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« Reply #5685 on: November 29, 2019, 09:14:31 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50586471#comp-comments-button

This is what our politicians have delivered, not the stuff you see in their bluffing tweets, SF and DUP need pounded at the polling box

Without trying to defend SF/DUP, it’s not just their fault. Pre-recession, there was always lengthy waiting lists. Stormont is handed loose change from London and told to sort out the north. They never got enough money or never will.

SF/DUP know the reality of the situation. Which is why they use diversionary politics to cover up the fact they can’t change a big pile

Waiting lists have increased by 8% in last year, this is at a more quicker rate than when we had some sort of local agreement or government

It's a real SF and DUP tactic. Waiting lists was always a problem. It Tory austerity. Blah, Blah, Blah. People here, I hope take this opportunity at the ballot box to tell SF and the DUP to get back to work or they'll be replaced. I read that Doctors and Consultants in NI are hoping that their own relatives don't get ill because they know the health service is fucked and they won't be treated. People are literally dying.

If Westminster doesn't matter (as SF keep telling us) then don't vote for them.

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« Reply #5686 on: December 14, 2019, 11:40:31 AM »
Reports this morning suggest that no matter what Leo and Mícheál might be saying in public that the GE in the 26 will be in February.
Some in the Blueshirts talking of running with the old fashioned "red scare" tactic that FF/SF will be the most
left wing Government ever.....
FF probably will find their roots again and promise a load of house building plans etc while trying to airbrush their 4 years of support for FG, plus their Bertie/McCreevy neo liberal era.
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« Reply #5687 on: December 17, 2019, 01:15:32 PM »

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« Reply #5688 on: December 17, 2019, 01:27:17 PM »

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« Reply #5689 on: December 17, 2019, 01:40:26 PM »
Reports this morning suggest that no matter what Leo and Mícheál might be saying in public that the GE in the 26 will be in February.
Some in the Blueshirts talking of running with the old fashioned "red scare" tactic that FF/SF will be the most
left wing Government ever.....
FF probably will find their roots again and promise a load of house building plans etc while trying to airbrush their 4 years of support for FG, plus their Bertie/McCreevy neo liberal era.

Dont forget the Greens, likely to make some gains. It will come down to one of FG and FF with one of SF and Greens.

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« Reply #5690 on: December 17, 2019, 02:24:05 PM »
FF seem happy enough with the current arrangement. Can’t see either of the main parties wanting to go into a coalition with SF.
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« Reply #5691 on: December 17, 2019, 03:18:29 PM »
If the Shinners under their present non leader repeat their Local and Euro election showing there'll be no need for them to worry about Coalition.
Greens will do well I suspect especially with young city and town folks.
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« Reply #5692 on: December 17, 2019, 03:20:21 PM »
I'd say the leadership has one more election in them North and South.

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« Reply #5693 on: December 17, 2019, 03:23:43 PM »
Maryloo always reminds me of the type that becomes Chair of some local "action group" set up to oppose something.
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« Reply #5694 on: December 17, 2019, 03:27:44 PM »
Pearse Doherty must be the next leader imo streets ahead of Dublin Mary.

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« Reply #5695 on: December 17, 2019, 03:34:37 PM »
Maryloo always reminds me of the type that becomes Chair of some local "action group" set up to oppose something.

A career politician.

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« Reply #5696 on: December 17, 2019, 03:45:24 PM »

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« Reply #5697 on: December 17, 2019, 03:54:03 PM »
Without trying to defend SF/DUP, it’s not just their fault. Pre-recession, there was always lengthy waiting lists. Stormont is handed loose change from London and told to sort out the north. They never got enough money or never will.

WHAT?!?! That is utter balls man!

Per head, the amount of money this place gets is monsterous.

Its mostly pissed away by decisions or non-decisions in Stormont. So no getting away from it - its all on SF & DUP.

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In 2018/19, public spending per person in the UK as a whole was £9,584.
In England, it was £9,296 (3% below the UK average). This compares with:
• Scotland: £11,247 (17% above the UK average)
• Wales: £10,656 (11% above the UK average)
• Northern Ireland £11,590 (21% above the UK average).

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04033/SN04033.pdf
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« Reply #5698 on: December 17, 2019, 04:17:21 PM »
FF seem happy enough with the current arrangement. Can’t see either of the main parties wanting to go into a coalition with SF.

Ah now, you are not that naive are you. The slippy FF gangsters were staying away from Brexit while at the same time holding the minority government to ransom. They'd sell their mothers to be in power and will jump into bed with just about anyone to do it.

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« Reply #5699 on: December 17, 2019, 04:20:08 PM »
Without trying to defend SF/DUP, it’s not just their fault. Pre-recession, there was always lengthy waiting lists. Stormont is handed loose change from London and told to sort out the north. They never got enough money or never will.

WHAT?!?! That is utter balls man!

Per head, the amount of money this place gets is monsterous.

Its mostly pissed away by decisions or non-decisions in Stormont. So no getting away from it - its all on SF & DUP.

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In 2018/19, public spending per person in the UK as a whole was £9,584.
In England, it was £9,296 (3% below the UK average). This compares with:
• Scotland: £11,247 (17% above the UK average)
• Wales: £10,656 (11% above the UK average)
• Northern Ireland £11,590 (21% above the UK average).

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04033/SN04033.pdf

Whilst you're not wrong on the obligations of SF and the DUP in how money is spent here I think it would be remiss not to bring the cosy cartel at the top of the various Civil Service branches under scrutiny.

Take health for instance, far too many different trusts and the top heavy overheads there.