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Willie Frazer and FAIR
« on: March 08, 2010, 12:47:41 AM »
Willie Frazer has turned his back on the DUP, not bitter enough for him, TUV his new drink of choice.

Wonder how long this thread will last!  ::)

Welcome to FAIRArrogance and ignorance of Jimmy Spratt 
Friday, 05 March 2010 
Victims are disgusted by the arrogance and ignorance of Jimmy Spratt despite his willingness to speak on a matter that he clearly has little knowledge of. Now having been challenged to stand over his comments he has fallen silent, choosing to use his underling Chris Stalford to make a response. Therefore let us add cowardice to his charge sheet. I have issued a personal challenge to Mr Spratt to come to South Armagh, apologise and learn for himself what we do and how valuable real victims find our group. Since Jimmy Spratt’s scandalous attack upon victims was brought to our attention we made it quite clear that we would not be letting this matter drop.  When ordinary victims read his comments there were angry and hurt. Therefore let us set the record straight in the meeting Mr Spratt spoke directly to Patricia McBride sister of a PIRA terrorist and said -“Patricia, I was delighted to hear you say that you had been looking at how funding was spent between 2000 and 2008. By that, I assume that you meant that you looked at the funding that was allocated by the Community Relations Council, and so on.

 

However, as we all know, there are fat cats who have lived for years on the millions of pounds of funding from many sources that has been given to the various groups that they are supposed to represent. Very little of the money allocated to those groups gets to the grass roots, which is where it should be spent, because after you pay for the fat cats and their entourages, you would be lucky to be able to pay for a Christmas dinner or a trip to Scotland or down South from the money left. That concerns me, because some of those organisations are even buying advertising space in newspapers, which is almost political. That must be got to grips with.”

This sickening double act led to an attack on one group – FAIR, as we are the only one to have taken advertising space. Therefore we can only conclude that the ‘...fat cats and their entourages...’ comment is a direct and personal attack upon William Frazer and the FAIR staff and committee.  Let us say FAIR does not receive millions, and what it does receive is for specific victims work and programmes to assist victims in their everyday lives. Despite our membership growing massively the OFDFM linked funding has been frozen for over seven years. Let us put this in contrast to Mr Spratt and the money he has taken from the taxpayer. Looking at claims he has made from his double jobbing at Castlereagh Council and the Assembly we calculate that at present Mr Spratt is growing fat on a £ 55,539 annual salary. This is more than double the average FAIR workers salary! Secondly he takes over £75,000 in expenses based on his last full claim for 2008-2009, much of which goes to employ his wife as a part time office manager. At a time when victims groups are going to the wall because there are not enough funds to support even a part time administrator, its seems extravagant and nepotistic to employ an MLAs wife to manage office staff.

In total we calculate that since retiring and taking up politics as a retirement activity Mr Spratt has cost the taxpayer over £400,000. This is largely composed of a staggering £385,207.46 we calculate from his claims to council and the assembly since 2005 when he first entered council. The bulk of his claims, date from March 2007, with over £360,000 in salary and expenses, which is more than we get to run entire projects for the same period.  Add to this over the years his Police pension and other incomes such as a property portfolio from Belfast to Sheffield, a holiday home in Morocco and a farm in Comber and we get a picture of a man who has done rather well for himself. If anyone has grown fat over recent years it is Mr Spratt and his entourage and family who have all done very well from his far from productive spell in politics. He is the self proclaimed policing expert however since his involvement in the policing debate we have seen the RUC disbanded and destroyed, the continuance of 50-50 recruitment with over 1000 potential protestant applicants rejected, the closure of dozens of police stations, and the present situation where we find a crisis in policing in the face of a rising dissident threat.

Not satisfied with such a record of disaster and broken promises Mr Spratt also allowed the early devolution of Policing and Justice, a key Republican demand, to happen on his watch! His belated political career is marked by defeat after defeat if he was not already in retirement we would call for him to do so! Now he appears to be turning his ignorant gaze towards the victims sector. We say hands off the victims Mr Spratt, however as one widow commented given his record or failure any attempt to deny us funds would probably end in a windfall for the group! However his display of ignorance about the victims is the biggest insult as he alleges that nothing has been done for the victims on the ground. This is an outright and outrageous lie, and we demand that he publically apologises. When he claims that money does not reach victims I would again remind him that aside from the Northern Ireland Memorial Fund there are no other sources of direct funding for victims despite our calls. I would agree that the policies in place are utterly wrong but it is the OFDFM which put them there in the first place.

If he has a problem with us then he should be man enough to meet us and outline it, indeed we publically challenge him to a debate on victims’ issues and who has done more for victims. Our public record is clear, and our accounts are open we have no problem outlining to anyone what we do and where we get what little funds we do. As a group of our size and with our membership we are underfunded. We can outline evidence for the work we have done, we can produce thousands of victims who we have helped and who support our work, can he do the same?

Speaking at a meeting of outraged victims William Frazer said “This personal slanderous attack is not only against me and against FAIR but against all innocent victims who speak from their hearts. When I speak, I speak for thousands of victims who are often angry and disappointed, we have a right to voice our opinion, and this right was bought by the sacrifice of our loved ones and ourselves. It was bought in blood and we are entitled to spend our own money on advertising or literature or any means to express that opinion. I challenge Mr Spratt to a public debate on what victims groups have received and what they have not received, what they have done for ordinary victims and what they have not. We have the proof that shows him a liar and if he does not apologise we will publically expose him as such. I will take the victims whom he has slandered to his office, to Stormont or wherever to confront him. Sinn Fein/IRA have not silenced us in almost four decades and Jimmy Spratt, after his late entry into politics, will not achieve it now. Let him come and see what we do and listen to victims before he speaks. I on behalf of the victims he has slandered demand an apology.”
 
 
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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 09:34:23 AM »
Come on GD Abú. You know we can't have thread titles like that. Do you actually want us to get shut down?

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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 09:48:20 AM »
Yeah G D Abu you should change the heading to ardmhachaabu :D

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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2010, 10:58:39 AM »
I liked it...

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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 11:28:05 AM »
What was it?

I think getting the board shut down is a bit of an overreaction considering some of the sh1te the little b*ll*x Willie gets away with posting on his site. Mod 3 is just worried he'll turn up at the door of his house some evening with a made up Writ and video camera  ;)

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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 01:55:29 PM »
What was it?

I think getting the board shut down is a bit of an overreaction considering some of the sh1te the little b*ll*x Willie gets away with posting on his site. Mod 3 is just worried he'll turn up at the door of his house some evening with a made up Writ and video camera  ;)

and with a Garda escort screaming ethnic cleansing in the area
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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 03:13:31 PM »
What was it?

I think getting the board shut down is a bit of an overreaction considering some of the sh1te the little b*ll*x Willie gets away with posting on his site. Mod 3 is just worried he'll turn up at the door of his house some evening with a made up Writ and video camera  ;)

and with a Garda escort screaming ethnic cleansing in the area

What would a Garda be doing in England?
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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 06:17:05 PM »
Mod3 doesnt live in England sure...
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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2010, 06:29:31 PM »
Mod3 doesnt live in England sure...

I thought you did!
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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 11:40:25 PM »
Did yas see him on the news yesterday up in Stormont, issuing Martin McGuinness with a writ?
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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 01:21:12 AM »
Did yas see him on the news yesterday up in Stormont, issuing Martin McGuinness with a writ?

Who did this; was it Willie or Mod3?
Things can get a bit confusing for us poor sods in the Free State. ;D
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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2010, 09:50:51 AM »
Did yas see him on the news yesterday up in Stormont, issuing Martin McGuinness with a writ?

Seen that in th Irish news. :D

Pathetic little joke of a man.

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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2010, 10:44:38 AM »
A Sinn Féin spokesman described Frazer as the north's equivalent  of the Monster Looney party in England. Good description tho I think he is a bit more sinister than them... 

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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2010, 12:15:35 PM »
Are these real writ's he's issue or is he typing then up on the laptop at home and printing them off on the old bubblejet?

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Re: Willie Frazer
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2010, 12:48:47 PM »
Are these real writ's he's issue or is he typing then up on the laptop at home and printing them off on the old bubblejet?
They must be real as they say "Writ" on them, rather than "Rit".