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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33601 on: April 02, 2016, 12:26:03 PM »
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33602 on: April 02, 2016, 12:35:32 PM »
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33603 on: April 02, 2016, 12:38:32 PM »
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.
How sure can you be? Have you seen a shred of evidence? We don't even have a name, after all this time? When the story first broke, it seemed to be the management blowing the whistle on it.
I spoke to people close to the management since and they are saying it is nonsense.
It doesn't stack up.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2016, 12:41:27 PM by hardstation »


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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33604 on: April 02, 2016, 12:48:22 PM »
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.
How sure can you be? Have you seen a shred of evidence? We don't even have a name, after all this time? When the story first broke, it seemed to be the management blowing the whistle on it.
I spoke to people close to the management since and they are saying it is nonsense.
It doesn't stack up.

I'm sure a small number of people on the squad backed London to beat Antrim.
Not with any huge cash - and not sufficient to call it match fixing.
But I'm as sure as I can be that it happened.
Equally I've made it known how I think this matter should proceed (or not proceed).

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33605 on: April 02, 2016, 01:17:15 PM »
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.
How sure can you be? Have you seen a shred of evidence? We don't even have a name, after all this time? When the story first broke, it seemed to be the management blowing the whistle on it.
I spoke to people close to the management since and they are saying it is nonsense.
It doesn't stack up.

Well if the management started off whistle blowing and then it spiralled out of control instead of strengthening their position it left them out in the wind.

Now it seems to be a position where no one wants to push it any further PJ is gone and a new manager will have to pick up the pieces. So looks like the way forward will be to keep it in house and as quiet as possible.

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33606 on: April 02, 2016, 01:49:19 PM »
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.
How sure can you be? Have you seen a shred of evidence? We don't even have a name, after all this time? When the story first broke, it seemed to be the management blowing the whistle on it.
I spoke to people close to the management since and they are saying it is nonsense.
It doesn't stack up.

Well if the management started off whistle blowing and then it spiralled out of control instead of strengthening their position it left them out in the wind.

Now it seems to be a position where no one wants to push it any further PJ is gone and a new manager will have to pick up the pieces. So looks like the way forward will be to keep it in house and as quiet as possible.

Like I said at the onset - there was never going to be anything different.

So.
Anyone any inkling as to who's next to drink from the poisoned chalice?

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33607 on: April 02, 2016, 01:52:40 PM »
Great piece by John Martin. I was thinking that there must be some substance to the "rumours" but now Im not so sure. May be someone making a mountain out of a molehill.

To be very honest I saw the game as a real banana skin for Antrim based on their poor form going into the game. I saw the odds of 1/4 Antrim v 3/1 London and knew those odds were wrong. I was tempted to put London into a small accumulator at such a generous price. Anyone seeing 3/1 about what should have been a 5/4 chance would have seen value.

Now if a player saw that, and had London in a 10 treble, which ended up winning him 100, and showed it to a few people after the match, would this constitute a breach of loyalty, or translate to a more serious offence of "non trier". I dont think so. Everything is relative and by the looks of this this entire story may have been blown out of all proportion. But then again Im only assuming...because I dont know anything more than that!

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33608 on: April 02, 2016, 02:06:28 PM »
http://gaeliclife.com/2016/04/john-martin-the-problems-with-alleged-match-fixing/

As one would expect. This is probably another story generated by a keyboard warrior. People need to get a grip of themselves and stop this character assassination of amateur players. So called supporters are setting hurling back decades with this type of nonsense. Shame on them.

I think the story started with people betting against themselves - that's what set hurling back.
How sure can you be? Have you seen a shred of evidence? We don't even have a name, after all this time? When the story first broke, it seemed to be the management blowing the whistle on it.
I spoke to people close to the management since and they are saying it is nonsense.
It doesn't stack up.

Has there not been a few of the panel walked away saying that they won't play unless it's sorted or is that a rumour to?

Maybe I'm over reacting to it or being a keyboard warrior.

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33609 on: April 02, 2016, 02:09:50 PM »
Some players have walked because of the betting, until it's sorted. They know it happened.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33610 on: April 02, 2016, 02:26:16 PM »
Some players have walked because of the betting, until it's sorted. They know it happened.


And do you have proof of this? Clearly that's what we need here as any negative comments don't seems to go down well!

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33611 on: April 02, 2016, 02:50:50 PM »
I read the article. Good read.  And yes maybe there wasn't hundreds of thousands made.  But there was players on the Antrim panel and starting team backed London.  This isn't being a keyboard warrior or starting rumors.its a fact, when players openly tell you it happened. That's good enough for me.  Hopefully whoever comes in can get the lads that want to be there and have pride in themselves and the jersey to knuckle down and win a Christy ring. 
1983 & 2012 Antrim Ulster and All Ireland Champions.

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33612 on: April 02, 2016, 03:02:49 PM »
Lads to clear a few things up -

The cushendall money story is true

The county hurlers betting against their own team is true

PJ jumping before being pushed is true

The south Antrim game that was abandoned was to be replayed at St galls pitch but they declined that offer and were hence threw out of the competition. St. John's went on to play in the south Antrim final which was to manus bewilderment refereed by a North Antrim referee.

We can brush the whole lot under the carpet or make sure it doesn't happen again!! Ivan be sure if it were certain clubs time wouldn't be wasted in dealing with it.

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33613 on: April 02, 2016, 03:07:57 PM »
Lads to clear a few things up -

The cushendall money story is true

The county hurlers betting against their own team is true

PJ jumping before being pushed is true

The south Antrim game that was abandoned was to be replayed at St galls pitch but they declined that offer and were hence threw out of the competition. St. John's went on to play in the south Antrim final which was to manus bewilderment refereed by a North Antrim referee.

We can brush the whole lot under the carpet or make sure it doesn't happen again!! Ivan be sure if it were certain clubs time wouldn't be wasted in dealing with it.

Any Good news

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #33614 on: April 02, 2016, 03:46:40 PM »
Lads to clear a few things up -

The cushendall money story is true

The county hurlers betting against their own team is true

PJ jumping before being pushed is true

The south Antrim game that was abandoned was to be replayed at St galls pitch but they declined that offer and were hence threw out of the competition. St. John's went on to play in the south Antrim final which was to manus bewilderment refereed by a North Antrim referee.

We can brush the whole lot under the carpet or make sure it doesn't happen again!! Ivan be sure if it were certain clubs time wouldn't be wasted in dealing with it.

Very little to disagree with there.
Except for an abandoned game being quickly re-arranged as opposed to one or both put out of the competition.
Very convenient.