The Good American in Haiti

[muppet]

Sure show us proof that Sadam killed millions?

Sure thing George...right after you prove to all here how Bush is responsible for killing Millions
Shucks...I know, it's another dang question but I can always hope

Hope that no one notices? Don't think it's working...........

Surely you don't think for a minute that you're collective reluctance to answer any serious questions
put forth is being lost on anyone here

Fear not those who argue but those who dodge
-T.O

You aren't asking a question. You are telling an answer and trying to get me to agree with it. See?

[Tyrones own]

Proof that Bush is responsible for murdering over a million is the fact that he invaded Iraq illegally.

But George.... there hasn't been a million innocent people killed in Iraq ...please do explain!

[Tyrones own]

Muppet.... is there ever a good time in the eyes of a sympathizer to remove a murdering Stalinist from power?
Ah go on answer it...I'm not sure I can dumb down the question any further for you because  A)you seem to support Meow
with his sympathetic view on Dictators and B) Stalin was a self proclaimed Idol of Saddams so I believe it's a perfectly good question
to ask someone like yourself,
"is there ever a good time in the eyes of a sympathizer to remove a murdering Stalinist from power"?

That is an idiotic and typically loaded question. It is up there with the playgrounds "na na na na na". 

Why  it really is a very simple question....am I right to take from this then that it was OK for him to kill innocent Iraqi's in your eyes
just so long as it wasn't US forces doing it or is it that you simply don't like the answer you have to give

No you certainly are not.

Please show how you came to that ridiculous conclusion?

Right so we're getting warmer then.... if I'm wrong, where am i wrong?

[Tyrones own]

You aren't asking a question. You are telling an answer and trying to get me to agree with it. See?

you mean like this;

It can only be concluded that you, like me, don't believe the war in Iraq was justified.

[muppet]

Muppet.... is there ever a good time in the eyes of a sympathizer to remove a murdering Stalinist from power?
Ah go on answer it...I'm not sure I can dumb down the question any further for you because  A)you seem to support Meow
with his sympathetic view on Dictators and B) Stalin was a self proclaimed Idol of Saddams so I believe it's a perfectly good question
to ask someone like yourself,
"is there ever a good time in the eyes of a sympathizer to remove a murdering Stalinist from power"?

That is an idiotic and typically loaded question. It is up there with the playgrounds "na na na na na". 

Why  it really is a very simple question....am I right to take from this then that it was OK for him to kill innocent Iraqi's in your eyes
just so long as it wasn't US forces doing it or is it that you simply don't like the answer you have to give

No you certainly are not.

Please show how you came to that ridiculous conclusion?

Right so we're getting warmer then.... if I'm wrong, where am i wrong?

You haven't the confidence to present a rational logical case for the US action in Iraq.

[muppet]

You aren't asking a question. You are telling an answer and trying to get me to agree with it. See?

you mean like this;

It can only be concluded that you, like me, don't believe the war in Iraq was justified.

I invited you to discuss Iraq. You respond with rhetorical questions, straw man arguments and dogma.

I have made my case and stand over my conclusion.

[Tyrones own]

You haven't the confidence to present a rational logical case for the US action in Iraq.

FFS I've stuck my neck out so many times here...it's just that neither of you have the substance or the the balls for that matter
to take the swing!

[Tyrones own]

What case and how could there be a conclusion with so many unanswered questions
ye wouldn't be claiming a premature victory here now would you?

[muppet]

You haven't the confidence to present a rational logical case for the US action in Iraq.

FFS I've stuck my neck out so many times here...it's just that neither of you have the substance or the the balls for that matter
to take the swing!

No you haven't.

You spout on sensationally about self confessed Stalinists and shed crocodile tears for a million dead Iraqis killed by Saddam but justify the 100,000 dead Iraqis killed by Bush.

That is not debating it is ranting.

When pushed on any issue you try to jump off on tangents such as Iran which is actually poetic because I believe when the NeoCons get back into power they will go into Iran.

They, like you, have learned nothing from Vietnam or Iraq and will do it again.

[Tyrones own]

You spout on sensationally about self confessed Stalinists

Really .....? are you trying to imply that saddam didn't idolize stalin

shed crocodile tears for a million dead Iraqis killed by Saddam but justify the 100,000 dead Iraqis killed by Bush.

Weather I do or do not is irrelevant to the fact you still don't seem to have a problem with the innocent people he killed just the one's
caught up in Bush's invasion!

When pushed on any issue you try to jump off on tangents such as Iran which is actually poetic because I believe when the NeoCons get back into power they will go into Iran.

So Iran is a Tangent now  ...the fact that the Democratically Elected   Holocaust denier want's to blow Israel off the map and is thumbing his nose to the United Nations that you boy's revere around here  so much with his push for nuclear armament.
Yes history is indeed repeating itself alright....so since Bush obviously dropped the ball with a supposed threat at the time
How should we proceed now with Iran?? or is that all propaganda from the US also

[magickingdom]

You aren't asking a question. You are telling an answer and trying to get me to agree with it. See?

you mean like this;

It can only be concluded that you, like me, don't believe the war in Iraq was justified.

I invited you to discuss Iraq. You respond with rhetorical questions, straw man arguments and dogma.

I have made my case and stand over my conclusion.

if you want to discuss iraq why dont you open a thread on it?

[muppet]

You spout on sensationally about self confessed Stalinists

Really .....? are you trying to imply that saddam didn't idolize stalin

I don't care if he idolised sex with rabbits. Hussein, Stalin, Hitler or NeoCon blood thirsty murderous bastards all of them.

shed crocodile tears for a million dead Iraqis killed by Saddam but justify the 100,000 dead Iraqis killed by Bush.

Weather I do or do not is irrelevant to the fact you still don't seem to have a problem with the innocent people he killed just the one's
caught up in Bush's invasion!

I have a problem with all the innocent killed in Iraq. You are the one defending the killing of 100,000 of them. I am defending none of those deaths. As usual you assume any criticism of the States must be support for the complete opposite.

When pushed on any issue you try to jump off on tangents such as Iran which is actually poetic because I believe when the NeoCons get back into power they will go into Iran.

So Iran is a Tangent now  ...the fact that the Democratically Elected   Holocaust denier want's to blow Israel off the map and is thumbing his nose to the United Nations that you boy's revere around here  so much with his push for nuclear armament.
Yes history is indeed repeating itself alright....so since Bush obviously dropped the ball with a supposed threat at the time
How should we proceed now with Iran?? or is that all propaganda from the US also

You mean like the Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq? Israel has a massive nuclear arsenal thanks to the States. The chances of Iran attacking Israel are about the same as Ireland invading Germany.

I think the world would be a far safer place if middle eastern countries were armed a bit more equally. Israel might refrain from bravely attacking stone age people with their F-16s and the US might avoid bravely attacking other bronze age societies.

But of course any opinion that doesn't want Iran & Iraq liberated razed to the ground must belong to a US hater.

[stew]

My quotation thingy is on the blink.

So you think that the world would be a safer place if all middle eastern countries had roughly the same amount of weapons capability, are you on f**king drugs or something.

Of course no middle eastern countries have ever went to war with Israel before.

[muppet]

My quotation thingy is on the blink.

So you think that the world would be a safer place if all middle eastern countries had roughly the same amount of weapons capability, are you on f**king drugs or something.

Of course no middle eastern countries have ever went to war with Israel before.

I would think the world would be a safer place if one particularly aggressive regime, surrounded by backward countries, wasn't armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons and F-16s, yes.

I didn't say it would stop all wars but then this is more of the typical NeoCon style of argument. If I said that I thought Rooney was a good player the US response would accuse me of wanting to bomb Eastlands.

[Tyrones own]

You mean like the Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq? Israel has a massive nuclear arsenal thanks to the States. The chances of Iran attacking Israel are about the same as Ireland invading Germany.

I'm not aware of any reports that Israel has warned and is committed to blowing anyone off the map with said WMD's but hey, feel free to enlighten us here!

I think the world would be a far safer place if middle eastern countries were armed a bit more equally. Israel might refrain from bravely attacking stone age people with their F-16s and the US might avoid bravely attacking other bronze age societies.

That's the kind of dangerous passive thinking that will get us all killed.... how anyone could be seen to justify Ahmadinejad getting his hands on nuclear weapons defies logic...

But of course any opinion that doesn't want Iran & Iraq liberated razed to the ground must belong to a US hater.

No, of course not... Sure Iran's own citizens don't want there country razed to the ground either and are willing to die for the cause by being sentenced to Death by the democracy that is alive and well in Iran,
are they western propagandists also?