Wilson called to the Dark Side

Started by Jim_Murphy_74, February 22, 2010, 12:02:09 PM

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Main Street

Most common question on the OWC when discussing a player from the 6 counties who has declared for the FAI  is     "what's his connection to the Republic?"
;D

Talk about, plain old head in the sand, self inflicted, blissful pig headed ignorance.







Ulick

I love this quote from Worthington:

"I think it is a ludicrous situation which needs to be resolved."

Maybe he missed it, but Sepp Blatter resolved the issue in Newcastle last year after the IFA rejected the compromise proposals and insisted on the letter of the law. Well now they have it, in the form of the GFA, Article 2, Section 1(vi).

MW

Quote from: Billys Boots on February 22, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Is that the young fellah who was bleating that he'd never play for any country but NI not 3 months ago?

Don't know, but it's pretty poor form IMO to play for one international team through U16, U17, U19, U21 and B international, (and even sit on the bench for the full international team) then decide you want to switch to play for another international team.

MW

Quote from: T Fearon on February 22, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
The IFA couldn't run a raffle. But surely now even they can see that they need to start promoting football for all which means ditching the unionst paraphernalia

Poor confused Tony. Can't even get your story straight...

fitzroyalty

Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 22, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Is that the young fellah who was bleating that he'd never play for any country but NI not 3 months ago?

Don't know, but it's pretty poor form IMO to play for one international team through U16, U17, U19, U21 and B international, (and even sit on the bench for the full international team) then decide you want to switch to play for another international team.
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Why so?

MW

Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 22, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Is that the young fellah who was bleating that he'd never play for any country but NI not 3 months ago?

Don't know, but it's pretty poor form IMO to play for one international team through U16, U17, U19, U21 and B international, (and even sit on the bench for the full international team) then decide you want to switch to play for another international team.
[/quote
Why so?

Obvious really.

It means a player has just used the underage structures of his first international team to gain international experience and put himself in the "shop window". Meanwhile some other young lad who actually wanted to represent that team has been denied a place each and every time he has turned out.

fitzroyalty

Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 22, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Is that the young fellah who was bleating that he'd never play for any country but NI not 3 months ago?

Don't know, but it's pretty poor form IMO to play for one international team through U16, U17, U19, U21 and B international, (and even sit on the bench for the full international team) then decide you want to switch to play for another international team.
[/quote
Why so?

Obvious really.

It means a player has just used the underage structures of his first international team to gain international experience and put himself in the "shop window". Meanwhile some other young lad who actually wanted to represent that team has been denied a place each and every time he has turned out.
I doubt any footballer thinks like that. He's probably thinking he can further his career [for a team he possibly supports] by making the switch.

MW

Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:27:16 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 22, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Is that the young fellah who was bleating that he'd never play for any country but NI not 3 months ago?

Don't know, but it's pretty poor form IMO to play for one international team through U16, U17, U19, U21 and B international, (and even sit on the bench for the full international team) then decide you want to switch to play for another international team.
[/quote
Why so?

Obvious really.

It means a player has just used the underage structures of his first international team to gain international experience and put himself in the "shop window". Meanwhile some other young lad who actually wanted to represent that team has been denied a place each and every time he has turned out.
I doubt any footballer thinks like that. He's probably thinking he can further his career [for a team he possibly supports] by making the switch.


Not exactly fair on the country he's used to get a leg-up before going where his heart desired, that.

MW

Quote from: Main Street on February 22, 2010, 10:22:15 PM
Most common question on the OWC when discussing a player from the 6 counties who has declared for the FAI  is     "what's his connection to the Republic?"
;D


Hardly going to be asked in this case. Duffy's father is from the RoI.

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 22, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Is that the young fellah who was bleating that he'd never play for any country but NI not 3 months ago?

Don't know, but it's pretty poor form IMO to play for one international team through U16, U17, U19, U21 and B international, (and even sit on the bench for the full international team) then decide you want to switch to play for another international team.

These are young lads though who probably don't know their arse from their elbow at that age. They probably just go with the flow early on and tog out for whoever will have them until they are forced one way or another to make a decision when they are a bit older.

red hander

Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:29:19 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:27:16 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 22, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Is that the young fellah who was bleating that he'd never play for any country but NI not 3 months ago?

Don't know, but it's pretty poor form IMO to play for one international team through U16, U17, U19, U21 and B international, (and even sit on the bench for the full international team) then decide you want to switch to play for another international team.
[/quote
Why so?

Obvious really.

It means a player has just used the underage structures of his first international team to gain international experience and put himself in the "shop window". Meanwhile some other young lad who actually wanted to represent that team has been denied a place each and every time he has turned out.
I doubt any footballer thinks like that. He's probably thinking he can further his career [for a team he possibly supports] by making the switch.


Not exactly fair on the country he's used to get a leg-up before going where his heart desired, that.

Here lies the problem ... you're not a country

fitzroyalty

Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:29:19 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:27:16 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 22, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Is that the young fellah who was bleating that he'd never play for any country but NI not 3 months ago?

Don't know, but it's pretty poor form IMO to play for one international team through U16, U17, U19, U21 and B international, (and even sit on the bench for the full international team) then decide you want to switch to play for another international team.
[/quote
Why so?

Obvious really.

It means a player has just used the underage structures of his first international team to gain international experience and put himself in the "shop window". Meanwhile some other young lad who actually wanted to represent that team has been denied a place each and every time he has turned out.
I doubt any footballer thinks like that. He's probably thinking he can further his career [for a team he possibly supports] by making the switch.


Not exactly fair on the country he's used to get a leg-up before going where his heart desired, that.
Footballers transfer all the time at club level, does that upset you as well? Might not be fair but it's the players choice and he is quite right to make it if he feels that it is the best move for him. Tough titty

The Subbie

Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 22, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Is that the young fellah who was bleating that he'd never play for any country but NI not 3 months ago?

Don't know, but it's pretty poor form IMO to play for one international team through U16, U17, U19, U21 and B international, (and even sit on the bench for the full international team) then decide you want to switch to play for another international team.

Be still thy bleeding heart.

If young mervyn or sammy from Monaghan,Cavan or Donegal did a volte face you'd be signing a different tune MW, away back to OWC and tell what the bogey men here are saying, night night

red hander

Quote from: Main Street on February 22, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
I think they would prefer to stew in bitterness, keep the Loyalist trappings and play the victim card.

You Nordies are very good at playing the victim  ;D

Don't confuse those Nordies with us Nordies ... different kettle of salmon

MW

Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:37:21 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:29:19 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:27:16 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 22, 2010, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 22, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
Is that the young fellah who was bleating that he'd never play for any country but NI not 3 months ago?

Don't know, but it's pretty poor form IMO to play for one international team through U16, U17, U19, U21 and B international, (and even sit on the bench for the full international team) then decide you want to switch to play for another international team.
[/quote
Why so?

Obvious really.

It means a player has just used the underage structures of his first international team to gain international experience and put himself in the "shop window". Meanwhile some other young lad who actually wanted to represent that team has been denied a place each and every time he has turned out.
I doubt any footballer thinks like that. He's probably thinking he can further his career [for a team he possibly supports] by making the switch.


Not exactly fair on the country he's used to get a leg-up before going where his heart desired, that.
Footballers transfer all the time at club level, does that upset you as well? Might not be fair but it's the players choice and he is quite right to make it if he feels that it is the best move for him. Tough titty

"Footballers transfer all the time at club level" is hardly an adequate response or analogy. Players sign contracts for their club and are free agents at the end of these. They can transfer for a fee in between times. No parallel wth international football there.

I'll say this for club football though. If players under 21 leave to go to another club at the end of their contract, there's still a "development" fee to be paid.