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How far can Celtic go now in Europe?

Champions League Final
45 (30.6%)
Champions League Semi Final
1 (0.7%)
Champions League Quarter Finals
1 (0.7%)
Last 16
10 (6.8%)
Third in the group and Europa League
38 (25.9%)
Bottom of the group
52 (35.4%)

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14535 on: August 14, 2019, 09:03:41 PM »
The reality is that this latest failure is a joint shambolic effort between The Board and Lennon.  Iíd love to know what their strategy/ ambition is.

Lennon should never have been reappointed but leaving that aside, where has the 10ís of millions that has been generated by the sale of the likes of Tierney, VvD (plus share of sell on to Liverpool by Southampton), Dembele, Armstrong etc actually gone? We must be one of the few teams on the planet with cash on the balance sheet and no debt! As a commercial enterprise/ listed entity itís embarrassing the return they are generating from the fan base and cash reserves they have.

I appreciate they are in a difficult position on one level due to the continual demise of the Scottish league but I think they should be investing much more in the team and the management such that they absolutely streak home domestically (margins for error reducing all the time) and more importantly securing champions league football each year. I donít expect them to qualify out of group stages but with the financial resources at hand they should get there.

FFS Sevco are now competing with them from a financial position that is close to the point of administration
I don't really mind missing the CL as I dont think they would be competitive there anyway. Picking up the money, finishing 3rd in the group and dropping in the EL would have been ideal but thats gone now.

The board knew for months that Rodgers wouldn't last the season but they didn't prepare. Lennon, to his credit stepped up and got the treble over the line. Having done that they had to give him the job and now the chickens are coming home to roost. He spent 10 million on 2 players (his players) and didnt play them yesterday. We can't blame the board for that. We now expect the board to give him more money. How do we know he wont squander another 10m. He's out of his depth and my preference would be to release him right now before its too late. Harsh I know but he is out of his depth and that's not going to change.

The tribute act are being propped up by loans. That can't go on forever but they smell blood now and that will be enough to keep the money flowing for another while

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14536 on: August 15, 2019, 09:31:01 AM »
A massive question remains - how much influence did / does Lennon have over signings?

If he had nothing to do with a 10m CH and a 3m LB being bought and just doesn't rate them to the extent he felt he needed to play our best CM at LB to secure CL passage, then it was a ballsy move to drop both but (almost) understandable.

If he was a key sign off in thier recruitment then it's unfathomable how both didn't start (other than injury)

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14537 on: August 15, 2019, 02:19:35 PM »
A massive question remains - how much influence did / does Lennon have over signings?

If he had nothing to do with a 10m CH and a 3m LB being bought and just doesn't rate them to the extent he felt he needed to play our best CM at LB to secure CL passage, then it was a ballsy move to drop both but (almost) understandable.

If he was a key sign off in thier recruitment then it's unfathomable how both didn't start (other than injury)

Was going to post something similar...think the posters on here have to get real and see who really is calling the shots at CP. Lennon no doubt had a mare the other night and no one can defend that but there's more to this than meets the eye...Is he not playing Lawell's players/signings? Does he really not know what he's doing? Rogers didn't know about some of the signings if you remember back...

I dunno myself TBH but what i do know is Tue night was unacceptable, we are not a big club in Europe anymore but we are still miles ahead of the teams that are beating us every year to qualification in both revenue and club size/fan base...So WTF
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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14538 on: August 15, 2019, 10:46:35 PM »
Signings or signing policy had little to do with that defeat. A current Celtic team should beat Cluj in the 2nd leg at home 99/100. After a decent start to the season, Lennon threw it all away last night.

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14539 on: August 16, 2019, 08:58:48 AM »
Scott Bain now ruled out for 2 months - He isnt a goalkeeper I rate very highly anyway. Craig Gordon is crocked.

Could Frazier Forster return?

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14540 on: August 17, 2019, 09:00:09 AM »
Scott Bain now ruled out for 2 months - He isnt a goalkeeper I rate very highly anyway. Craig Gordon is crocked.

Could Frazier Forster return?

Celtic have C McGregor they could throw him into nets ffs.

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14541 on: August 17, 2019, 02:59:58 PM »
Scott Bain now ruled out for 2 months - He isnt a goalkeeper I rate very highly anyway. Craig Gordon is crocked.

Could Frazier Forster return?

Celtic have C McGregor they could throw him into nets ffs.

Lennon could do nets himself for all the difference it would make.

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14542 on: August 17, 2019, 04:12:43 PM »
Is the Dunfermline game on any streams?

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14543 on: August 17, 2019, 04:37:15 PM »
Is the Dunfermline game on any streams?
Celtic Tv down at the minute.

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14544 on: August 17, 2019, 05:08:15 PM »
Ex celt Teemu Pukki has adapted  well to the epl with Norwich. I watched bits of him post Celtic with Finland and his club and thought he looked very good, pity he didnít fully adjust to Celtic and the spl.

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14545 on: August 17, 2019, 07:45:24 PM »
Tougher than should have been today.

17th April 2016 the last time Celtic lost a Domestic Cup game!

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14546 on: August 19, 2019, 10:47:47 PM »
Been a bad week for the hoops, have been really dejected. I know people are now saying we are not a CL club anymore but the frustrating thing is the teams that keep knocking us out are smaller clubs with smaller budgets and half the stadium so really there is no excuse. NL has certainly dented his popularity with the fans, quite a few didn't want him in the first place so now he's less on his side.
The Board have known about our problems for quite some time and they haven't been addressed, no matter who is in charge or who writes the cheques it's not good enough that we haven't replaced the vital players that have moved on. The depression levels moved on to the Dunfermline game at the weekend passed and it was pure dung too, there is a really big two weeks coming up which will show us where we're really at. Will we make into group stages of Europa League and will we survive Castle Greyskull (actually think we'll be beaten easily there), for the first time in a long long time i'm worried that this season could be a disaster unless we turn things around.

If we have a good two weeks and get the positive results then things will look to be on target but another few bad results and this could be the end of our dominance of Scottish football for a while...how the hell has it came to this when we had the chance to bury them once and for all but tried to do everything on the cheap as usual. I know we have to balance the books too but we sure have f**ked it up
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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14547 on: August 20, 2019, 12:54:19 AM »
Been a bad week for the hoops, have been really dejected. I know people are now saying we are not a CL club anymore but the frustrating thing is the teams that keep knocking us out are smaller clubs with smaller budgets and half the stadium so really there is no excuse. NL has certainly dented his popularity with the fans, quite a few didn't want him in the first place so now he's less on his side.
The Board have known about our problems for quite some time and they haven't been addressed, no matter who is in charge or who writes the cheques it's not good enough that we haven't replaced the vital players that have moved on. The depression levels moved on to the Dunfermline game at the weekend passed and it was pure dung too, there is a really big two weeks coming up which will show us where we're really at. Will we make into group stages of Europa League and will we survive Castle Greyskull (actually think we'll be beaten easily there), for the first time in a long long time i'm worried that this season could be a disaster unless we turn things around.

If we have a good two weeks and get the positive results then things will look to be on target but another few bad results and this could be the end of our dominance of Scottish football for a while...how the hell has it came to this when we had the chance to bury them once and for all but tried to do everything on the cheap as usual. I know we have to balance the books too but we sure have f**ked it up
Blaming the board for the abject defeat by Cluj at Celtic Park??   Of course they appointed Lennon and now everybody has to take the consequences, but it is inescapable that Lennon had a squad that should beat Cluj 99/100. He fcked up the challenge that faced Celtic and refuses to take responsibility. He has a lot of ground to make up in the EL, yet he has a squad good enough to get through a group to the knock out stage, the onus is on him to take Celtic that far.


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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14548 on: August 20, 2019, 10:46:57 AM »
Celtic got an absolute packet for Rodgers too when he left nevermind getting him off the wage bill given he would almost certainly have been the highest earner at Celtic.

The wage bill has been significantly reduced. The board knew from last January and beyond what areas needed addressing and they sleep walked into that disaster.

We are paying for years of plugging gaps with loan signings. The likes of Roberts, Guidetti, Denayer, Benkovic, Weah etc just leave us back at square one the following season.

Linked with a loan move for Jordan Ibe this morning. f**k that, there is plenty of money there to spend and Celtic need to be using it.

Lennon quite clearly is out of his depth, sacked by Bolton and Hibs and suddenly walks into the Celtic job because he's a cheap yes man to the board. It's time Lawwell had the full wrath of the fans. It needs to get louder against him and more relentless.

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Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Reply #14549 on: August 20, 2019, 12:03:16 PM »
Celtic got an absolute packet for Rodgers too when he left nevermind getting him off the wage bill given he would almost certainly have been the highest earner at Celtic.

The wage bill has been significantly reduced. The board knew from last January and beyond what areas needed addressing and they sleep walked into that disaster.

We are paying for years of plugging gaps with loan signings. The likes of Roberts, Guidetti, Denayer, Benkovic, Weah etc just leave us back at square one the following season.

Linked with a loan move for Jordan Ibe this morning. f**k that, there is plenty of money there to spend and Celtic need to be using it.

Lennon quite clearly is out of his depth, sacked by Bolton and Hibs and suddenly walks into the Celtic job because he's a cheap yes man to the board. It's time Lawwell had the full wrath of the fans. It needs to get louder against him and more relentless.
That Lennon is out of his depth is open to debate. I would be concerned at the manner of his departure from His though. What is clear though is that Celtic's performance under Rogers had become ragged and inconsistent Neil Lennon has continued that trend. Perhaps more to do with the lack of investment in the squad which, like Lennon's appointment is down to the board.