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« Reply #3120 on: November 12, 2019, 01:53:41 PM »
It looks like they must be close you would think given all the inches in the papers. Surely just a matter of time. I'd be surprised if no-one's lifted before the weekend. Seems like they have all the evidence required going by the papers.

Indeed, it's all pointing in one direction. Getting the evidence from England might take a bit of time but I half expect in the meantime that certain parties might lift the phone and confess to the Gardai in the hope of avoiding jail for what they have done.  Maybe I'm expecting too much.

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« Reply #3121 on: November 12, 2019, 01:57:03 PM »
It looks like they must be close you would think given all the inches in the papers. Surely just a matter of time. I'd be surprised if no-one's lifted before the weekend. Seems like they have all the evidence required going by the papers.

Indeed, it's all pointing in one direction. Getting the evidence from England might take a bit of time but I half expect in the meantime that certain parties might lift the phone and confess to the Gardai in the hope of avoiding jail for what they have done.  Maybe I'm expecting too much.

In this legal world of technicalities, loopholes and the like? You are expecting way too much.

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« Reply #3122 on: November 12, 2019, 02:02:48 PM »
It looks like they must be close you would think given all the inches in the papers. Surely just a matter of time. I'd be surprised if no-one's lifted before the weekend. Seems like they have all the evidence required going by the papers.

Indeed, it's all pointing in one direction. Getting the evidence from England might take a bit of time but I half expect in the meantime that certain parties might lift the phone and confess to the Gardai in the hope of avoiding jail for what they have done.  Maybe I'm expecting too much.

That's if the papers are right, they seem to all be pointing in the one direction. Certainly from what I'm hearing the person they are pointing the finger at is also keen to see it progress as his name won't be cleared (If he's not involved) until they do. So I'm sure we'll hear soon one way or the other.

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« Reply #3123 on: November 12, 2019, 02:16:19 PM »
The irish media are some spoofers. Lining up to be on TV to tell us all that they knew about "dublin jimmy" yet Google his now famous name and you'll barely find a mention of him (prior to this last few weeks). Likewise you'll find hardly anything about what's been going on in ballyconnel for years. Yet today these spoofers know everything and even question what gardai were doing.

2004
http://archive.commercialmotor.com/article/21th-october-2004/9/bbc-names-mr-big

2009
https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/13849880.waste-offenders-lose-pound300000-assets/

2010
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ira-bombing-suspect-dumped-illegal-waste-in-northern-ireland-zs2z5bjgw8j

2011
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-14493191

2013
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/car-stealing-gangs-running-97-2120184


2017
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/businessman-wants-garda-boss-osullivan-jailed-in-row-over-truck-35860812.html
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« Reply #3124 on: November 12, 2019, 02:37:37 PM »
Speak of an Ass and he is sure to Pass

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-jimmy-once-threatened-to-shoot-paymaster-who-hired-him-to-carry-out-attacks-on-former-quinn-companies-38683633.html

"... the financier..."  :o

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/sean-quinn-in-terrifying-good-friday-death-threat-30409388.html

Putting those 2 articles back to back and you don't have to be Einstein to know who they are pointing at. At this stage if SQ is not involved he would be best to present himself to the authorities for questioning to clear his name because unfortunately for him he is already guilty in many peoples eyes by association.

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« Reply #3125 on: November 12, 2019, 03:02:22 PM »
Speak of an Ass and he is sure to Pass

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-jimmy-once-threatened-to-shoot-paymaster-who-hired-him-to-carry-out-attacks-on-former-quinn-companies-38683633.html

"... the financier..."  :o

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/sean-quinn-in-terrifying-good-friday-death-threat-30409388.html

Putting those 2 articles back to back and you don't have to be Einstein to know who they are pointing at. At this stage if SQ is not involved he would be best to present himself to the authorities for questioning to clear his name because unfortunately for him he is already guilty in many peoples eyes by association.

He has spoken to the PSNI and the Guards voluntarily already. I don't think there's much else he can do unless they come knocking with a warrant. Which if the papers are to be believed should be any day now. Unless there's things being presented as fact in the papers that is more conjecture. 

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« Reply #3126 on: November 12, 2019, 09:37:26 PM »
Speak of an Ass and he is sure to Pass

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-jimmy-once-threatened-to-shoot-paymaster-who-hired-him-to-carry-out-attacks-on-former-quinn-companies-38683633.html

"... the financier..."  :o

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/sean-quinn-in-terrifying-good-friday-death-threat-30409388.html

Putting those 2 articles back to back and you don't have to be Einstein to know who they are pointing at. At this stage if SQ is not involved he would be best to present himself to the authorities for questioning to clear his name because unfortunately for him he is already guilty in many peoples eyes by association.
That sounded like the PSNI have their snitches. In all probably, paymaster S  has distanced himself from direct contact with the thugs and good evidence will be in short supply.
I'd say by now even the paymaster knows it's a lost cause and the current Quinn directors all know who he is with a 100% certainty.

Of course one cannot completely eliminate the Grassy Knoll theories, the  possibility that the thugs are freely risking their life and limb  out of a misplaced (but commendable)  loyalty to promote the cause of citizen Quinn or alternatively, a bogeyman with deep pockets has emerged from the creepy dark shadows of the borderlands.
Probably those theories are too bizzare  even by Grassy Knoll standards.

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« Reply #3127 on: November 13, 2019, 09:05:04 AM »
If I was SQ I'd be sitting really uneasy this morning. By all accounts Dublin Jimmy thought he was safe in Derby and that no one knew where he was until they came knocking. The Garda and the PSNI appear to know a good bit more than SQ thinks they know.

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« Reply #3128 on: November 13, 2019, 09:48:29 AM »
A member of the paymasters family is said to have owned the house, where Dublin James was staying..

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« Reply #3129 on: November 13, 2019, 10:14:02 AM »
This paymaster thing is getting out of hand now....Lets just call him Zean Kuinn.

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« Reply #3130 on: November 13, 2019, 10:35:54 AM »
If I was SQ I'd be sitting really uneasy this morning. By all accounts Dublin Jimmy thought he was safe in Derby and that no one knew where he was until they came knocking. The Garda and the PSNI appear to know a good bit more than SQ thinks they know.

If he's been involved. If he's not he'll be quite keen for the Guards to move forward.

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« Reply #3131 on: November 13, 2019, 12:12:43 PM »
Any link with  Dublin Jimmy and the movement of people in lorries??

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« Reply #3132 on: November 13, 2019, 01:09:31 PM »
Nicola Tallant of the Sunday World was on Dunphy's podcast (she's often on talking about the Kinahans and is a great listen).

Some of the main points she made on the podcast were:

-It's been long known that Cyril McGuinness / Dublin Jimmy was the orchestrator of the attacks on "Quinn" businesses
-He was in jail in Siberia for a time and claims he had to eat rats to survive. He lost most of his teeth during his incarceration!
-He was the person called "Boss" when the Lunney attackers made a phonecall during the attack
-There are rumours that he was tout for either the gardai or psni (as a possible explanation as to why it took so long for him to be lifted). She said she knows for a fact he wasn't a tout for the gardai and she said it would be highly highly unlikely he worked for the psni. He was provo/dissident to the core and wouldn't have jeopardised that.
-She has had it substantiated that the son of the paymaster recently admonished McGuinness in a pub that he wasn't doing enough "what are we paying you for?"
-The police have CCTV of a suspect in the Lunney attack buying bleach.
-A big part of the reason for the multiple raids, including the Derby raid, was to collect phones so they can triangulate movements
-She doubts there's much on any laptop recovered in Derby     
 

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« Reply #3133 on: November 13, 2019, 01:30:22 PM »
Nicola Tallant of the Sunday World was on Dunphy's podcast (she's often on talking about the Kinahans and is a great listen).

Some of the main points she made on the podcast were:

-It's been long known that Cyril McGuinness / Dublin Jimmy was the orchestrator of the attacks on "Quinn" businesses

Its long known yet the attacks have been going on for 5/6 years and no one has been arrested and the man that it is well known to be orchestrating is living his normal life south of the border in Cavan.

-He was in jail in Siberia for a time and claims he had to eat rats to survive. He lost most of his teeth during his incarceration!

cool story dude

-He was the person called "Boss" when the Lunney attackers made a phonecall during the attack

The great thing about talking about a dead man is that you cannot libel him. How could she possibly know that?

-There are rumours that he was tout for either the gardai or psni (as a possible explanation as to why it took so long for him to be lifted). She said she knows for a fact he wasn't a tout for the gardai and she said it would be highly highly unlikely he worked for the psni. He was provo/dissident to the core and wouldn't have jeopardised that.

I was wondering how long it would take the media to come out with this one, he worked for the Gardai but not the PSNI as the CIRA wouldnt like that but they'd be ok with the Gardai. Such a load of bollix. Did she really say something that stupid.

-She has had it substantiated that the son of the paymaster recently admonished McGuinness in a pub that he wasn't doing enough "what are we paying you for?"

Does anyone else think that the secretive paymaster had his son walk into a pub and "admonish" this dangerous thug in public. I dont know, this sounds like more crap to me.

-The police have CCTV of a suspect in the Lunney attack buying bleach.

Yes, thats been known for weeks in Cavan anyway. Bought in Mullahoran I believe. Yet I dont think bleach buying is a crime yet.

-A big part of the reason for the multiple raids, including the Derby raid, was to collect phones so they can triangulate movements

This might be true lol

-She doubts there's much on any laptop recovered in Derby     

How would she know either way


The bottom line is I personally wouldn't believe a single word that comes out of a Sunday World journalists mouth. There is a truth out there and there are no doubt bits of the truth in what we are hearing but these "journalists" have to make it sound like they have some inside track and know the whole truth and although they'd love to tell us all they simply cant for legal reasons.

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« Reply #3134 on: November 13, 2019, 01:36:41 PM »
Nicola Tallant of the Sunday World was on Dunphy's podcast (she's often on talking about the Kinahans and is a great listen).

Some of the main points she made on the podcast were:

-It's been long known that Cyril McGuinness / Dublin Jimmy was the orchestrator of the attacks on "Quinn" businesses

Its long known yet the attacks have been going on for 5/6 years and no one has been arrested and the man that it is well known to be orchestrating is living his normal life south of the border in Cavan.

-He was in jail in Siberia for a time and claims he had to eat rats to survive. He lost most of his teeth during his incarceration!

cool story dude

-He was the person called "Boss" when the Lunney attackers made a phonecall during the attack

The great thing about talking about a dead man is that you cannot libel him. How could she possibly know that?

-There are rumours that he was tout for either the gardai or psni (as a possible explanation as to why it took so long for him to be lifted). She said she knows for a fact he wasn't a tout for the gardai and she said it would be highly highly unlikely he worked for the psni. He was provo/dissident to the core and wouldn't have jeopardised that.

I was wondering how long it would take the media to come out with this one, he worked for the Gardai but not the PSNI as the CIRA wouldnt like that but they'd be ok with the Gardai. Such a load of bollix. Did she really say something that stupid.

-She has had it substantiated that the son of the paymaster recently admonished McGuinness in a pub that he wasn't doing enough "what are we paying you for?"

Does anyone else think that the secretive paymaster had his son walk into a pub and "admonish" this dangerous thug in public. I dont know, this sounds like more crap to me.

-The police have CCTV of a suspect in the Lunney attack buying bleach.

Yes, thats been known for weeks in Cavan anyway. Bought in Mullahoran I believe. Yet I dont think bleach buying is a crime yet.

-A big part of the reason for the multiple raids, including the Derby raid, was to collect phones so they can triangulate movements

This might be true lol

-She doubts there's much on any laptop recovered in Derby     

How would she know either way


The bottom line is I personally wouldn't believe a single word that comes out of a Sunday World journalists mouth. There is a truth out there and there are no doubt bits of the truth in what we are hearing but these "journalists" have to make it sound like they have some inside track and know the whole truth and although they'd love to tell us all they simply cant for legal reasons.

On the face of it, you don't want to look at things objectively.

All the signs seem to point to who is behind it, the victims are absolutely convinced who is behind, there is only one group with the inventive and resources to fund this but none of that seems to matter to you.