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« Reply #38055 on: August 10, 2018, 11:00:27 AM »
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

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I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.

Feck aff NAG! Thats an interesting thought NAG about how you think of us at St Galls. Must remember that
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« Reply #38056 on: August 10, 2018, 11:22:55 AM »
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.

Feck aff NAG! Thats an interesting thought NAG about how you think of us at St Galls. Must remember that

Tell me I am wrong MR2, a club with talented hurlers for the past 10/15 years yet, unwilling or unable to put the effort in so happy to be where you are div 2 where you can be comfortable, nobody pushing you too hard in the comfort zone so to speak.

Should be more than capable of being competitive in div 1 with a bit of work.

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« Reply #38057 on: August 10, 2018, 12:02:24 PM »
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.

Feck aff NAG! Thats an interesting thought NAG about how you think of us at St Galls. Must remember that

Tell me I am wrong MR2, a club with talented hurlers for the past 10/15 years yet, unwilling or unable to put the effort in so happy to be where you are div 2 where you can be comfortable, nobody pushing you too hard in the comfort zone so to speak.

Should be more than capable of being competitive in div 1 with a bit of work.

You’re wrong, we are a dual club with a knack of winning football championships and that’s were a lot of our kids seem to favour.

 We don’t have the fortunate position of concentrating solely on hurling. Now if you’d have asked someone on this thread who knows something about St Galls hurling, you’d get a proper reply, Johnny jokingly put his post up.

 I was chatting to a senior player the other day and said ‘we are in danger of going up!’ But in all seriousness I asked are you going to give it another last as the vast majority are 33,34 years old! We’ve about 4 younger lads but outside of our best 15, we’d struggle. Be couple years before we bring anything to senior.

But the lads on the team are winners, there’s no danger that when they step over the line they are looking to lose, nor is Culbert who’s managing them would be looking for also
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« Reply #38058 on: August 10, 2018, 12:11:22 PM »
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.

Feck aff NAG! Thats an interesting thought NAG about how you think of us at St Galls. Must remember that

Tell me I am wrong MR2, a club with talented hurlers for the past 10/15 years yet, unwilling or unable to put the effort in so happy to be where you are div 2 where you can be comfortable, nobody pushing you too hard in the comfort zone so to speak.

Should be more than capable of being competitive in div 1 with a bit of work.

You’re wrong, we are a dual club with a knack of winning football championships and that’s were a lot of our kids seem to favour.

 We don’t have the fortunate position of concentrating solely on hurling. Now if you’d have asked someone on this thread who knows something about St Galls hurling, you’d get a proper reply, Johnny jokingly put his post up.

 I was chatting to a senior player the other day and said ‘we are in danger of going up!’ But in all seriousness I asked are you going to give it another last as the vast majority are 33,34 years old! We’ve about 4 younger lads but outside of our best 15, we’d struggle. Be couple years before we bring anything to senior.

But the lads on the team are winners, there’s no danger that when they step over the line they are looking to lose, nor is Culbert who’s managing them would be looking for also

I'd say st galls aren't alone with those thoughts in division 2. There are a few other teams that have no interest in going upto div 1 as they know themselves it would be foolish.

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« Reply #38059 on: August 10, 2018, 12:18:31 PM »
Is Div 2 two up and two down ?

Yes

I would prefer to see the leagues be one up and one down. It makes the whole thing too fluid from season to season. As long as there is no further tinkering to the leagues, one up and one down would work ok I think. Any thoughts?

I'd vote for that..  ;)

Seriously though there's not a whole pile wrong with 2 up two down as it gives a lot more to play for at the bottom of Div1 and the top of Div2 and so on and so forth.

Although I did hear of a St Galls player joking that they needed to lose a few games in case they got promoted!!

Pretty much sums them up.

Feck aff NAG! Thats an interesting thought NAG about how you think of us at St Galls. Must remember that

Tell me I am wrong MR2, a club with talented hurlers for the past 10/15 years yet, unwilling or unable to put the effort in so happy to be where you are div 2 where you can be comfortable, nobody pushing you too hard in the comfort zone so to speak.

Should be more than capable of being competitive in div 1 with a bit of work.

You’re wrong, we are a dual club with a knack of winning football championships and that’s were a lot of our kids seem to favour.

 We don’t have the fortunate position of concentrating solely on hurling. Now if you’d have asked someone on this thread who knows something about St Galls hurling, you’d get a proper reply, Johnny jokingly put his post up.

 I was chatting to a senior player the other day and said ‘we are in danger of going up!’ But in all seriousness I asked are you going to give it another last as the vast majority are 33,34 years old! We’ve about 4 younger lads but outside of our best 15, we’d struggle. Be couple years before we bring anything to senior.

But the lads on the team are winners, there’s no danger that when they step over the line they are looking to lose, nor is Culbert who’s managing them would be looking for also

My point wasnt solely down to Johnny's jokey comment, it is more of a malaise really and I agree with you on the age profile of the squad. My point is that the same type of attitude existed when these guys were in their mid-twenties.

I get the dual club aspect and I know there is a push back on there with the football, but point is still valid that maybe the eye went off the ball for a while in the development if only 4 younger lads are now on the squad.

It's a difficulty across the city unfortunately. Wasnt a lament aimed solely at St Galls.

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« Reply #38060 on: August 10, 2018, 12:38:59 PM »
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right
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« Reply #38061 on: August 10, 2018, 07:02:26 PM »
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

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« Reply #38062 on: August 10, 2018, 08:37:45 PM »
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

There was a team but that’s how it goes, we got to Croke Park with the majority of that team to compete in 3 finals two senior football and one intermediate hurling. As a GAA club we’ve no issues, we facilitate scor ladies and football and hurling. If we solely concentrated on one sport who knows how well we’d have done with that group of players.

As for your achievements as a club well done, but I’d look at the likes of S’niel as an inspiration and a model of the GAA ethos, not all about winning. Hope you have a good season
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« Reply #38063 on: August 11, 2018, 07:17:58 AM »
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

There was a team but that’s how it goes, we got to Croke Park with the majority of that team to compete in 3 finals two senior football and one intermediate hurling. As a GAA club we’ve no issues, we facilitate scor ladies and football and hurling. If we solely concentrated on one sport who knows how well we’d have done with that group of players.

As for your achievements as a club well done, but I’d look at the likes of S’niel as an inspiration and a model of the GAA ethos, not all about winning. Hope you have a good season

Nobody would ever have heard of Slaughtneil or known anything about them if they hadn't won things...

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« Reply #38064 on: August 11, 2018, 08:47:32 AM »
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

There was a team but that’s how it goes, we got to Croke Park with the majority of that team to compete in 3 finals two senior football and one intermediate hurling. As a GAA club we’ve no issues, we facilitate scor ladies and football and hurling. If we solely concentrated on one sport who knows how well we’d have done with that group of players.

As for your achievements as a club well done, but I’d look at the likes of S’niel as an inspiration and a model of the GAA ethos, not all about winning. Hope you have a good season

Nobody would ever have heard of Slaughtneil or known anything about them if they hadn't won things...

Nobody? I’d know most clubs in Ulster and beyond, played against more teams who haven’t won things than who have.. if it’s the silverware you’re after then you’re missing the point..
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« Reply #38065 on: August 12, 2018, 02:28:04 PM »
Was never a time that I was at the club playing that we didnt want to be in the top divisons, I played on that team from the age of 16 through to 40 (odds), was never a moment that I can recall that we didn't try and win Div 2.. I simply wouldnt allow it nor hear any talk of it, we've winners all over that particular team, not in their DNA to lose a game on purpose.. I even joked with the player the other day that I'd need to get the hurl out again and get ready for the reserve league next season!

I get taking our eye off the ball but to be fair to the lads that are looking after the hurling side of things its not been down to a lack of effort on their behalf or the great support we have from parents.. we as a club just havent performed lately to a level in all codes at all levels and we need to address that.. I'm sure its something that the club is very much aware of..

For us, and I'm sure Rossa and the Johnnies are proud of, is having a team that is competing in both codes at the top table and pushing for titles at either code, think we were the last Belfast team to be at a final in both codes in the same year, lacking ambition isnt a problem... Getting the right balance? well we can't do it all..

I could lambast Cushendalls poor showing at under 21 and say you have taken the eye off the ball there but I know, eventually you'll get it right

We do alright as far as senior championships go MR2. In fact since we won our first in 81 we've won more than anyone else. It's nice to win a minor or an under 21 championship but it's a bonus. Bring 1 or 2 players through each year for senior is what you need to do. If you are honest MR2 there was a senior hurling championship in St. Galls over the last 10 years for sure. We robbed you over in Loughgiel a few years ago with an injury time goal in a semi final. Think it was the same year you beat Dunloy after a replay.

There was a team but that’s how it goes, we got to Croke Park with the majority of that team to compete in 3 finals two senior football and one intermediate hurling. As a GAA club we’ve no issues, we facilitate scor ladies and football and hurling. If we solely concentrated on one sport who knows how well we’d have done with that group of players.

As for your achievements as a club well done, but I’d look at the likes of S’niel as an inspiration and a model of the GAA ethos, not all about winning. Hope you have a good season

Nobody would ever have heard of Slaughtneil or known anything about them if they hadn't won things...

Nobody? I’d know most clubs in Ulster and beyond, played against more teams who haven’t won things than who have.. if it’s the silverware you’re after then you’re missing the point..

Isn't this competitive sport? Nobody leaves after getting beat in the championship and says "Never worry, theres a great crowd at the irish dancing in the club on a tuesday evening."

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« Reply #38066 on: August 12, 2018, 06:25:37 PM »
Johnnies winning easy, as expected.


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« Reply #38067 on: August 12, 2018, 06:51:39 PM »
That's Rossa down I'd say. Them and Ballygalget on 6, Ballycran on 8. Even if Rossa beat Ballycran in the final game they have a much worse scoring difference. We gave them an absolute stuffing today. Jim Close on as a sub for them. Some change from beating Dunloy in the first match of the season. What went wrong?

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« Reply #38068 on: August 12, 2018, 07:07:15 PM »
That's Rossa down I'd say. Them and Ballygalget on 6, Ballycran on 8. Even if Rossa beat Ballycran in the final game they have a much worse scoring difference. We gave them an absolute stuffing today. Jim Close on as a sub for them. Some change from beating Dunloy in the first match of the season. What went wrong?
Mickey Armstrong & Cricky McGuinness out injured.
Deaglan Murphy, James Connolly, Gerard Walsh (and someone else who I can’t think of) hurling in America this summer.
We lose those players we’re fcuked. Sunk in both codes has been accepted for a few weeks now.
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« Reply #38069 on: August 12, 2018, 07:11:55 PM »
That's Rossa down I'd say. Them and Ballygalget on 6, Ballycran on 8. Even if Rossa beat Ballycran in the final game they have a much worse scoring difference. We gave them an absolute stuffing today. Jim Close on as a sub for them. Some change from beating Dunloy in the first match of the season. What went wrong?
Mickey Armstrong & Crick’s McGuinness our injured.
Deaglan Murphy, James Connolly, Gerard Walsh (and someone else who I can’t think of) hurling in America this summer.
We lose those players we’re flukes. Sunk in both codes has been accepted for a few weeks now.

Not easy HS. Are they likely to be back for championship?