No EU presidency for Blair

[milltown row]

If I recall it was a fella I used to work with. The peelers thought they were smuggling drugs or something. Which they weren't. He was from Andytown.

Andytown parish? ah sure they are a bunch of headers. us milltown Parish ones wouldn't know anyone from there.

[ziggysego]

I spent a week in Belgium. It was cat.

Me too. I'd a good time, but the Flemish people are nutters. Didn't like them at all.

[Rossfan]

Do you still think Tony Blair is a war criminal? Do you still stand over that?

Yes. He took a leading part in the invasion of a sovereign country in conjunction with Bush leading to the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians plus and ongoing civil war.
All on the pretence that there were "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq.
Surely most Countries in the world have weapons capable of mass destruction with US,Russia,Kazakhstan,France,GB,Israel,China,India and Pakistan having more destructive weapons than the rest.
Bush,Cheney, a few other Bush assistants ,Blair, the then Spanish Premier and that total crook Beresconi should be before the Court in the  Hague.

[IolarCoisCuain]

Do you still think Tony Blair is a war criminal? Do you still stand over that?

Yes. He took a leading part in the invasion of a sovereign country in conjunction with Bush leading to the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians plus and ongoing civil war.
All on the pretence that there were "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq.
Surely most Countries in the world have weapons capable of mass destruction with US,Russia,Kazakhstan,France,GB,Israel,China,India and Pakistan having more destructive weapons than the rest.
Bush,Cheney, a few other Bush assistants ,Blair, the then Spanish Premier and that total crook Beresconi should be before the Court in the  Hague.

I'm sorry Rossfan. I can be terribly slow sometimes. Which sovereign country are you talking about? You mentioned Afghanistan in your original remark. Is that the sovereign country you mean? Or is it Iraq?

What I find odd about Irish criticism of Blair is that he did more than than British Prime Minister in ninety years to recognise the sovereignty of our country. While I understand your distress at the suffering of the great nation of Afghanistan, would you not give him a score draw, at least? Or are you still insisting on calling the polis?

[muppet]

I spent a week in Belgium. It was cat.

That was Tuam.

[Hardy]

I spent a week in Belgium. It was cat.

That was Tuam.

No - that's cat melodeon.

[Rossfan]

[? You mentioned Afghanistan in your original remark. Is that the sovereign country you mean? Or is it Iraq?

, would you not give him a score draw, at least? Or are you still insisting on calling the polis?

Iraq was teetotally illegal while Afghanistan was dressed up with a UN mandate of some sort.
The reasons for invading Afghanistan were to overthrow a "backward,extreme islamist Govt" which denied human rights to women, non Muslims  and believed in barbaric punishments etc.
Mind you Saudi Arabia fulfils the same criteria but no action against them.
I wonder why  ... never anything to do with oil or being on "our side" 
And yes I would call the Polis for Blair. His work in Ireland could perhaps be used in his favour at the sentencing hearing.

[Farrandeelin]

mayogodhelpus. I can see where you're coming from, but I live in a sovereign country and don't need another (outside) leader. And this fellow van Rompuy wants another tax I believe!

[muppet]

mayogodhelpus. I can see where you're coming from, but I live in a sovereign country and don't need another (outside) leader. And this fellow van Rompuy wants another tax I believe!

Especially one you can't vote for or against.

[IolarCoisCuain]

[? You mentioned Afghanistan in your original remark. Is that the sovereign country you mean? Or is it Iraq?

, would you not give him a score draw, at least? Or are you still insisting on calling the polis?

Iraq was teetotally illegal while Afghanistan was dressed up with a UN mandate of some sort.
The reasons for invading Afghanistan were to overthrow a "backward,extreme islamist Govt" which denied human rights to women, non Muslims  and believed in barbaric punishments etc.
Mind you Saudi Arabia fulfils the same criteria but no action against them.
I wonder why  ... never anything to do with oil or being on "our side" 
And yes I would call the Polis for Blair. His work in Ireland could perhaps be used in his favour at the sentencing hearing.

The UN mandate for the invasion of Afghanistan was not of some sort. It was of this sort: the Taliban government supported Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda were responsible for the attacks on the Twin Towers in New York. Therefore, the Taliban had to go. What was criminal about that?

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

mayogodhelpus. I can see where you're coming from, but I live in a sovereign country and don't need another (outside) leader. And this fellow van Rompuy wants another tax I believe!

Perhaps some of us feal more European than others, personaly I would be a fan of a grand European Confederation. My major problem with a directly elected President when we are not fully engaged in a Confederation project is that the Irish vote would be drowned out even more. However if we where fully engaged then people would vote on the candidate not the country of origin.

I would be more interested in knowing when American troops will no longer be stationed in Europe. Really pisses me off seeing them in Frankfurt airport. This is Europe, not one big American deployment base.

[heganboy]

I have an Irish passport so I already have a president and she does the job plenty well enough for me.

No harm Us Europeans having a president, I'd rather be represented by a fellow European than someone in Washington claiming to be the leader of the Free World. I live in the Free World and no Yank is my leader.

are you sure you read it right, summarised above if there was any confusion

your sentiment is interesting (as is the grammar) and I know many young europeans share your views. The confederation approach is not new, but I'd like to hear your views on how that would be implemented. As for the Americans in Frankfurt, personally I'm not a fan either, but their are many that would argue that had the americans not been stationed in Germany, the old USSR would have attempted to increase the size of the socialist soviet republic...

[Rossfan]

The UN mandate for the invasion of Afghanistan was not of some sort. It was of this sort: the Taliban government supported Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda were responsible for the attacks on the Twin Towers in New York. Therefore, the Taliban had to go. What was criminal about that?

Pity then the UN wouldnt give a mandate to someone to invade GB/US/Spain and Italy to remove the  governments there who invaded Iraq without anyauthority only their own bullyboyness.
Also could we retrospectively get the UN to give e.g China a mandate to invate GB seeing as their Governemnt supported bombibg attacks on Dublin and Monaghan.
Seems the UN is living up to Dev's quotation about the moral code being based on certain Countries' interests.

[IolarCoisCuain]

The UN mandate for the invasion of Afghanistan was not of some sort. It was of this sort: the Taliban government supported Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda were responsible for the attacks on the Twin Towers in New York. Therefore, the Taliban had to go. What was criminal about that?

Pity then the UN wouldnt give a mandate to someone to invade GB/US/Spain and Italy to remove the  governments there who invaded Iraq without anyauthority only their own bullyboyness.
Also could we retrospectively get the UN to give e.g China a mandate to invate GB seeing as their Governemnt supported bombibg attacks on Dublin and Monaghan.
Seems the UN is living up to Dev's quotation about the moral code being based on certain Countries' interests.

Who in particular would you like to invade Britain, the United States, Spain and Italy Rossfan? I'm getting very confused now. They all seemed like ok places anytime I was there. Who would you like to take over those countries that you think would do a better job?

Not John Maughan, surely?

[Rossfan]

Ye still trying to pawn Maughtan off ?? 
You say the UN gave a mandate to invade Afghanistan because the Government there supported an attack on another Country( the US).
I ask why didnt the UN give someone a mandate to invade the 4 Countries mentioned seeing as they attacked Iraq  or why in 1974 the UN didnt give someone a mandate to invade the Brits for supporting an attack on the sovereign state that we live in?
Simple?
Sauce for goose and all that