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« Reply #4410 on: January 07, 2018, 12:56:11 PM »
It doesn't look good and you can understand the anger the Kingsmill families will feel but the opportunistic way the usual elements have jumped on the offended bus is nauseating.

Only McElduff will know whether it was an accident or not. If he's sincere in his apologies and the families can accept that then a line should be drawn under it.

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« Reply #4411 on: January 07, 2018, 01:06:40 PM »
Shinner bashers having a field day!

Thatís how it works in politics, if he wasnít a moron there would be no field day

You can't blame them.

SF making it easy
It was at best utterly stupid but whether it was deliberate or not is questionable. The criticism coming from Unionism is a bit rich and outrage from stoops laughable.

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« Reply #4412 on: January 07, 2018, 01:16:32 PM »
Shinner bashers having a field day!

Thatís how it works in politics, if he wasnít a moron there would be no field day

You can't blame them.

SF making it easy
It was at best utterly stupid but whether it was deliberate or not is questionable. The criticism coming from Unionism is a bit rich and outrage from stoops laughable.

Don't buy that line at all.

Only the wee fella himself knows if was deliberate. So its easy to argue that it is questionable. But once you look at the issue of probability then your argument becomes wafer thin. The chances of his actions not being deliberate are fantastically remote.

Criticism of his actions is very understandable. An argument that you cannot or should not criticise him because you are either a unionist or a SDLP member/voter has no basis in logic

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« Reply #4413 on: January 07, 2018, 01:20:03 PM »
It's the slack news time of the year. If Barry posts something that most people would deem to be spectacularly stupid, then political opponents, of all shades, will milk it, for all it's worth.

It's always interesting that, when there's always a lot of talk about the Kingsmills incident, it's often overlooked that 5 Catholics were butchered the night before & another died later. The DUP, in particular, sought to seriously damage the reputation of one of those families.

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« Reply #4414 on: January 07, 2018, 01:30:08 PM »
Shinner bashers having a field day!

Thatís how it works in politics, if he wasnít a moron there would be no field day

You can't blame them.

SF making it easy
It was at best utterly stupid but whether it was deliberate or not is questionable. The criticism coming from Unionism is a bit rich and outrage from stoops laughable.

Don't buy that line at all.

Only the wee fella himself knows if was deliberate. So its easy to argue that it is questionable. But once you look at the issue of probability then your argument becomes wafer thin. The chances of his actions not being deliberate are fantastically remote.

Criticism of his actions is very understandable. An argument that you cannot or should not criticise him because you are either a unionist or a SDLP member/voter has no basis in logic
I saw the video within minutes of it being posted on his social media. It wasnít until yesterday morning that I had learned that it had coincided with the anniversary of the Kingsmill massacre. I find it hard to comprehend that someone could be so unbelievably stupid to knowingly post something like that given its significance. The vast majority of republicans are ashamed of Kingsmills, so why  someone would want to deliberately mock it in such a ďblatantĒ manner is hard to understand. Even more so when theyíre a SF elected rep.

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« Reply #4415 on: January 07, 2018, 01:30:49 PM »
McElduff can actually give his party the high moral ground here by resigning which would be a big statement that they are serious about respect across the board and show that there is a bit of decency. Considering his apology and subsequent offer to meet the families, I don't believe it was a deliberately malicious act but it was an idiotic thing to do and he would be best doing the right thing for his party and for nationalists/republican's in general and that mean's stepping down.

It would negate any accusations of hypocrisy when SF call on Foster et al to resign. Frampton should stick to the boxing instead of weighing into this debate.

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« Reply #4416 on: January 07, 2018, 02:11:06 PM »
Unconfimed reports that Mc Elduff has resigned and will become a Hovis Witness!😂😂

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« Reply #4417 on: January 07, 2018, 02:15:45 PM »
Unconfimed reports that Mc Elduff has resigned and will become a Hovis Witness!😂😂

His video was funnier

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« Reply #4418 on: January 07, 2018, 03:59:21 PM »
The absolute hack of some of the lads on here like. Yeah, it's non-Shinners who are the ones to be laughed at here. f**king state of you all.
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« Reply #4419 on: January 07, 2018, 04:23:08 PM »
McElduff can actually give his party the high moral ground here by resigning which would be a big statement that they are serious about respect across the board and show that there is a bit of decency. Considering his apology and subsequent offer to meet the families, I don't believe it was a deliberately malicious act but it was an idiotic thing to do and he would be best doing the right thing for his party and for nationalists/republican's in general and that mean's stepping down.

It would negate any accusations of hypocrisy when SF call on Foster et al to resign. Frampton should stick to the boxing instead of weighing into this debate.

So Frampton isnít allowed an opinion on anything other than boxing? Always have to laugh at people saying this that sportsmen should stick to their sport whilst at the same time offering an opinion on said situation.

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« Reply #4420 on: January 07, 2018, 04:28:40 PM »
The absolute hack of some of the lads on here like. Yeah, it's non-Shinners who are the ones to be laughed at here. f**king state of you all.
Would you have known, off the top of your head, prior to Friday, the date of the Kingsmill massacre?

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« Reply #4421 on: January 07, 2018, 04:33:06 PM »
McElduff can actually give his party the high moral ground here by resigning which would be a big statement that they are serious about respect across the board and show that there is a bit of decency. Considering his apology and subsequent offer to meet the families, I don't believe it was a deliberately malicious act but it was an idiotic thing to do and he would be best doing the right thing for his party and for nationalists/republican's in general and that mean's stepping down.

It would negate any accusations of hypocrisy when SF call on Foster et al to resign. Frampton should stick to the boxing instead of weighing into this debate.

Agree re the opportunity for SF to adopt the high moral ground.

Can't agree that Frampton has any lesser right than any of the rest of us to comment

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« Reply #4422 on: January 07, 2018, 04:37:42 PM »
McElduff can actually give his party the high moral ground here by resigning which would be a big statement that they are serious about respect across the board and show that there is a bit of decency. Considering his apology and subsequent offer to meet the families, I don't believe it was a deliberately malicious act but it was an idiotic thing to do and he would be best doing the right thing for his party and for nationalists/republican's in general and that mean's stepping down.

It would negate any accusations of hypocrisy when SF call on Foster et al to resign. Frampton should stick to the boxing instead of weighing into this debate.

So Frampton isnít allowed an opinion on anything other than boxing? Always have to laugh at people saying this that sportsmen should stick to their sport whilst at the same time offering an opinion on said situation.

Not specifically aimed at yellowcard but there also more broadly an issue of thinking that sport stars should only speak on political issues if they happen to agree with your own political stance

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« Reply #4423 on: January 07, 2018, 04:58:02 PM »
The absolute hack of some of the lads on here like. Yeah, it's non-Shinners who are the ones to be laughed at here. f**king state of you all.
Would you have known, off the top of your head, prior to Friday, the date of the Kingsmill massacre?
No, but it would appear that Barry McElduff did.  The odds do not stack up well in his favour.

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« Reply #4424 on: January 07, 2018, 05:09:12 PM »
Shinner bashers having a field day!
Sorry. We didn't realise that Sinn Fein are entitled to be exempted from criticism. When you have
gobshites like this gent it's a bit much to expect his stupidity not to be subject of comment
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