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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
« Reply #690 on: June 07, 2011, 09:28:20 PM »
Italy haven't beaten us in over 20 years now. I remember they beat us 2-0 in a tournament in the US in 1993 I think. Packie Bonner git sent off, it was 2-0 to Italy. In a subsequent match against Portugal Steve Staunton scored direct from a corner in a 2-0 win. That is all from memory.

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« Reply #691 on: June 07, 2011, 09:35:29 PM »
they wont do it tonight either - 2-0 now. Cox goal.

Would be great to qualify for a major tournament again
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« Reply #692 on: June 07, 2011, 09:47:19 PM »
That is a big win for the repubalik. Italy are four time world champs and it is always nice to beat them. They don't get beaten by 2 goals very often.

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« Reply #693 on: June 07, 2011, 10:34:34 PM »
brilliant win tonight and it looks at last that we have some serious competition for places. hopefully we can keep it going and qualify for the euros.
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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
« Reply #694 on: June 07, 2011, 10:59:36 PM »
If you want to see it, its on TG4 at the moment.

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« Reply #695 on: June 08, 2011, 02:01:00 AM »
Italy haven't beaten us in over 20 years now. I remember they beat us 2-0 in a tournament in the US in 1993 I think. Packie Bonner git sent off, it was 2-0 to Italy. In a subsequent match against Portugal Steve Staunton scored direct from a corner in a 2-0 win. That is all from memory.

I'd Imogen it is alright.  ;)

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« Reply #696 on: June 08, 2011, 09:10:43 AM »
For all our faults, it would appear that we are hard to play against and hard to beat, and it looks with each game that it is getting harder to do both/either.  So, isn't that the manager's job done?
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« Reply #697 on: June 08, 2011, 10:39:59 AM »
Paul McShane seemed to have a good game.  Only one howler that I can remember.
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« Reply #698 on: June 08, 2011, 12:12:07 PM »
That was a superb win tonight. Anyone pondering quality at this moment should be hanged for treason. Well done Ireland, and special mention for the greatest attacking player this country has ever produced. I doubt anyone on this forum will live long enough to see his goalscoring record eclipsed.

Lots of balance and perspective there.  ::)

Take Robbie Keane and Shay Given out of that team and it is a poor team. Dunne is huge loss fair enough but our problem is two central midfielders who cannot string successive passes together. They are hackers. Add in two weak full backs, if Dunne is missing - no centre backs and you have a poor team.
while not Argentina or Barcelona, I cannot agree with that Muppet.

Given superb, Keane while infuriating for missing the simple chances can score and create.
Dunne now a great player but was once a liability. None of them are irreplaceable.
O'Shea was a superb centre back when young but man u ruined him for that by using him as a utility player. Can do a job for Ireland again. Unlike many, I like the raw O'Dea. St Ledget, Clarke and a whose of others to play at either full back position mean Ireland have a good amount of talent to draw from.
Same for the midfield and even now with new found strikers like Best, Walters and Cox to go along with Long and Doyle

the yonger players now depend on Trap to give them their chance. Mickey Harte like , Trap is not bringing on a few more when he should -though last nights game v Italy changed that a bit, by default I suspect rather than design !

I really think that ths is the best squad Ireland have had since 2002. Plenty of teams have proven that you dont need every player to be outstanding in order to do reasonably well.
even If we dont qualify for the euro 2012, i'd be very hopeful to qualify for the 2014 world cup !
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« Reply #699 on: June 08, 2011, 12:20:09 PM »
Don't like getting carried away either but there does seem to be cover in most positions now which is a good sign.  Coleman & Ward looked great and could push to start in the Autumn if they keep it up.  I just love Tardelli's enthusiasm, he is a great asset to the group.

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« Reply #700 on: June 08, 2011, 02:00:46 PM »
That was a superb win tonight. Anyone pondering quality at this moment should be hanged for treason. Well done Ireland, and special mention for the greatest attacking player this country has ever produced. I doubt anyone on this forum will live long enough to see his goalscoring record eclipsed.

Lots of balance and perspective there.  ::)

Take Robbie Keane and Shay Given out of that team and it is a poor team. Dunne is huge loss fair enough but our problem is two central midfielders who cannot string successive passes together. They are hackers. Add in two weak full backs, if Dunne is missing - no centre backs and you have a poor team.
while not Argentina or Barcelona, I cannot agree with that Muppet.

Given superb, Keane while infuriating for missing the simple chances can score and create.
Dunne now a great player but was once a liability. None of them are irreplaceable.
O'Shea was a superb centre back when young but man u ruined him for that by using him as a utility player. Can do a job for Ireland again. Unlike many, I like the raw O'Dea. St Ledget, Clarke and a whose of others to play at either full back position mean Ireland have a good amount of talent to draw from.
Same for the midfield and even now with new found strikers like Best, Walters and Cox to go along with Long and Doyle

the yonger players now depend on Trap to give them their chance. Mickey Harte like , Trap is not bringing on a few more when he should -though last nights game v Italy changed that a bit, by default I suspect rather than design !

I really think that ths is the best squad Ireland have had since 2002. Plenty of teams have proven that you dont need every player to be outstanding in order to do reasonably well.
even If we dont qualify for the euro 2012, i'd be very hopeful to qualify for the 2014 world cup !

Hang on I'm not predicting the end of football. I'm was just criticising in particular that we have two central midfielders (Gibson appears to be next choice) who can't ever seem to get into a rhythm of stringing passes together and we are short two full backs and one good central defender. Richard Dunne can make up for some of the defensive problems and we may unearth some new talent so things can always improve quickly.

I'm still hopeful for James McCarthy who I think will be a star but I'm not going to go Ole, Ole, Ole after beating Macedonia who are 85th in the FIFA rankings.

But I still believe we are overachieving, even at the moment, due to the manager. As an aside how many goals are we scoring from clever moves at free kicks? I don't recall doing this since Brady used to hit someone running to the near post. Again down to the management I'd say.
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« Reply #701 on: June 08, 2011, 02:14:04 PM »
For all our faults, it would appear that we are hard to play against and hard to beat, and it looks with each game that it is getting harder to do both/either.  So, isn't that the manager's job done?

Kinda like many of the teams the Big Jack built, the sum being greater than the parts!

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« Reply #702 on: June 08, 2011, 02:18:43 PM »
For all our faults, it would appear that we are hard to play against and hard to beat, and it looks with each game that it is getting harder to do both/either.  So, isn't that the manager's job done?

Kinda like many of the teams the Big Jack built, the sum being greater than the parts!

Olé, olé, olé, olé, ooooolé, oooolé :P

Irwin, O'Leary, Moran, Lawrenson, Brady, Whelan, McGrath, Stapleton, Aldridge, Houghton, Sheedy, Townsend, Keane etc.

Imagine what Trapp would have made out of that lot.
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« Reply #703 on: June 08, 2011, 02:22:52 PM »
For all our faults, it would appear that we are hard to play against and hard to beat, and it looks with each game that it is getting harder to do both/either.  So, isn't that the manager's job done?

Kinda like many of the teams the Big Jack built, the sum being greater than the parts!

Olé, olé, olé, olé, ooooolé, oooolé :P

Irwin, O'Leary, Moran, Lawrenson, Brady, Whelan, McGrath, Stapleton, Aldridge, Houghton, Sheedy, Townsend, Keane etc.

Imagine what Trapp would have made out of that lot.

Well, it might not be a whole lot different to what we're seeing at the moment - Charlton didn't have (or show) the confidence in their ability to play the ball through midfield, so why would Trappatoni be any different?
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« Reply #704 on: June 08, 2011, 02:26:06 PM »
For all our faults, it would appear that we are hard to play against and hard to beat, and it looks with each game that it is getting harder to do both/either.  So, isn't that the manager's job done?

Kinda like many of the teams the Big Jack built, the sum being greater than the parts!

Olé, olé, olé, olé, ooooolé, oooolé :P

Irwin, O'Leary, Moran, Lawrenson, Brady, Whelan, McGrath, Stapleton, Aldridge, Houghton, Sheedy, Townsend, Keane etc.

Imagine what Trapp would have made out of that lot.

Well, it might not be a whole lot different to what we're seeing at the moment - Charlton didn't have (or show) the confidence in their ability to play the ball through midfield, so why would Trappatoni be any different?

Trapp played Brady for Juventus and wasn't happy when the owners bought Platini and Boniek (only two foreigners allowed at the time).

Jack retired Brady, put McGrath midfield (Lawrenson before that) and picked Mick McCarthy.
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