I would always thought that Labour wudda been more natural bedfellows. But on the other hand it was a badly kept secret that SDLPs position on the left was more a hangover from their foundation and not reflective of the present day middle class base.

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« Reply #316 on: March 05, 2019, 08:29:41 AM »
Surely more middle class nationalists support SF than SDLP?

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #317 on: March 05, 2019, 08:45:16 AM »
Surely more middle class nationalists support SF than SDLP?

Probably true of the  midde class nationalists who can be arsed to vote.

Which is the same thing, I suppose.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #318 on: March 05, 2019, 10:04:20 AM »
This is bad news for SDLP. Who knows where they go from here. They should've just bit the bullet and threw all in with FF. At this rate there'll be nothing left for FF to take over.

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« Reply #319 on: March 05, 2019, 10:23:00 AM »
This is bad news for SDLP. Who knows where they go from here. They should've just bit the bullet and threw all in with FF. At this rate there'll be nothing left for FF to take over.
I once would have advocated FF standing in the North and would under Bertie's leadership have voted for them. But Martin's constant anti Nordie SF sniping is a turn off.

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« Reply #320 on: March 05, 2019, 10:44:05 AM »
The SDLP seem to have more issues with SF than any other party.  Daniel McCrossan's life seems to be about slabbering as much as he can about SF.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #321 on: March 05, 2019, 10:54:53 AM »
It's also a 2 fingered salute from Durkan to Colm Eastwood so soon after the official link up with FF. Their perceived sister party was Labour, they formed a recent alliance with FF and now their former leader has thrown in his lot with FG. Hanna and Durkan's defections have meant that it has been a bad few weeks for SDLP. 

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« Reply #322 on: March 05, 2019, 10:59:26 AM »
Councillor Cahill on Lisburn Council is another one seemingly without a clue as to what party she wants to affiliate to.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2019, 11:05:07 AM by playwiththewind1st »

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #323 on: March 05, 2019, 11:04:02 AM »
It's also a 2 fingered salute from Durkan to Colm Eastwood so soon after the official link up with FF. Their perceived sister party was Labour, they formed a recent alliance with FF and now their former leader has thrown in his lot with FG. Hanna and Durkan's defections have meant that it has been a bad few weeks for SDLP.
I heard it described as Eastwood and Mallons link up with FF on the radio, Was Nicola Mallon a prominent supporter of it? I always considered her and Hanna as 2 of their better performers so to see of them going off in differing directions can only weaken them.

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« Reply #324 on: March 05, 2019, 11:24:19 AM »
It's also a 2 fingered salute from Durkan to Colm Eastwood so soon after the official link up with FF. Their perceived sister party was Labour, they formed a recent alliance with FF and now their former leader has thrown in his lot with FG. Hanna and Durkan's defections have meant that it has been a bad few weeks for SDLP.
I heard it described as Eastwood and Mallons link up with FF on the radio, Was Nicola Mallon a prominent supporter of it? I always considered her and Hanna as 2 of their better performers so to see of them going off in differing directions can only weaken them.

Mallon has the best record of any MLA of working on social issues and achieving something for mostly her N.Belfast constituents but for all in relation to the welfare reforms handed by SF to the Tories to implement. Therefore, it was a shock that she would be alongside Eastwood in moving to FF.

SDLP has always had its FF, FG and Labour factions.  By forcing through the FF alliance, Eastwood has opened up these fissures in the party and is prepared to allow them to grow in return for FF money to keep his party afloat.  The loss of the 3 WM seats meant that income was severely reduced and would mean that a party machine without a grass roots base of volunteers could no longer compete with the other NI parties. Durkan's move will allow the merger/takeover to happen faster than planned.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #325 on: March 05, 2019, 11:37:58 AM »
It's also a 2 fingered salute from Durkan to Colm Eastwood so soon after the official link up with FF. Their perceived sister party was Labour, they formed a recent alliance with FF and now their former leader has thrown in his lot with FG. Hanna and Durkan's defections have meant that it has been a bad few weeks for SDLP.
I heard it described as Eastwood and Mallons link up with FF on the radio, Was Nicola Mallon a prominent supporter of it? I always considered her and Hanna as 2 of their better performers so to see of them going off in differing directions can only weaken them.

Mallon has the best record of any MLA of working on social issues and achieving something for mostly her N.Belfast constituents but for all in relation to the welfare reforms handed by SF to the Tories to implement. Therefore, it was a shock that she would be alongside Eastwood in moving to FF.

SDLP has always had its FF, FG and Labour factions.  By forcing through the FF alliance, Eastwood has opened up these fissures in the party and is prepared to allow them to grow in return for FF money to keep his party afloat.  The loss of the 3 WM seats meant that income was severely reduced and would mean that a party machine without a grass roots base of volunteers could no longer compete with the other NI parties. Durkan's move will allow the merger/takeover to happen faster than planned.

To my knowledge that is inaccurate. The party has plenty of money. This linkup was about political profile.
Nicola Mallon was central to this link up as deputy leader.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #326 on: March 05, 2019, 12:07:21 PM »
The SDLP seem to have more issues with SF than any other party.  Daniel McCrossan's life seems to be about slabbering as much as he can about SF.

He's a joke. He must have got a dig from a shinner on the football pitch growing up. It's the only explanation for the chip on his shoulder.

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« Reply #327 on: March 05, 2019, 02:09:46 PM »
To my knowledge that is inaccurate. The party has plenty of money. This linkup was about political profile.
Nicola Mallon was central to this link up as deputy leader.

Nonsense, SDLP is on its knees when it comes to money.  Donations are so far behind all other parties and they are dependent on expenses from Stormont which are much reduced:

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/political-parties-campaigning-and-donations/donations-and-loans-to-political-parties/quarterly-donations-and-loans

To run a modern election, money is everything.  FF brings that resource.

Just because you are deputy leader does not mean you cannot think for yourself or stay true to your principles.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #328 on: March 05, 2019, 02:12:36 PM »
Their expenses are nearly the same (with one exception), it's their salaries that have been cut.

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Re: The SDLP
« Reply #329 on: March 05, 2019, 03:03:26 PM »
To my knowledge that is inaccurate. The party has plenty of money. This linkup was about political profile.
Nicola Mallon was central to this link up as deputy leader.

Nonsense, SDLP is on its knees when it comes to money.  Donations are so far behind all other parties and they are dependent on expenses from Stormont which are much reduced:

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/political-parties-campaigning-and-donations/donations-and-loans-to-political-parties/quarterly-donations-and-loans

To run a modern election, money is everything.  FF brings that resource.

Just because you are deputy leader does not mean you cannot think for yourself or stay true to your principles.

OK you seem to know it all.  ;)