Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

Started by Trevor Hill, January 18, 2010, 12:28:52 AM

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RedHand88

Quote from: Deerstalker on March 13, 2026, 09:47:32 AMI read this morning someone saying if they feel so strongly the pay rise is excessive why don't they pass a motion to rescind it ?

Or donate the difference to charity. Haven't seen anyone offer that either.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: RedHand88 on March 13, 2026, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: Deerstalker on March 13, 2026, 09:47:32 AMI read this morning someone saying if they feel so strongly the pay rise is excessive why don't they pass a motion to rescind it ?

Or donate the difference to charity. Haven't seen anyone offer that either.

TUV are doing that... I'd like to see proof of that lovely gesture but will take his word on that  ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AustinPowers

Quote from: Deerstalker on March 13, 2026, 09:47:32 AMI read this morning someone saying if they feel so strongly the pay rise is excessive why don't they pass a motion to rescind it ?

And it would  prove people wrong who say they can't agree  on anything

Brendan

Do the shinners still let on their elected reps only take the average industrial wage? If so the extra will just be going back into the party anyway

Deerstalker

Quote from: Brendan on March 13, 2026, 10:50:24 AMDo the shinners still let on their elected reps only take the average industrial wage? If so the extra will just be going back into the party anyway

No I think that policy is long gone

Brendan

Quote from: Deerstalker on March 13, 2026, 10:53:08 AM
Quote from: Brendan on March 13, 2026, 10:50:24 AMDo the shinners still let on their elected reps only take the average industrial wage? If so the extra will just be going back into the party anyway

No I think that policy is long gone

Theres a surprise...

Party full of Careerists this last decade

playwiththewind1st

Quote from: RedHand88 on March 13, 2026, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: Deerstalker on March 13, 2026, 09:47:32 AMI read this morning someone saying if they feel so strongly the pay rise is excessive why don't they pass a motion to rescind it ?

Or donate the difference to charity. Haven't seen anyone offer that either.

I set up exactly such a scheme for them, back in 2020, when they came back to Stormont & it was suggested that they forego the automatic annual £500 rise that they were due that year. I can't remember the exact figure, but i might as well not have wasted my time, as less than a dozen of them bothered signing up to it. The rest just pocketed the loot, as usual.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Brendan on March 13, 2026, 10:50:24 AMDo the shinners still let on their elected reps only take the average industrial wage? If so the extra will just be going back into the party anyway
Yes but they can opt out with party permission.

Deerstalker

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on March 13, 2026, 12:19:38 PM
Quote from: Brendan on March 13, 2026, 10:50:24 AMDo the shinners still let on their elected reps only take the average industrial wage? If so the extra will just be going back into the party anyway
Yes but they can opt out with party permission.

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/sinn-feins-wage-bill-northern-24822827?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

In the past Sinn Féin had long maintained all its MLAs and MPs accepted an "average industrial wage" with the rest donated to the party and constituency matters.

But in 2018, the party said a review of its wage structures two years previous led to a "recommended party wage" which is "entirely voluntary".

https://businessplus.ie/news/sinn-fein-wage/

Sinn Féin TDs give €22,000 of their annual €107,000 salary back to the State, party sources confirmed to the Irish Mail on Sunday over the weekend, writes John Lee.

Party TDs privately confirmed this week that they are "expected" to hand back a "minimum" of €22,000 of their Dáil salaries which would still leave them earning significantly more than the average industrial wage.




JoG2

Quote from: Truthsayer on March 13, 2026, 09:16:21 AM
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Quote from: LC on March 12, 2026, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 12, 2026, 07:22:31 PMAs per Irish News: Northern Ireland has 40% more public sector workers per capita than England, new figures reveal.

It has been estimated that the Stormont Executive would have an additional £2.5bn to spend on public services if the number of state-employed workers per capita matched those in England.

What an embarrassing shit show Sinn Fein and the DUP are presiding over. Civil Service recruiting like there's no tomorrow, to dream up more red tape for doctors, nurses, teachers and the rest of us.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgj8xgq74qo

And getting well rewarded for it in the process.
Obscene and at the same time crocodile tears about the cost of home heating oil to families. Lining their pockets.. a pay rise of £270 a week.

£107 odd increase per week, no? Still not to be sniffed at
£14,200 payrise a year... 52 weeks in a year...
£14,200 ÷ 52 = £273:07 increase per week  🤷

Yeah, but you're into the 40% tax bracket over £50 odd thousand
We all pay tax... (if we're waged)..

I'm a 'net' man. The gross amount on the payslip is the 'heres what you could've won' figure...the heady world of Musk, McManus etc

tbrick18

I think I read something a while back that part of the reason the public sector worker per capita ratio is so high here compared to England is that we provide some of the public services for England/Wales. No idea what the percentage is and I'm not trying to justify the number of public sector workers we have, but it might not be fair to do a direct like for like comparison if this is the case.

I think its also bound to be a factor in England that private sector jobs there generally pay more than here, which makes the public sector in England a less attractive job than it is here.

playwiththewind1st

Quote from: tbrick18 on March 13, 2026, 03:20:10 PMI think I read something a while back that part of the reason the public sector worker per capita ratio is so high here compared to England is that we provide some of the public services for England/Wales. No idea what the percentage is and I'm not trying to justify the number of public sector workers we have, but it might not be fair to do a direct like for like comparison if this is the case.

I think its also bound to be a factor in England that private sector jobs there generally pay more than here, which makes the public sector in England a less attractive job than it is here.

I remember years ago when i was working for Royal Mail & the entire UK returned letter function was brought into the Tomb Street HQ, in Belfast. I think that the IDB stumped up a lot of cash, as a "sweetener". "Creating" public sector jobs like that reduced the dole queue, at the time & it probably helped too as a way of manipulating & massaging the Fair Employment statistics.

Deerstalker

Quote from: tbrick18 on March 13, 2026, 03:20:10 PMI think I read something a while back that part of the reason the public sector worker per capita ratio is so high here compared to England is that we provide some of the public services for England/Wales. No idea what the percentage is and I'm not trying to justify the number of public sector workers we have, but it might not be fair to do a direct like for like comparison if this is the case.

I think its also bound to be a factor in England that private sector jobs there generally pay more than here, which makes the public sector in England a less attractive job than it is here.

That's correct, for certain parts of the benefits system

JoG2

Working in the public sector is like putting on one of those swanky bathrobes if you stay in a decent hotel, would highly recommend

marty34

Quote from: BigGreenField on March 13, 2026, 10:16:59 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 12, 2026, 07:22:31 PMAs per Irish News: Northern Ireland has 40% more public sector workers per capita than England, new figures reveal.

It has been estimated that the Stormont Executive would have an additional £2.5bn to spend on public services if the number of state-employed workers per capita matched those in England.

What an embarrassing shit show Sinn Fein and the DUP are presiding over. Civil Service recruiting like there's no tomorrow, to dream up more red tape for doctors, nurses, teachers and the rest of us.

The sdlps O Toole isn't everyone's cup of tea, he did nail both parties approach in the View last night no cohesion, no ideas, just picking fights and refusing to take responsibility.




That the way the 6 counties will always be.  It was set up that way.