Mickey Harte Proposal for Restructure

Started by catchandkick, December 01, 2009, 06:09:31 PM

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catchandkick

Read this in one of his columns :

The four provincial champions would play off in a traditional semi-final style with the two winners qualifying for the semi-finals proper and the two losers having the chance to be drawn against the two best Qualifiers. This one departure ticks all the necessary boxes insofar as it affords the winners a place in the semi-finals where their provincial titles would have traditionally taken them, and allows the two other champions that precious second chance. At the same time, this adds a much higher degree of difficulty to delivering the ultimate success through the back door and would undoubtedly heighten the intensity in the provincial series.




Interesting, but lets say the four provincial winners for arguments sake were: Kerry, Dublin, Galway, Tyrone

and semi finals were

Kerry v Galway
Dublin v Tyrone

and Kerry and Tyrone won through,

then you would have

Dublin v Qualifier 1
Galway v Qualifier 2

And if Dublin and Galway managed to beat them, would you simply repeat the semi-finals, about 3 weeks after the first semi-finals?

It's along the right lines though, in terms of giving provincial winners a second chance and probably reducing the gap between the provincial final and the next game.



boojangles

While I agree with Provincial winners getting a second chance-Where would the extra fixtures fit into an already condensed fixture list?

Rossfan

A totally illogical proposal.
What about the teams that win those "prelim semi finals" and lose the "second stage semi final" ?
They dont get a second chance nor does a team who win their two "semi finals" and then lose the final.
If every team is to get this infamous second chance the final All Ireland Final might eventually get played around this time of year.
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Rossfan

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We're going to bring home the SAM

Fear ón Srath Bán

The Dublin County Board unanimously row in behind MH's proposal, from today's Irish Times:

Dublin pass motion for losing quarter-finalists

A DUBLIN motion aimed at securing a second chance for provincial champions if they lose at the All-Ireland SFC quarter-final stage has been passed at the county's annual convention. Delegates voted unanimously in favour of the St Olaf's proposal at Dublin GAA's annual think-tank on Monday evening.

Dublin county board chairman Gerry Harrington intends to bring the motion to congress in Newcastle, Co Down, next April, subject to approval from the GAA's motions committee.

The Dublin motion would see the four provincial winners playing off against each other in two quarter-finals, with the winners advancing to the last four of the championship. The two losers would then battle it out with two teams from the All-Ireland qualifiers in the two remaining quarter-finals for the remaining two semi-final spots on offer.

The idea from the capital would effectively add another round of qualifiers, with the original number of teams advancing through the back door cut from four to two.

Under present structures, provincial winners exit the championship immediately if they are knocked out at the All-Ireland quarter-final stage. This new system would give them a second chance as they are deemed vulnerable due to the time lapse between provincial finals and the All-Ireland series.

Leinster champions Dublin and Connacht champions Mayo both succumbed at the last-eight stage in 2009, while Ulster winners Tyrone struggled past a battle-hardened Kildare. Cork were the only provincial winners to comfortably win their quarter-final as they crushed a Donegal team running on empty following their hectic qualifier run. The Dublin motion hopes to clear up these discrepancies within the current structures.

Although the two provincial winners who advance to the semi-finals still face a possible championship exit after just one defeat, they will have benefited from a tough match against one of their fellow provincial kingpins.

Harrington, who has been elected unopposed for another term, insisted: "Something has to be done. You have counties free between winning their provincial championships before coming out and playing against a qualifier team. You could have a gap of four weeks, whereas the qualifier teams are playing right through that period. The St Olaf's club felt there needs to be some tidying up and this motion has been passed unanimously and we will now be bringing it to congres
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