The Good American in Haiti

[magickingdom]

Magic Kingdom, when you say that:

"everthing else the US does around the world is done for the greater good, sometimes it works sometimes not but the motivation is always for the greater good. if one country has to be a world policeman then thank God its the US,

Are you saying that the killing of over 1million people in Iraq and Afghanistan is for the greater good? The dropping of the A bomb in Japan, killing over 300,000 and leaving generations deformed was for the greater good? Was the dropping of Nepalm and slaughter of hundreds of thousands in Vietnam for the greater good?
Was the support of vicious dictators in Latin and South America who murdered hundreds of thousands also for the greater good? Has the death of over 5,000 US troops in Iraq been for the greater good? Sure if you think these acts are for the greater good, then why have you not followed in your fathers footsteps and fought for the greater good? I'm sure sitting on your ass is for the greater good.

the A bomb saved lives in my opinion by ending the war in the pacific. i also clearly stated that while the US might mess up the motivation was always for the right reason. no doubt youd still be quite happy if Saddam Hussein was still terrorising and threatening Iraq's neighbours but i'm much happier the despot is gone

Nobody seemed to mind when that neighbour was Iran.

another shower of despots. . still if democracy gets a foothold in the area all the better. .

[give her dixie]

Is this the bullshit you are talking about tyrones Own?

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/797/heating-oil-chavez-venezuela

Help from Hugo Chavez: Free Heating Oil for Needy U.S. Families
by Vicki Ekstrom, Special to Stateline.
 
Close to 200,000 poor families in 15 cold-weather states -- in every Northeastern state except New Hampshire -- can thank controversial Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez for helping them heat their homes this winter.


The Venezuelan-controlled oil-refining company, Citgo Petroleum Corp., donated 45 million gallons of free home heating oil this winter in a move that bought good publicity for the country's socialist leader, who famously called President Bush "the devil" in a 2006 United Nations speech.

But New Hampshire's lack of participation in this year's free-oil program shows that accepting oil from Chavez, a frequent critic of the U.S. government, touches a political nerve.

"There's the thought that by participating we're somehow helping Venezuela and Chavez and that it's not something good for the U.S. government," said Gale Hennessey, director of Southern New Hampshire Services, which works with the state to administer aid to low-income households.

Venezuela's offer of free oil this winter came as the U.S. economy was slumping, federal assistance through the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) had dropped and home heating-oil prices hit a record high at more than $3.50 a gallon, according to the U.S. Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration database of monthly prices since 1990.

The almost 200,000 American families helped by Venezuela this winter is small compared with the almost 6 million families helped through LIHEAP. But LIHEAP was able to help only about 16% of families needing assistance, so Venezuela's program helped to fill a void until its supplies were exhausted early this winter season.

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=351054&CategoryId=10717




CARACAS – President Hugo Chavez announced Monday that he would write off the undisclosed sum Haiti owes Venezuela for oil as part of the ALBA bloc's plans to help the impoverished Caribbean nation after the devastating Jan. 12 earthquake.

"Haiti has no debt with Venezuela, just the opposite: Venezuela has a historical debt with that nation, with that people for whom we feel not pity but rather admiration, and we share their faith, their hope," Chavez said after the extraordinary meeting of foreign ministers of the Bolivarian Alliance for the Americas, or ALBA.

He also announced that ALBA has decided on a comprehensive plan that includes an immediate donation of $20 million to Haiti's health sector, and a fund that, Chavez said, will be at least $100 million "for starters."

Oil-rich Venezuela is the economic heart of ALBA, which also includes Cuba, Bolivia, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Dominica, Antigua and Barbuda, and St. Vincent and the Grenadines. Haiti is among several countries that send observers to ALBA meetings.

Chavez said one part of ALBA assistance to Haiti would consist of fuel distribution via "mobile service stations" set to be up and running within a few weeks.

The ALBA plan of aid for Haiti includes support for such sectors as agriculture, production, food imports and distribution, and immigration amnesty for Haitians living illegally in the bloc's member-states.

Cuba and Venezuela sent assistance and aid workers to Haiti within days of the magnitude-7.0 temblor that left an estimated 200,000 dead and 1.5 million people homeless.

The leftist Venezuelan leader also noted that there are some celebrities who want to work with ALBA, among whom he named actor Sean Penn, who, he said, called him because the members of a team of U.S. doctors now in Haiti want to "coordinate" their activities. EFE

[Arthur_Friend]

Magic Kingdom, when you say that:

"everthing else the US does around the world is done for the greater good, sometimes it works sometimes not but the motivation is always for the greater good. if one country has to be a world policeman then thank God its the US,

Are you saying that the killing of over 1million people in Iraq and Afghanistan is for the greater good? The dropping of the A bomb in Japan, killing over 300,000 and leaving generations deformed was for the greater good? Was the dropping of Nepalm and slaughter of hundreds of thousands in Vietnam for the greater good?
Was the support of vicious dictators in Latin and South America who murdered hundreds of thousands also for the greater good? Has the death of over 5,000 US troops in Iraq been for the greater good? Sure if you think these acts are for the greater good, then why have you not followed in your fathers footsteps and fought for the greater good? I'm sure sitting on your ass is for the greater good.

the A bomb saved lives in my opinion by ending the war in the pacific. i also clearly stated that while the US might mess up the motivation was always for the right reason. no doubt youd still be quite happy if Saddam Hussein was still terrorising and threatening Iraq's neighbours but i'm much happier the despot is gone

Nobody seemed to mind when that neighbour was Iran.

another shower of despots. . still if democracy gets a foothold in the area all the better. .

You're missing my point entirely.

[Denn Forever]

Well done all.

From RTE.

Haiti: Man pulled from rubble after 12 days
  Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:29
US troops have rescued a man from a collapsed building in Haiti's capital after 12 days under the rubble.

Haiti: Earthquake coverage/donation information
Photographs: Haiti in Pictures

The 31-year-old man was not buried in the original earthquake - but became trapped following an aftershock.

He was pulled by US soldiers from a collapsed building and was treated in hospital for dehydration and a broken leg.

The rescue brings the total number of people saved to 133.

Meanwhile, there are reports of riots at food distribution points in the capital city Port-au-Prince.

Shots were fired by police when a government food lorry was attacked by a mob in the Petionville area of the city.

Earlier this week UN peacekeeping troops fired tear gas outside the wrecked presidential palace when crowds overwhelmed a food drop.

Violent incidents are putting some people off going to aid distributions.

Food drops are being accompanied by US troops and UN peacekeepers.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton defended the US role in the relief operation from charges of heavy-handed incompetence.

Amid claims that the US operation had been badly coordinated with other states and agencies, Ms Clinton responded that she 'deeply resents those who attack our country.'

20,000 US troops have been sent to Haiti to distribute food and water.

So far, the Irish public has donated more than €12m to charities to date to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti.

Charities say this money will be used for immediate aid and for their long-term relief efforts in the country.

Concern has raised €4.5m, with GOAL raising €2.5m and Trocaire €2.7m. Red Cross, UNICEF and Oxfam have also raised significant amounts.

[give her dixie]

Arthur, Donald Rumsfeld had no problem with Saddam, so why should Magickingdom?

[Celt_Man]

Well done all.

From RTE.

Haiti: Man pulled from rubble after 12 days
  Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:29
US troops have rescued a man from a collapsed building in Haiti's capital after 12 days under the rubble.

Haiti: Earthquake coverage/donation information
Photographs: Haiti in Pictures

The 31-year-old man was not buried in the original earthquake - but became trapped following an aftershock.

He was pulled by US soldiers from a collapsed building and was treated in hospital for dehydration and a broken leg.

The rescue brings the total number of people saved to 133.

Meanwhile, there are reports of riots at food distribution points in the capital city Port-au-Prince.

Shots were fired by police when a government food lorry was attacked by a mob in the Petionville area of the city.

Earlier this week UN peacekeeping troops fired tear gas outside the wrecked presidential palace when crowds overwhelmed a food drop.

Violent incidents are putting some people off going to aid distributions.

Food drops are being accompanied by US troops and UN peacekeepers.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton defended the US role in the relief operation from charges of heavy-handed incompetence.

Amid claims that the US operation had been badly coordinated with other states and agencies, Ms Clinton responded that she 'deeply resents those who attack our country.'

20,000 US troops have been sent to Haiti to distribute food and water.

So far, the Irish public has donated more than €12m to charities to date to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti.

Charities say this money will be used for immediate aid and for their long-term relief efforts in the country.

Concern has raised €4.5m, with GOAL raising €2.5m and Trocaire €2.7m. Red Cross, UNICEF and Oxfam have also raised significant amounts.

Was just gonna post that Denn.... I have highlighted some parts about which I wonder should America continue to hang their head in shame...

[Tyrones own]

I still can't fathom I am taking T.O.'s side of view on the US bashing with me being a liberal and him a Republican loving SOB (in jest).

Speak without fear my friend...don't mind the back lash from the so called PC hate brigade! Tis wonderful to see what common ground can be found between us when we think for ourselves rather than listen to the hate speech from the Dictator sympathizers around here.
And again........................Yawn..............please don't insult me with a Republican Label.

[Tyrones own]

Tyrones Own, the Palestinians don't need propaganda to dislike the US.

Please do point to where exactly I said that they did  .... No ye see in your eagerness to
divulge your vast knowledge of all things Anti American you failed to notice I was addressing
Muppet's miserable failed attempt at propagandizing this thread with yet more Hate mongering!

[DrinkingHarp]

Well done all.

From RTE.

Haiti: Man pulled from rubble after 12 days
  Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:29
US troops have rescued a man from a collapsed building in Haiti's capital after 12 days under the rubble.

Haiti: Earthquake coverage/donation information
Photographs: Haiti in Pictures

The 31-year-old man was not buried in the original earthquake - but became trapped following an aftershock.

He was pulled by US soldiers from a collapsed building and was treated in hospital for dehydration and a broken leg.

The rescue brings the total number of people saved to 133.

Meanwhile, there are reports of riots at food distribution points in the capital city Port-au-Prince.

Shots were fired by police when a government food lorry was attacked by a mob in the Petionville area of the city.

Earlier this week UN peacekeeping troops fired tear gas outside the wrecked presidential palace when crowds overwhelmed a food drop.

Violent incidents are putting some people off going to aid distributions.

Food drops are being accompanied by US troops and UN peacekeepers.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton defended the US role in the relief operation from charges of heavy-handed incompetence.

Amid claims that the US operation had been badly coordinated with other states and agencies, Ms Clinton responded that she 'deeply resents those who attack our country.'

20,000 US troops have been sent to Haiti to distribute food and water.

So far, the Irish public has donated more than €12m to charities to date to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti.

Charities say this money will be used for immediate aid and for their long-term relief efforts in the country.

Concern has raised €4.5m, with GOAL raising €2.5m and Trocaire €2.7m. Red Cross, UNICEF and Oxfam have also raised significant amounts.

Was just gonna post that Denn.... I have highlighted some parts about which I wonder should America continue to hang their head in shame...

I am sure those survivors would also be ashamed of the Americans saving their lives.

What number of lives saved would be acceptable?

[Tyrones own]

Is this the bullshit you are talking about tyrones Own?

Excuse me? get your act together now John....you're getting very through other
in your frustration to get across how absolutely fabulous Chavez is... sure tell me this
why don't you pack up and head out to Venezuela if it's that great, I'm sure you'd fit
the bill perfectly like thon other useful idiot Penn

[Tyrones own]

Well done all.

From RTE.

Haiti: Man pulled from rubble after 12 days
  Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:29
US troops have rescued a man from a collapsed building in Haiti's capital after 12 days under the rubble.

Haiti: Earthquake coverage/donation information
Photographs: Haiti in Pictures

The 31-year-old man was not buried in the original earthquake - but became trapped following an aftershock.

He was pulled by US soldiers from a collapsed building and was treated in hospital for dehydration and a broken leg.

The rescue brings the total number of people saved to 133.

Meanwhile, there are reports of riots at food distribution points in the capital city Port-au-Prince.

Shots were fired by police when a government food lorry was attacked by a mob in the Petionville area of the city.

Earlier this week UN peacekeeping troops fired tear gas outside the wrecked presidential palace when crowds overwhelmed a food drop.

Violent incidents are putting some people off going to aid distributions.

Food drops are being accompanied by US troops and UN peacekeepers.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton defended the US role in the relief operation from charges of heavy-handed incompetence.

Amid claims that the US operation had been badly coordinated with other states and agencies, Ms Clinton responded that she 'deeply resents those who attack our country.'

20,000 US troops have been sent to Haiti to distribute food and water.

So far, the Irish public has donated more than €12m to charities to date to help the victims of the earthquake in Haiti.

Charities say this money will be used for immediate aid and for their long-term relief efforts in the country.

Concern has raised €4.5m, with GOAL raising €2.5m and Trocaire €2.7m. Red Cross, UNICEF and Oxfam have also raised significant amounts.

Yea seriously Denn...you're threading on thin ice around here posting that, it doesn't exactly
shine the same light that Dixie and his good little soldiers here would have us believe!

[give her dixie]

I think my photograph above shows who are are the Dictator sympthizers are around here. Correct me if i'm wrong, but was Chavez not demoticratically elected? Were Hamas not democratically elected? Was Morales not elected democratically elected? Was Aristidle not democratically elected in Haiti, and then removed by US/France?

I may not support them, but they were elected by their own people, and in my books, that is democracy and I support the will of the people. Sure I even supported US democracy whenever they elected the worlds biggest warlord in Bush.

The US have been the biggest supporter of Dictators, and the biggest opponents of democracy.
Enough said.

[Celt_Man]

I think my photograph above shows who are are the Dictator sympthizers are around here. Correct me if i'm wrong, but was Chavez not demoticratically elected? Were Hamas not democratically elected? Was Morales not elected democratically elected? Was Aristidle not democratically elected in Haiti, and then removed by US/France?

I may not support them, but they were elected by their own people, and in my books, that is democracy and I support the will of the people. Sure I even supported US democracy whenever they elected the worlds biggest warlord in Bush.

The US have been the biggest supporter of Dictators, and the biggest opponents of democracy.
Enough said.

Was Hilter not democractically elected??

I understand your point GHD, I really do but that's not to say that a democractically elected can't be a bad thing or a dicator either

[Tyrones own]

Ah sure ye left out Ahmadinejad..wasn't he democratically elected also
Wise up FFS

[Celt_Man]

Just heard on the news that the airport in Port au Prince is working at 170% capacity... 

Shameful from Americans...