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« Reply #6315 on: July 01, 2020, 12:26:18 PM »
I don't think anyone is suggesting two wrongs make a right, but you just have to laugh about the people making the most noise about this, and the very notion that their concern is for public health.

I didn't see one single complaint about the funeral distancing breaches at Garda Horkan's funeral, which included distancing breaches by at least one FG government minister. Another FG TD, Jennifer Carrol McNeill, was vocally critical on Twitter yesterday about breaches of Social Distancing at yesterday's funeral. This same woman was photographed on the front page of the paper during the week, sitting on a bench right next to another two FG TDs.

Anyone who said f#@k all about Garda Horkan's funeral, but who is jumping up and down about Bobby Storey's funeral, can go do one.

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« Reply #6316 on: July 01, 2020, 12:29:49 PM »
I don't think anyone is suggesting two wrongs make a right, but you just have to laugh about the people making the most noise about this, and the very notion that their concern is for public health.

I didn't see one single complaint about the funeral distancing breaches at Garda Horkan's funeral, which included distancing breaches by at least one FG government minister. Another FG TD, Jennifer Carrol McNeill, was vocally critical on Twitter yesterday about breaches of Social Distancing at yesterday's funeral. This same woman was photographed on the front page of the paper during the week, sitting on a bench right next to another two FG TDs.

Anyone who said f#@k all about Garda Horkan's funeral, but who is jumping up and down about Bobby Storey's funeral, can go do one.

+1 All should be called out and haven't been.

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« Reply #6317 on: July 01, 2020, 01:01:49 PM »
I don't think anyone is suggesting two wrongs make a right, but you just have to laugh about the people making the most noise about this, and the very notion that their concern is for public health.

I didn't see one single complaint about the funeral distancing breaches at Garda Horkan's funeral, which included distancing breaches by at least one FG government minister. Another FG TD, Jennifer Carrol McNeill, was vocally critical on Twitter yesterday about breaches of Social Distancing at yesterday's funeral. This same woman was photographed on the front page of the paper during the week, sitting on a bench right next to another two FG TDs.

Anyone who said f#@k all about Garda Horkan's funeral, but who is jumping up and down about Bobby Storey's funeral, can go do one.

+1 All should be called out and haven't been.

There is a reason for that. The photos of the Garda funeral weren't as widely shared as the Storey one. I didn't see any until today.

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« Reply #6318 on: July 01, 2020, 01:08:18 PM »
I don't think anyone is suggesting two wrongs make a right, but you just have to laugh about the people making the most noise about this, and the very notion that their concern is for public health.

I didn't see one single complaint about the funeral distancing breaches at Garda Horkan's funeral, which included distancing breaches by at least one FG government minister. Another FG TD, Jennifer Carrol McNeill, was vocally critical on Twitter yesterday about breaches of Social Distancing at yesterday's funeral. This same woman was photographed on the front page of the paper during the week, sitting on a bench right next to another two FG TDs.

Anyone who said f#@k all about Garda Horkan's funeral, but who is jumping up and down about Bobby Storey's funeral, can go do one.

+1 All should be called out and haven't been.

There is a reason for that. The photos of the Garda funeral weren't as widely shared as the Storey one. I didn't see any until today.

Seriously!? You don't watch the news or flick through the papers. You probably did see pictures but didnt see an issue.

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« Reply #6319 on: July 01, 2020, 01:12:42 PM »
I don't think anyone is suggesting two wrongs make a right, but you just have to laugh about the people making the most noise about this, and the very notion that their concern is for public health.

I didn't see one single complaint about the funeral distancing breaches at Garda Horkan's funeral, which included distancing breaches by at least one FG government minister. Another FG TD, Jennifer Carrol McNeill, was vocally critical on Twitter yesterday about breaches of Social Distancing at yesterday's funeral. This same woman was photographed on the front page of the paper during the week, sitting on a bench right next to another two FG TDs.

Anyone who said f#@k all about Garda Horkan's funeral, but who is jumping up and down about Bobby Storey's funeral, can go do one.

+1 All should be called out and haven't been.

There is a reason for that. The photos of the Garda funeral weren't as widely shared as the Storey one. I didn't see any until today.

And why do you think that would be?

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« Reply #6320 on: July 01, 2020, 01:20:37 PM »
The deflecting whataboutry cavalry have been sent into action.
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« Reply #6321 on: July 01, 2020, 01:21:33 PM »
It was a very poor judgement call from SF and Michelle O'Neill in particular given how they campaigned vigorously for schools closure (correctly imo) prior to any initial Covid lockdown. This just makes the decision even more bewildering since they were possibly the strongest advocates for locking down at the beginning. So what has changed, we know that the virus has not gone away. They have left themselves wide open for criticism.

Predictably as always in this place it has now turned into an us and them political football and a mud slinging contest ably assisted yet again by Stephen Nolan. It is a bit OTT to suggest that it is a resignation matter but it is a problem entirely of SF's doing and a former Health Minister, no less really should have known better. As a public figure she will have lost all credibility now if she is standing on a podium announcing new lockdown measures or restrictions.   

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« Reply #6322 on: July 01, 2020, 01:22:41 PM »
The deflecting whataboutry cavalry have been sent into action.

Deflecting? No.

Whataboutery? Absolutely.

When people pretend to be outraged as social distancing breaches involving SF, they 100% deserve to be called out for their silence on social distancing by FG.

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« Reply #6323 on: July 01, 2020, 01:38:32 PM »
The deflecting whataboutry cavalry have been sent into action.

Deflecting? No.

Whataboutery? Absolutely.

When people pretend to be outraged as social distancing breaches involving SF, they 100% deserve to be called out for their silence on social distancing by FG.
+1 The whataboutery defence is usually employed after bouts of selective outrage.
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« Reply #6324 on: July 01, 2020, 01:57:28 PM »
I see Neale Richmond has hopped on the bandwagon, and is making demands that Mary Lou and Pearse Doherty apologise to the DŠil for breaching social distancing at a funeral.

He has not asked his colleague Charlie Flanagan to apologise to the DŠil for breaching social distancing at another funeral.

Maybe he has seen some sort of new research indicating that the coronavirus can only infects people attending funeral of Sinn Fťin members or something.

Either that, or he's just another hypocritical mouthpiece.

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« Reply #6325 on: July 01, 2020, 02:16:49 PM »
I don't think anyone is suggesting two wrongs make a right, but you just have to laugh about the people making the most noise about this, and the very notion that their concern is for public health.

I didn't see one single complaint about the funeral distancing breaches at Garda Horkan's funeral, which included distancing breaches by at least one FG government minister. Another FG TD, Jennifer Carrol McNeill, was vocally critical on Twitter yesterday about breaches of Social Distancing at yesterday's funeral. This same woman was photographed on the front page of the paper during the week, sitting on a bench right next to another two FG TDs.

Anyone who said f#@k all about Garda Horkan's funeral, but who is jumping up and down about Bobby Storey's funeral, can go do one.

Garda Horkan's funeral was pretty effectively socially distanced, and SF definitely made an effort too. However, the difference was that Vardakar did not travel to Mayo while Mary-Lou and Pearse Doherty did go Belfast, so there was a difference of tone in the two events. SF needed to make a point here about public responsibility and they failed to do and even if Jennifer Carrol McNeil is a hypocrite that in no way justifies SF.
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« Reply #6326 on: July 01, 2020, 02:18:54 PM »
The deflecting whataboutry cavalry have been sent into action.

Deflecting? No.

Whataboutery? Absolutely.

When people pretend to be outraged as social distancing breaches involving SF, they 100% deserve to be called out for their silence on social distancing by FG.
+1 The whataboutery defence is usually employed after bouts of selective outrage.
I don't think anyone is suggesting two wrongs make a right, but you just have to laugh about the people making the most noise about this, and the very notion that their concern is for public health.

I didn't see one single complaint about the funeral distancing breaches at Garda Horkan's funeral, which included distancing breaches by at least one FG government minister. Another FG TD, Jennifer Carrol McNeill, was vocally critical on Twitter yesterday about breaches of Social Distancing at yesterday's funeral. This same woman was photographed on the front page of the paper during the week, sitting on a bench right next to another two FG TDs.

Anyone who said f#@k all about Garda Horkan's funeral, but who is jumping up and down about Bobby Storey's funeral, can go do one.

Garda Horkan's funeral was pretty effectively socially distanced, and SF definitely made an effort too. However, the difference was that Vardakar did not travel to Mayo while Mary-Lou and Pearse Doherty did go Belfast, so there was a difference of tone in the two events. SF needed to make a point here about public responsibility and they failed to do and even if Jennifer Carrol McNeil is a hypocrite that in no way justifies SF.

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« Reply #6327 on: July 01, 2020, 02:19:30 PM »
There are hypocrites on all sides of this. People calling for Cummings to resign but quiet on this, people backing Cummings but cracking up about this. Add in FG too and other episodes no doubt.

There are those who believe that itís a 2 finger salute to their dead relative who mustnít be important enough. To be honest, I donít think itís about their relative at all.
Then, there are those who have now decided that they arenít going to heed any of the guidelines because of this. Foolish, if you ask me.

However, SF fouled the ball here and deserve their turn at taking the pasting. I donít understand how they just walked themselves into this. It just seems so obvious, stupid and needless. I do think that they do take a bit of stick, unfairly at times, more so than other parties and I have defended them on certain things but they do come across as arrogant pricks at times.


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« Reply #6328 on: July 01, 2020, 02:28:17 PM »
There are hypocrites on all sides of this. People calling for Cummings to resign but quiet on this, people backing Cummings but cracking up about this. Add in FG too and other episodes no doubt.

There are those who believe that itís a 2 finger salute to their dead relative who mustnít be important enough. To be honest, I donít think itís about their relative at all.
Then, there are those who have now decided that they arenít going to heed any of the guidelines because of this. Foolish, if you ask me.

However, SF fouled the ball here and deserve their turn at taking the pasting. I donít understand how they just walked themselves into this. It just seems so obvious, stupid and needless. I do think that they do take a bit of stick, unfairly at times, more so than other parties and I have defended them on certain things but they do come across as arrogant pricks at times.

The Shinners were totally in the wrong with what transpired at Storeys funeral, goes without saying and being in positions of power (and influence) need to be held to a higher standard than those out protesting with BLM or "minding" statues..

Tough time for everyone in showing their respects to our dead friends and family, but when the time is right their lives should be celebrated, but not now.

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« Reply #6329 on: July 01, 2020, 02:28:50 PM »
I think the thinking from SF here is, whatís more important, showing an example or giving our comrade a good send-off? Either way there was always going to be a big crowd lining the route so they clearly thought ďfŁck itĒ and just went with the latter. As such all criticism is fully justified. I just canít stand selective criticism. Will the same be said of the people out attending that poor young fellaís funeral? Unlikely.