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Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« Reply #5535 on: August 06, 2019, 01:25:30 PM »
Anderson is to Unionism what Foster is to nationalism. A gift. She fulfils all the stereotypes that paranoid unionists have of the nationalist/republican population. Whilst I do think that there is a certain amount of faux outrage when these incidents occur, an elected representative should really know better than to rabble rouse in this manner.

Agree.

Both are actually doing more harm than good to their respective causes.

Once the EU seat goes Martina should be quietly pensioned off.

What would it take to get rid of Michelle though. Was she not anointed by wee Martin?

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« Reply #5536 on: August 06, 2019, 01:44:21 PM »
Anderson is to Unionism what Foster is to nationalism. A gift. She fulfils all the stereotypes that paranoid unionists have of the nationalist/republican population. Whilst I do think that there is a certain amount of faux outrage when these incidents occur, an elected representative should really know better than to rabble rouse in this manner.

Agree.

Both are actually doing more harm than good to their respective causes.

Once the EU seat goes Martina should be quietly pensioned off.

What would it take to get rid of Michelle though. Was she not anointed by wee Martin?

She a waste of space, she was probably chosen because she was female, there can be no other reason - one of the most useless voices in politics.

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« Reply #5537 on: August 06, 2019, 01:51:48 PM »
Anderson is to Unionism what Foster is to nationalism. A gift. She fulfils all the stereotypes that paranoid unionists have of the nationalist/republican population. Whilst I do think that there is a certain amount of faux outrage when these incidents occur, an elected representative should really know better than to rabble rouse in this manner.

Agree.

Both are actually doing more harm than good to their respective causes.

Once the EU seat goes Martina should be quietly pensioned off.

What would it take to get rid of Michelle though. Was she not anointed by wee Martin?

She a waste of space, she was probably chosen because she was female, there can be no other reason - one of the most useless voices in politics.

By all accounts she's a very good and hard working politician behind the scenes but she can't handle the leadership role her voice and communication are not at the level they should be for such a position she doesn't come across well on radio or tv unfortunately!!

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« Reply #5538 on: August 06, 2019, 02:09:25 PM »
It's abit like Trump rabble rousing his so called base, same here, and and we know our opinion on trumps base of supporters.

But what does it say about people who vote SF after their antics?
That there unfortunately is no credible alternative if you want a UI. The SDLP have no one of note or intellect. SF do have saner voices such as O'Dowd, Murphy and Brady. Unfortunately this anti British clown grabs the headlines. Mary Lou is a disappointment as President and Michelle O'Neill is useless.

SF will never deliver a UI and never is a long time. They haven't the ability or skill to persuade those who need persuaded.

They've got us close anyway

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« Reply #5539 on: August 06, 2019, 02:17:28 PM »
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« Reply #5540 on: August 06, 2019, 03:46:05 PM »
Anderson is to Unionism what Foster is to nationalism. A gift. She fulfils all the stereotypes that paranoid unionists have of the nationalist/republican population. Whilst I do think that there is a certain amount of faux outrage when these incidents occur, an elected representative should really know better than to rabble rouse in this manner.

Agree.

Both are actually doing more harm than good to their respective causes.

Once the EU seat goes Martina should be quietly pensioned off.

What would it take to get rid of Michelle though. Was she not anointed by wee Martin?

She a waste of space, she was probably chosen because she was female, there can be no other reason - one of the most useless voices in politics.

By all accounts she's a very good and hard working politician behind the scenes but she can't handle the leadership role her voice and communication are not at the level they should be for such a position she doesn't come across well on radio or tv unfortunately!!

Maybe Stephen Rea needs hauled in again to do a voiceover  :D

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« Reply #5541 on: August 06, 2019, 04:04:24 PM »
Anderson is to Unionism what Foster is to nationalism. A gift. She fulfils all the stereotypes that paranoid unionists have of the nationalist/republican population. Whilst I do think that there is a certain amount of faux outrage when these incidents occur, an elected representative should really know better than to rabble rouse in this manner.

Agree.

Both are actually doing more harm than good to their respective causes.

Once the EU seat goes Martina should be quietly pensioned off.

What would it take to get rid of Michelle though. Was she not anointed by wee Martin?

She a waste of space, she was probably chosen because she was female, there can be no other reason - one of the most useless voices in politics.

By all accounts she's a very good and hard working politician behind the scenes but she can't handle the leadership role her voice and communication are not at the level they should be for such a position she doesn't come across well on radio or tv u
nfortunately!!
Voters outside her constituency can only judge her on her radio and tv appearances which aren't good. If you need to haul out O'Dowd and Murphy at crucial times then perhaps that's were the leadership should go.

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« Reply #5542 on: August 06, 2019, 05:04:54 PM »
It's abit like Trump rabble rousing his so called base, same here, and and we know our opinion on trumps base of supporters.

But what does it say about people who vote SF after their antics?
That there unfortunately is no credible alternative if you want a UI. The SDLP have no one of note or intellect. SF do have saner voices such as O'Dowd, Murphy and Brady. Unfortunately this anti British clown grabs the headlines. Mary Lou is a disappointment as President and Michelle O'Neill is useless.

SF will never deliver a UI and never is a long time. They haven't the ability or skill to persuade those who need persuaded.

They've got us close anyway

So whatís your plan?
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« Reply #5543 on: August 06, 2019, 06:48:24 PM »
It's abit like Trump rabble rousing his so called base, same here, and and we know our opinion on trumps base of supporters.

But what does it say about people who vote SF after their antics?
That there unfortunately is no credible alternative if you want a UI. The SDLP have no one of note or intellect. SF do have saner voices such as O'Dowd, Murphy and Brady. Unfortunately this anti British clown grabs the headlines. Mary Lou is a disappointment as President and Michelle O'Neill is useless.

SF will never deliver a UI and never is a long time. They haven't the ability or skill to persuade those who need persuaded.

I donít think anybody will ever persuade those who need to be persuaded

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« Reply #5544 on: August 06, 2019, 06:57:14 PM »
It's abit like Trump rabble rousing his so called base, same here, and and we know our opinion on trumps base of supporters.

But what does it say about people who vote SF after their antics?
That there unfortunately is no credible alternative if you want a UI. The SDLP have no one of note or intellect. SF do have saner voices such as O'Dowd, Murphy and Brady. Unfortunately this anti British clown grabs the headlines. Mary Lou is a disappointment as President and Michelle O'Neill is useless.

SF will never deliver a UI and never is a long time. They haven't the ability or skill to persuade those who need persuaded.

I donít think anybody will ever persuade those who need to be persuaded

The people who need to be persuaded are the 20% or so in the middle, hard unionists and loyalists will never vote for it but demographics are changing and Brexit has opened up an economic debate that is only really beginning. I do think for the border poll to happen it would need to be predicated by Scottish independence and an intensive open debate on the costs/benefits of reunification. It would also need to be driven by civic nationalism and the Irish political parties in order to give it the best possible chance of success.

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« Reply #5545 on: August 06, 2019, 09:59:43 PM »
It's abit like Trump rabble rousing his so called base, same here, and and we know our opinion on trumps base of supporters.

But what does it say about people who vote SF after their antics?
That there unfortunately is no credible alternative if you want a UI. The SDLP have no one of note or intellect. SF do have saner voices such as O'Dowd, Murphy and Brady. Unfortunately this anti British clown grabs the headlines. Mary Lou is a disappointment as President and Michelle O'Neill is useless.

SF will never deliver a UI and never is a long time. They haven't the ability or skill to persuade those who need persuaded.

I donít think anybody will ever persuade those who need to be persuaded

The people who need to be persuaded are the 20% or so in the middle, hard unionists and loyalists will never vote for it but demographics are changing and Brexit has opened up an economic debate that is only really beginning. I do think for the border poll to happen it would need to be predicated by Scottish independence and an intensive open debate on the costs/benefits of reunification. It would also need to be driven by civic nationalism and the Irish political parties in order to give it the best possible chance of success.

Who else is driving it at the minute? The Tories and British Labour Party?

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« Reply #5546 on: August 06, 2019, 10:33:48 PM »
It's abit like Trump rabble rousing his so called base, same here, and and we know our opinion on trumps base of supporters.

But what does it say about people who vote SF after their antics?
That there unfortunately is no credible alternative if you want a UI. The SDLP have no one of note or intellect. SF do have saner voices such as O'Dowd, Murphy and Brady. Unfortunately this anti British clown grabs the headlines. Mary Lou is a disappointment as President and Michelle O'Neill is useless.

SF will never deliver a UI and never is a long time. They haven't the ability or skill to persuade those who need persuaded.

I donít think anybody will ever persuade those who need to be persuaded

The people who need to be persuaded are the 20% or so in the middle, hard unionists and loyalists will never vote for it but demographics are changing and Brexit has opened up an economic debate that is only really beginning. I do think for the border poll to happen it would need to be predicated by Scottish independence and an intensive open debate on the costs/benefits of reunification. It would also need to be driven by civic nationalism and the Irish political parties in order to give it the best possible chance of success.

Who else is driving it at the minute? The Tories and British Labour Party?

It has not been seriously discussed by any of the Irish political parties to date certainly at least in
public although I have seen some documents in terms of the economics from Mark Daly, ESRI However I do believe that preparations need to begin to prepare for the eventuality.

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« Reply #5547 on: August 31, 2019, 11:46:34 AM »
Are things not going so well in SF land? Leadership elections now? My, my. Whatever next?

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« Reply #5548 on: August 31, 2019, 12:57:28 PM »
Hopefully for their sake they soon get rid of the useless Marylou as well.
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« Reply #5549 on: August 31, 2019, 05:26:44 PM »
Are things not going so well in SF land? Leadership elections now? My, my. Whatever next?

Unbelievable that Sf has suddenly become a democratic party when all leadership has previously been more like USSR with appointees "elected" by the membership.

Replacing O'Neill makes sense if Foster also goes to allow Sir Jeffrey to take over.