Are we debasing our National Anthem?

Started by Tomorrow is another day, March 12, 2010, 11:18:16 PM

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Rossfan

Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 18, 2010, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 17, 2010, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 17, 2010, 10:24:44 AM

Once and for all, can somebody please explain to me what a "gael" is? Having established that, can we then define a "true gael"

A gael is a person who thinks,dreams,lives eats and drinks all things GAA.
A True Gael ( more correctly Fíor Gael) is one who has no time for mickey mouse codes of football like British controlled Soccer (The English,Scottish,Welsh and Irish(N.E) F A's have the same no. of votes on FIFA as the rest of the world) and that abomination of a so called sport that is Rugby.

Now you know.
Sad thing is you're probably serious.

Sadder that some people think that Soccer or that other sh1t can equal our wonderful games ;)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Bord na Mona man

It is debased from being over used and also by some of the woeful renditions of it that take place at GAA events.

The worst would be the slow, screechy, off key murdering the anthem gets by pipe bands down at Munster championship matches. The crowd start off trying to match the low key, get sick of it and start yelping and yahooing half way through.

At league matches you get all sorts of rickety recordings played over the tannoy, or maybe some nervous 11 year old Scór singer doing an a capella version of it, with various degrees of success.

Playing it on the tape recorder at GAA committee meetings really is a step too far.

Apple Crumble

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 18, 2010, 06:41:34 PM
It is debased from being over used and also by some of the woeful renditions of it that take place at GAA events.

The worst would be the slow, screechy, off key murdering the anthem gets by pipe bands down at Munster championship matches. The crowd start off trying to match the low key, get sick of it and start yelping and yahooing half way through.

At league matches you get all sorts of rickety recordings played over the tannoy, or maybe some nervous 11 year old Scór singer doing an a capella version of it, with various degrees of success.

Playing it on the tape recorder at GAA committee meetings really is a step too far.

Whats a 'tape recorder'???

Rossfan

Quote from: Apple Crumble on March 18, 2010, 06:47:52 PM

Playing it on the tape recorder at GAA committee meetings really is a step too far.

Whats a 'tape recorder'???
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I suppose you never heard of porther either  :o ::)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

bonaduche

Quote from: Main Street on March 18, 2010, 11:52:17 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on March 17, 2010, 11:29:18 PM
so whats the outcome? is the national anthem being debased? I'm as wise as ever except that now i suspect that we nordies have more in common with our immediate adversaries the unionists than with our so called brothers in the 26 counties apart from our love of Gaelic games that is. there is very definite resentment between north and south and its nothing to do with the outcome of football/hurling matches so what is it??
apart from our love of Gaelic games?
Only a Nordie would think that anything apart from a shared love of Gaelic games, matters that much in the scheme of things ::)

"Those who play its games, those who organise its activities and
those who control its destinies see in the G.A.A. a means of
consolidating our Irish identity. The games to them are more than
games - they have a national significance ...."
now we are NORDIES     ......The shinners call us six county residents ..... The unionists call us Northern Irish....... the Brits call us British.........  and YOU call us NORDIES!!!
it's NO WONDER WE HAVE AN IDENTITY CRISISES   HERE IN GOOD OLD  ULSTER

Lar Naparka

Quote from: Rossfan on March 17, 2010, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 17, 2010, 10:24:44 AM

Once and for all, can somebody please explain to me what a "gael" is? Having established that, can we then define a "true gael"

A gael is a person who thinks,dreams,lives eats and drinks all things GAA.
A True Gael ( more correctly Fíor Gael) is one who has no time for mickey mouse codes of football like British controlled Soccer (The English,Scottish,Welsh and Irish(N.E) F A's have the same no. of votes on FIFA as the rest of the world) and that abomination of a so called sport that is Rugby.

Now you know.
Now you're suckin' diesel!
You could go on to say that the purebred Fior Gael, as opposed to the common or garden one, wears a bainin and an embroidered crios at every possibly opportunity and most likely a Pioneer pin and a fainne as well.
On occasion, such as attending a Flea Cheoil or a Fianna fail convention meeting, the pin may see at variance with the behaviour and the bainin may become top heavy with Guinness stains but the medium and the message is the same:
The Fior Gael see it as his or her duty to tolerate the rest of us poor latchikos and to guide us by precept and example to a land where comely maidens and manly youths do their thing at country crossroads - as directed by the greatest Fior Gael of all; De Valera himself. Dev aka, the Long Fella to distinguish him from the Big Fella- who was no slouch at the Fior Gael stuff himself.
The genuine article wouldn't dream of attending any sporting or cultural occasion unless it involves standing at some stage for a rendition of Amhran na BhFiann.  The fact that the song was composed in English is ignored by the true FG. As he stands stock still like someone with a ramrod stuck up his backside, he manages to look straight ahead and at the same time cast disparaging glances at the inferior beings around him who betray their baser instincts by appearing to actually get worked up by the occasion.
The FG never displays emotion and certainly will not jump around or holler in any way. The one possible exception arises at set dancing events where he will interject politically correct yippees at appropriate moments or clap his hands ever so lightly in perfect timing with the music. At all times where he deems it necessary to emphasise his FG status, he will manage to convey a sense of utter disdain for those around him who fail to match his personal standards of racial and cultural perfection.
His paisti- if he rises to producing any, will be named Aoibhneas or Ferdia or even Aileann or Fionn or anything at all  as long as the moniker distinguishes them from the Micks or the Marys they will be forced to share the planet with. They are definitely not designed to stick the pace at a Mayo Roscommon final in McHale Park, are they?
Maybe we will find that out in July. ;)
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muppet

He will also never face east, the direction of the Sasanach.

This of course means all Fior Gael's from west of the Shannon reverse to Dublin.
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Rossfan

Too many steoeotypes there by the rhubarb lads.
The real fíor Gael hasnt time for a lot of that stuff as he's always coming from or going to a match or Committe or Divisional Board Meeting.( We'd never make it to County Board as he only wears a suit to Church.
He'll probably also have done a bit of reffin' till they started all these courses and things. Now he might get to do a bit of work on the gate or umpiring.
He'll always have some role in the county grounds on NFL days but of course gets left out for the Provincial Championship as Prenty brings the Ballyhaunis mafia and hires a Galway Security crowd.
Never happened in th'oul days when he was always around to let his neighbours drive in free or give them a few oul maor badges.
Without him there wouldnt be a GAA  :( :-\
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Lar Naparka

Quote from: Rossfan on March 19, 2010, 10:13:06 PM
Too many steoeotypes there by the rhubarb lads.
The real fíor Gael hasnt time for a lot of that stuff as he's always coming from or going to a match or Committe or Divisional Board Meeting.( We'd never make it to County Board as he only wears a suit to Church.
He'll probably also have done a bit of reffin' till they started all these courses and things. Now he might get to do a bit of work on the gate or umpiring.
He'll always have some role in the county grounds on NFL days but of course gets left out for the Provincial Championship as Prenty brings the Ballyhaunis mafia and hires a Galway Security crowd.
Never happened in th'oul days when he was always around to let his neighbours drive in free or give them a few oul maor badges.
Without him there wouldnt be a GAA  :( :-\
Never happened in th'oul days when he was always around to let his neighbours drive in free or give them a few oul maor badges.
Without him there wouldnt be a GAA   

Nah, that's the common or garden variety you refer to.  That's not altogether surprising as I doubt if you have many of the fíor type of anything in Sheepophile land.
Come to think of it, the only fear youse shower come across is when you face any stronger county.  By the looks of things, the count here is 31 and rising! ;D
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Puckoon

Fine rendition at Healy Park this evening.

Rossfan

Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 19, 2010, 10:58:07 PM
I doubt if you have many of the fíor type of anything in Sheepophile land.

We have a few fíor 21 year olds who softened a few Rhubarb coughs on St P's day ( on pitch and dressing room entrance  ;) :D)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

A Quinn Martin Production

Q:  How slowly can the National Anthem be sung?

Judging by the renditions before Ulster games in particular it has morphed from a military march to a funereal requiem.  Are these cailini commenting on what is about to happen??

Memo to Ulster Council:  FFS crank it up a bit and get on with the game!!
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Hereiam

Thought that myself. When was this passed by congress that these ladies could ruin our national anthem. Where are the bands to play at these games.

muppet

Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on June 07, 2010, 11:41:05 AM
Q:  How slowly can the National Anthem be sung?

Judging by the renditions before Ulster games in particular it has morphed from a military march to a funereal requiem.  Are these cailini commenting on what is about to happen??

Memo to Ulster Council:  FFS crank it up a bit and get on with the game!!

Yea, we need to give it the Jedward treatment.
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seafoid

To really debase it you'd need the Pixies